2020 GLE 450 issues list
#1
2020 GLE 450 issues list
Hi everyone! I have been busy taking care of my aging mother and disabled brother but as I'm doing that I drive my new GLE quite a bit. Current mileage: 5564.
I probably won't remember my entire list for this post, but just want to try because I'd love to learn if anyone can save me a little time (don't have much of it as I'm always driving for mom/brother) if you know of solutions/why/what MBUSA is saying about these quirks:
- Cruise control: Will randomly lose power and just stop allowing CC to work. I have to manually turn it off (while not working) then back on and it often still does not operate correctly until I'm past the trouble spot. For instance, in Houston there is a stretch of 99/Grand Pkwy between 249 and 45 (on way to airport which I do 2X every other week) where it completely powers off (while still engaged and saying it's on) and won't really work again until close to 45. I can't determine any trigger except the location (and maybe certain curves in highway? - I hope not!) These glitches are unrelated to speed limit signs as the ones below are.
- Speed limit assist: Does not always work right. On Harris County toll road to airport, there are no speed limit signs when I get on and for quite some time. Parts of that road it thinks SL is 75 and others it thinks it's 35. Also, often misreads or calculates SL of feeder road instead of highway I am on. Honestly, would be nice if there was an easy/quick way to report incorrect limit readings because I've noticed they can't all be sign triggered, some must be GPS triggered. Not gonna lie, when CC and SL aren't working right, it can be downright scary/dangerous. It's often a sudden switch and brakes suddenly slow car down unexpectedly. I don't appreciate it and have learned to be ready to suddenly switch CC off when this happens to avoid a dangerous situation. Should not have to do this.
- Driver Assist Safety cameras: On the upside, the driver assist safety cameras did save me from a potential accident. Cars in front slammed brakes at highway merger right as I was doing a sideview headcheck for merging cars to my right. Beeping went crazy and car braked to a stop itself. In the split second after the beeping started, I would have hit by time I saw, but car stopped for me so I just continued with hard braking but it would have done it all for me I think. That's absolutely wonderful!
- That pesky key!!!! WHY oh WHY can't they fix the auto unlock yet? It worked fine in older models. Now I will have hands full and it only works about 30% of the time. I really just want it to work! Getting stalled outside car to open door in rain is not what I paid for. Worse: Rain and wrangling 2 dogs in/out of car at vet. P.S. If it has gate kick-to-open option (unsure), it has never worked. I tried!
- GPS directions: UGH! Is better with typed addresses but when I am already driving and want to find a Chevron, can't even make that simple/easy. Also misses locations (newer ones) a lot. I'd say at least 2 year delay. Once set to destination, works great. Do wish it gave several route options w/ time like Google Maps does so brilliantly. Getting destination via voice or even typing names instead of addresses - huge PITA. Needs a major fix. In this day and age, the tech should be easier to update and keep up with. Our phones do. No excuse. ALSO-I'd love a quick and easy way to drop a destination from my phone to my car nav. I do love the augmented reality nav (though sometimes it places the aug too late for me to get over in time with traffic).
- Audio glitch: My audio just stopped working randomly a week or two ago while driving and nothing I could figure out fixed it. No sound whatsoever including radio and satellite. Turned off/on and didn't work. Only came back after leaving car off overnight. Next morning was going to call dealer but it was back on. I had tried off, let it sit 10 min, turn on again several times day before. Strange gremlins.
- "Instrument cluster" dash menu: Still haven't figured out (no time really!) but seems the dash menu changes what options are available even on a single theme. For instance, I'll be looking for one set of options in center "instrument cluster" screen and it's in my regular theme and drive mode but options in center are completely different/new to me. It randomly went back to the one I'm familiar with but when it happens again, I'll have no clue what's happening. LOL.
- EQ Boost: Can this be disabled permanently/long term? Or at least the engine shut off while stopped? Currently, I have to manually disable it every time I get in the car and it engages. I've found I don't care for it much.
-Random glitches: Occasionally my new GLE randomly glitches and then I never see that particular glitch again. I kinda expected that. Price of being the guinea pig.
There's more, but that's all I can remember at the moment. Any tips/easy fixes/shared frustrations? I really can't take it 45 min - 1 hour away to dealer. Most days I travel the other direction to take care of my aging mom then have to get home to care for my boys. Plus, can the dealer fix any of this? I'm guessing not.
I still LOVE the car and the amazing pros outweigh the cons. BUT, I'm also glad I leased it instead of buying. Hopefully they improve it soon with software updates as well as new models. The S-550 is growing on me as I move closer to retirement, more passive income, and empty nest. Thanks for taking the time!
I probably won't remember my entire list for this post, but just want to try because I'd love to learn if anyone can save me a little time (don't have much of it as I'm always driving for mom/brother) if you know of solutions/why/what MBUSA is saying about these quirks:
- Cruise control: Will randomly lose power and just stop allowing CC to work. I have to manually turn it off (while not working) then back on and it often still does not operate correctly until I'm past the trouble spot. For instance, in Houston there is a stretch of 99/Grand Pkwy between 249 and 45 (on way to airport which I do 2X every other week) where it completely powers off (while still engaged and saying it's on) and won't really work again until close to 45. I can't determine any trigger except the location (and maybe certain curves in highway? - I hope not!) These glitches are unrelated to speed limit signs as the ones below are.
- Speed limit assist: Does not always work right. On Harris County toll road to airport, there are no speed limit signs when I get on and for quite some time. Parts of that road it thinks SL is 75 and others it thinks it's 35. Also, often misreads or calculates SL of feeder road instead of highway I am on. Honestly, would be nice if there was an easy/quick way to report incorrect limit readings because I've noticed they can't all be sign triggered, some must be GPS triggered. Not gonna lie, when CC and SL aren't working right, it can be downright scary/dangerous. It's often a sudden switch and brakes suddenly slow car down unexpectedly. I don't appreciate it and have learned to be ready to suddenly switch CC off when this happens to avoid a dangerous situation. Should not have to do this.
- Driver Assist Safety cameras: On the upside, the driver assist safety cameras did save me from a potential accident. Cars in front slammed brakes at highway merger right as I was doing a sideview headcheck for merging cars to my right. Beeping went crazy and car braked to a stop itself. In the split second after the beeping started, I would have hit by time I saw, but car stopped for me so I just continued with hard braking but it would have done it all for me I think. That's absolutely wonderful!
- That pesky key!!!! WHY oh WHY can't they fix the auto unlock yet? It worked fine in older models. Now I will have hands full and it only works about 30% of the time. I really just want it to work! Getting stalled outside car to open door in rain is not what I paid for. Worse: Rain and wrangling 2 dogs in/out of car at vet. P.S. If it has gate kick-to-open option (unsure), it has never worked. I tried!
- GPS directions: UGH! Is better with typed addresses but when I am already driving and want to find a Chevron, can't even make that simple/easy. Also misses locations (newer ones) a lot. I'd say at least 2 year delay. Once set to destination, works great. Do wish it gave several route options w/ time like Google Maps does so brilliantly. Getting destination via voice or even typing names instead of addresses - huge PITA. Needs a major fix. In this day and age, the tech should be easier to update and keep up with. Our phones do. No excuse. ALSO-I'd love a quick and easy way to drop a destination from my phone to my car nav. I do love the augmented reality nav (though sometimes it places the aug too late for me to get over in time with traffic).
- Audio glitch: My audio just stopped working randomly a week or two ago while driving and nothing I could figure out fixed it. No sound whatsoever including radio and satellite. Turned off/on and didn't work. Only came back after leaving car off overnight. Next morning was going to call dealer but it was back on. I had tried off, let it sit 10 min, turn on again several times day before. Strange gremlins.
- "Instrument cluster" dash menu: Still haven't figured out (no time really!) but seems the dash menu changes what options are available even on a single theme. For instance, I'll be looking for one set of options in center "instrument cluster" screen and it's in my regular theme and drive mode but options in center are completely different/new to me. It randomly went back to the one I'm familiar with but when it happens again, I'll have no clue what's happening. LOL.
- EQ Boost: Can this be disabled permanently/long term? Or at least the engine shut off while stopped? Currently, I have to manually disable it every time I get in the car and it engages. I've found I don't care for it much.
-Random glitches: Occasionally my new GLE randomly glitches and then I never see that particular glitch again. I kinda expected that. Price of being the guinea pig.
There's more, but that's all I can remember at the moment. Any tips/easy fixes/shared frustrations? I really can't take it 45 min - 1 hour away to dealer. Most days I travel the other direction to take care of my aging mom then have to get home to care for my boys. Plus, can the dealer fix any of this? I'm guessing not.
I still LOVE the car and the amazing pros outweigh the cons. BUT, I'm also glad I leased it instead of buying. Hopefully they improve it soon with software updates as well as new models. The S-550 is growing on me as I move closer to retirement, more passive income, and empty nest. Thanks for taking the time!
Last edited by tjobi; 01-14-2020 at 09:40 AM.
#2
My GLE has been in the shop since December 19th, soon to be 1 month.
I have a 20 or so bullet point list of items they needed to look at. I will provide a scan of my sheet, and their solutions to my issues. One month of being in a GLC300 is getting annoying. I want my bigger and better car back.
I have a 20 or so bullet point list of items they needed to look at. I will provide a scan of my sheet, and their solutions to my issues. One month of being in a GLC300 is getting annoying. I want my bigger and better car back.
#3
My GLE has been in the shop since December 19th, soon to be 1 month.
I have a 20 or so bullet point list of items they needed to look at. I will provide a scan of my sheet, and their solutions to my issues. One month of being in a GLC300 is getting annoying. I want my bigger and better car back.
I have a 20 or so bullet point list of items they needed to look at. I will provide a scan of my sheet, and their solutions to my issues. One month of being in a GLC300 is getting annoying. I want my bigger and better car back.
#4
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Wow, first the problems opening the vehicle with the FOB, then Cooper tires and then this... Boy I'm having second thoughts about ordering. I'm concerned.
The FOB problem seems like it should have been addressed as a top priority
The FOB problem seems like it should have been addressed as a top priority
#5
There are a lot of owners on here who have no issues, myself included. Regarding the fob issue it happens on mine now and then, I just wiggle the key in my pocket and it works, no big issue. It is caused by the key going to sleep to prevent theft and not re=awakening.
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antigeek (01-18-2020)
#6
For the item you labeled "EQ Boost", I think you may actually mean the Start/Stop feature, right? (It turns your engine off at stop lights.)
My dealer told me that if you toggle the feature OFF it will stay off unless you choose the Eco drive mode. Once you go to Eco (or if you just leave it in Eco) the feature will turn back on the next time you start the engine.
My dealer told me that if you toggle the feature OFF it will stay off unless you choose the Eco drive mode. Once you go to Eco (or if you just leave it in Eco) the feature will turn back on the next time you start the engine.
#7
I second that. Thus far I haven't run into any issues (beyond the 8 months it took me to actually acquire the vehicle). I shared Galret's concern seeing some of the other issues here, but as Philamg noted, the vast majority of owners are happy. Like anything else, people are far more likely to seek out a forum for help with issues than they are to praise a company or vehicle.
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- GPS directions: UGH! Is better with typed addresses but when I am already driving and want to find a Chevron, can't even make that simple/easy. Also misses locations (newer ones) a lot. I'd say at least 2 year delay. Once set to destination, works great. Do wish it gave several route options w/ time like Google Maps does so brilliantly. Getting destination via voice or even typing names instead of addresses - huge PITA. Needs a major fix. In this day and age, the tech should be easier to update and keep up with. Our phones do. No excuse. ALSO-I'd love a quick and easy way to drop a destination from my phone to my car nav. I do love the augmented reality nav (though sometimes it places the aug too late for me to get over in time with traffic).
Also, you can always hit the "me" button on your overhead console and ask Mercedes to send you the location of something you are looking for, out to your Nav system, I use that function a lot.
#9
For the item you labeled "EQ Boost", I think you may actually mean the Start/Stop feature, right? (It turns your engine off at stop lights.)
My dealer told me that if you toggle the feature OFF it will stay off unless you choose the Eco drive mode. Once you go to Eco (or if you just leave it in Eco) the feature will turn back on the next time you start the engine.
My dealer told me that if you toggle the feature OFF it will stay off unless you choose the Eco drive mode. Once you go to Eco (or if you just leave it in Eco) the feature will turn back on the next time you start the engine.
#10
I second that. Thus far I haven't run into any issues (beyond the 8 months it took me to actually acquire the vehicle). I shared Galret's concern seeing some of the other issues here, but as Philamg noted, the vast majority of owners are happy. Like anything else, people are far more likely to seek out a forum for help with issues than they are to praise a company or vehicle.
Have you updated your maps? If you allowed an auto update, you still need to do a manual update to get the latest audio files that go along with it.
Also, you can always hit the "me" button on your overhead console and ask Mercedes to send you the location of something you are looking for, out to your Nav system, I use that function a lot.
Also, you can always hit the "me" button on your overhead console and ask Mercedes to send you the location of something you are looking for, out to your Nav system, I use that function a lot.
The navigation, however, is not great. I wrote about that before, it is up to date but much behind, 2 years as someone said is a good estimate imo.
#11
I'll be able to verify this in a couple of weeks when my GLE 580 is delivered.
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galret (01-16-2020)
#12
For the item you labeled "EQ Boost", I think you may actually mean the Start/Stop feature, right? (It turns your engine off at stop lights.)
My dealer told me that if you toggle the feature OFF it will stay off unless you choose the Eco drive mode. Once you go to Eco (or if you just leave it in Eco) the feature will turn back on the next time you start the engine.
My dealer told me that if you toggle the feature OFF it will stay off unless you choose the Eco drive mode. Once you go to Eco (or if you just leave it in Eco) the feature will turn back on the next time you start the engine.
#13
Have you updated your maps? If you allowed an auto update, you still need to do a manual update to get the latest audio files that go along with it.
Also, you can always hit the "me" button on your overhead console and ask Mercedes to send you the location of something you are looking for, out to your Nav system, I use that function a lot.
Also, you can always hit the "me" button on your overhead console and ask Mercedes to send you the location of something you are looking for, out to your Nav system, I use that function a lot.
#14
Even with my long list, most of it is minor annoyance and a lot should be fixed with software patches. I still LOVE it and I'm at almost 6500 miles since Sept 2019 delivery. I drive it a lot these last couple of months!!! So glad I'm driving this if I'm going to be a road warrior. I did get a mouse in it the other day. But I got a humane trap and caught it in less than an hour, then released. No return visits so far. LOL. We had some cold days and it was a juvenile so probably just tried to get warm.
#15
New bug since last week: TuneIn screen would say "Reconnected to Online Services", but never actually activate. Turning the system off from Settings menu and turning it back on doesn't help. Only fix I found so far is to turn the car off and back on.
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Even with my long list, most of it is minor annoyance and a lot should be fixed with software patches. I still LOVE it and I'm at almost 6500 miles since Sept 2019 delivery. I drive it a lot these last couple of months!!! So glad I'm driving this if I'm going to be a road warrior. I did get a mouse in it the other day. But I got a humane trap and caught it in less than an hour, then released. No return visits so far. LOL. We had some cold days and it was a juvenile so probably just tried to get warm.
If you are uncomfortable doing this a trip to the dealer is the other option. My dealer did the battery disconnect for me the first time.
#17
Windshield Wipers
I just picked up my new 2020 GLE450 and absolutely love it. My only real pain is the pattern of the windshield wipers.
The rain sensing wipers in my prior 2017 GLC43 worked exactly as I expected, but the new GLE has a very specific pattern. When driving in the rain they will start (with the wipers set to the lowest setting on the stalk) slowly and allow the windshield to get completely saturated to the point you can barely see and then finally clear it. After about three minutes like this they all of a sudden go near max speed for exactly four full passes, pause for about three seconds and then four full swipes again and will continue to do this until you manually turn them off. They even continue in this manner if the rain stops... Am I the only one with this issue?
The rain sensing wipers in my prior 2017 GLC43 worked exactly as I expected, but the new GLE has a very specific pattern. When driving in the rain they will start (with the wipers set to the lowest setting on the stalk) slowly and allow the windshield to get completely saturated to the point you can barely see and then finally clear it. After about three minutes like this they all of a sudden go near max speed for exactly four full passes, pause for about three seconds and then four full swipes again and will continue to do this until you manually turn them off. They even continue in this manner if the rain stops... Am I the only one with this issue?
#18
I just picked up my new 2020 GLE450 and absolutely love it. My only real pain is the pattern of the windshield wipers.
The rain sensing wipers in my prior 2017 GLC43 worked exactly as I expected, but the new GLE has a very specific pattern. When driving in the rain they will start (with the wipers set to the lowest setting on the stalk) slowly and allow the windshield to get completely saturated to the point you can barely see and then finally clear it. After about three minutes like this they all of a sudden go near max speed for exactly four full passes, pause for about three seconds and then four full swipes again and will continue to do this until you manually turn them off. They even continue in this manner if the rain stops... Am I the only one with this issue?
The rain sensing wipers in my prior 2017 GLC43 worked exactly as I expected, but the new GLE has a very specific pattern. When driving in the rain they will start (with the wipers set to the lowest setting on the stalk) slowly and allow the windshield to get completely saturated to the point you can barely see and then finally clear it. After about three minutes like this they all of a sudden go near max speed for exactly four full passes, pause for about three seconds and then four full swipes again and will continue to do this until you manually turn them off. They even continue in this manner if the rain stops... Am I the only one with this issue?
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Yes, that's what I meant. It says something on the instrument cluster when it's powering up the battery though to do that and when that surges (while I'm driving 75 down the highway) it seems to cancel my cruise control. It's really weird. I lose speed fast and hard. The first few times it was dangerous but I've gotten used to it and anticipate it in the areas I know it's going to do it.
#20
Mine has the FOB issues, Distronic trying to stop on Toll roads where it thinks are booths but it is, and has been electronic collection for many years. Also this is to me a major flaw and I don;t know how to override settings to make it stop.At this location, 4813 Rowlett Rd Rowlett TX 75088 (Latitude 32.9036 and Longitude -96.5695), traveling in the south bound lanes, the vehicle will alarming slam on the brakes and attempt an emergency stop. I have been lucky that no one was behind me when this happens. This is the most dangerous and alarming issue I have had with this vehicle and is repeatable at this location.
I have had it read a 15 to 35 MPH on while on the highways and the limit is 70 or 75. In these situations, it just slows down gradually, and a tap on the gas will put it back up to speed. A few times I have had it adjust the max speed to those lower speeds but that is not as common as it reading a sign someplace and trying to adopt a slower speed.
I hope they get to work on this because these type of issues seem to affect all of the new model cars.
Last numbers of vin are 063441. I ordered in March 3 2019 and it arrived on June 6th, 2019
I have had it read a 15 to 35 MPH on while on the highways and the limit is 70 or 75. In these situations, it just slows down gradually, and a tap on the gas will put it back up to speed. A few times I have had it adjust the max speed to those lower speeds but that is not as common as it reading a sign someplace and trying to adopt a slower speed.
I hope they get to work on this because these type of issues seem to affect all of the new model cars.
Last numbers of vin are 063441. I ordered in March 3 2019 and it arrived on June 6th, 2019
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Mine has the FOB issues, Distronic trying to stop on Toll roads where it thinks are booths but it is, and has been electronic collection for many years. Also this is to me a major flaw and I don;t know how to override settings to make it stop.At this location, 4813 Rowlett Rd Rowlett TX 75088 (Latitude 32.9036 and Longitude -96.5695), traveling in the south bound lanes, the vehicle will alarming slam on the brakes and attempt an emergency stop. I have been lucky that no one was behind me when this happens. This is the most dangerous and alarming issue I have had with this vehicle and is repeatable at this location.
I have had it read a 15 to 35 MPH on while on the highways and the limit is 70 or 75. In these situations, it just slows down gradually, and a tap on the gas will put it back up to speed. A few times I have had it adjust the max speed to those lower speeds but that is not as common as it reading a sign someplace and trying to adopt a slower speed.
I hope they get to work on this because these type of issues seem to affect all of the new model cars.
Last numbers of vin are 063441. I ordered in March 3 2019 and it arrived on June 6th, 2019
I have had it read a 15 to 35 MPH on while on the highways and the limit is 70 or 75. In these situations, it just slows down gradually, and a tap on the gas will put it back up to speed. A few times I have had it adjust the max speed to those lower speeds but that is not as common as it reading a sign someplace and trying to adopt a slower speed.
I hope they get to work on this because these type of issues seem to affect all of the new model cars.
Last numbers of vin are 063441. I ordered in March 3 2019 and it arrived on June 6th, 2019
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That serial number is lower than mine and I took delivery in April. The Camera update was done in July and could help with signs. Mine is very accurate reading signs with a little trouble reading 80 as 60.
I don't have my car handy or would look for the Route based speed setting. If you haven't been in lately there may be a lot of updates....I think I had more than 5. Good luck.
I don't have my car handy or would look for the Route based speed setting. If you haven't been in lately there may be a lot of updates....I think I had more than 5. Good luck.
#25
Problem: Stuck in snow
Last Friday we had a fairly important snow storm.
I had the bright idea of parking on th estreet next to the office. The snow plows pushed some snow under the car.
At the end of the day, I cleared some snow around the wheels and edges of the car and got in. Pop in Drive and... Nothing.
The car would not move at all. The wheels would not even spin. The RPM stayed at 600 RPM.
I tried going into ECO mode, to slow down the engine, no difference.
Next was Off-Road mode. Raised the car, and managed to move an inch, back and forth.
Decidedly, this car just did not want to do anything. Even turning off ESP, I could barely make the wheel slip.
Solution: DSR
By using the DSR Downhill Speed Reduction feature, I was able to force the transmission to crawl out of the not so high snow. Complete waste of 40 minutes trying to get out of the parking space, even while having people help out to push the car. I never had this problem with the 2016 GLE350d.
I'm not impressed the electronics prevented me from moving the car in snow that wasn't even that hard to get out of.
Last Friday we had a fairly important snow storm.
I had the bright idea of parking on th estreet next to the office. The snow plows pushed some snow under the car.
At the end of the day, I cleared some snow around the wheels and edges of the car and got in. Pop in Drive and... Nothing.
The car would not move at all. The wheels would not even spin. The RPM stayed at 600 RPM.
I tried going into ECO mode, to slow down the engine, no difference.
Next was Off-Road mode. Raised the car, and managed to move an inch, back and forth.
Decidedly, this car just did not want to do anything. Even turning off ESP, I could barely make the wheel slip.
Solution: DSR
By using the DSR Downhill Speed Reduction feature, I was able to force the transmission to crawl out of the not so high snow. Complete waste of 40 minutes trying to get out of the parking space, even while having people help out to push the car. I never had this problem with the 2016 GLE350d.
I'm not impressed the electronics prevented me from moving the car in snow that wasn't even that hard to get out of.