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2021 GLE450 AMG package got a downgrade in the brake system. I am so disappointed in this brake system. Right now I am looking to replace them with AMG brakes.
I wonder which AMG brakes could fit into the 20 inch wheels?
Thx guys!
2021 GLE450 AMG package got a downgrade in the brake system. I am so disappointed in this brake system. Right now I am looking to replace them with AMG brakes.
I wonder which AMG brakes could fit into the 20 inch wheels?
Thx guys!
What don't you like? What is the downgrade?
They are all much the same size externally. Either GLE AMG set will fit 20' wheels or at least most of them. i had the AMG's on my 2020 450 with 20's and the perforated disc that's now the brake on the AMG GLE 53. The only difference now is that the disc's aren't perforated on the 2021AMG 450 unless something has changed recently. I have the lbrake upgrade on my 53 (same as the 63) and they seem to be the same size, work with 20's but are a 6 piston and seem to stop much better.
What don't you like? What is the downgrade?
They are all much the same size externally. Either GLE AMG set will fit 20' wheels or at least most of them. i had the AMG's on my 2020 450 with 20's and the perforated disc that's now the brake on the AMG GLE 53. The only difference now is that the disc's aren't perforated on the 2021AMG 450 unless something has changed recently. I have the lbrake upgrade on my 53 (same as the 63) and they seem to be the same size, work with 20's but are a 6 piston and seem to stop much better.
I believe the both the discs and the calipers are downgraded. I assume the pads and the master cylinders are downgraded too.
The brake downgrade from '20 to '21 wasn't just the 450, it was the 580 also. I think (hope) Ron.s is correct that the change is just dropping the perforations (related to cooling at the higher limits of brake demand). Caliper itself looks the same to me, but the caliper cover is different (which I hope is just cosmetic). Here's a side-by-side of a 2020 580 vs our 2021 580. Disc size and caliper design looks the same to my eyes, but if someone notices a difference please let us know. If the calipers are the same, and the rotor is the same size, we can always upgrade to the '20 rotors and pads at some point in the future. (I don't mean upgrading to the AMG 53's brake upgrade that Ron.s has, just the original style that the '20 580s and AMG 450s had).
By the way, my wife and I both noticed the brake pedal is a bit slow to engage, compared to her old Q7 and my Cayenne, but we haven't yet concluded that it lacks stopping power. Could just be calibrated for more of a "luxury" feel.
Last edited by TempeAndy; Feb 22, 2021 at 10:34 AM.
The brake downgrade from '20 to '21 wasn't just the 450, it was the 580 also. I think (hope) Ron.s is correct that the change is just dropping the perforations (related to cooling at the higher limits of brake demand). Caliper itself looks the same to me, but the caliper cover is different (which I hope is just cosmetic). Here's a side-by-side of a 2020 580 vs our 2021 580. Disc size and caliper design looks the same to my eyes, but if someone notices a difference please let us know. If the calipers are the same, and the rotor is the same size, we can always upgrade to the '20 rotors and pads at some point in the future. (I don't mean upgrading to the AMG 53's brake upgrade that Ron.s has, just the original style that the '20 580s and AMG 450s had).
By the way, my wife and I both noticed the brake pedal is a bit slow to engage, compared to her old Q7 and my Cayenne, but we haven't yet concluded that it lacks stopping power. Could just be calibrated for more of a "luxury" feel.
It seems the whole lineup gets a downgrade. I had a similar feeling about the brakes too. That’s one of the main reasons I would like to upgrade them to AMG brakes. Besides AMG brakes looks way better.
It seems the whole lineup gets a downgrade. I had a similar feeling about the brakes too. That’s one of the main reasons I would like to upgrade them to AMG brakes. Besides AMG brakes looks way better.
The 6-piston fixed caliper brakes Ron refers to are very nice, but also quite expensive. Not sure if they would take a brake booster upgrade as well.
That one for sure is awesome, and I wonder if it has a smaller version for 20 inch wheels
I have those brakes on my 2021 GLE 53 and am currently running winter wheels on 20's. There is adequate clearance even where the balance weights are located.
I think performance is much like Temp..says. My 2020 GLE brakes worked well but were more linear like the throttle. The Red brakes with 6 piston are more aggressive like our Audi. I doubt stopping distance is a lot different until you get the Red. They will stop faster and will work longer and better when 🔥 hot... Trailering or aggresive driving they would definitely shine. That's my subjective opinion...now looks are another subject.
It will be very expensive to upgrade like Greg said...$10k might be in play.
I have those brakes on my 2021 GLE 53 and am currently running winter wheels on 20's. There is adequate clearance even where the balance weights are located.
I think performance is much like Temp..says. My 2020 GLE brakes worked well but were more linear like the throttle. The Red brakes with 6 piston are more aggressive like our Audi. I doubt stopping distance is a lot different until you get the Red. They will stop faster and will work longer and better when 🔥 hot... Trailering or aggresive driving they would definitely shine. That's my subjective opinion...now looks are another subject.
It will be very expensive to upgrade like Greg said...$10k might be in play.
Thank you for the info! I will request a quote from the dealer, see if I could afford them.
I have those brakes on my 2021 GLE 53 and am currently running winter wheels on 20's. There is adequate clearance even where the balance weights are located.
I think performance is much like Temp..says. My 2020 GLE brakes worked well but were more linear like the throttle. The Red brakes with 6 piston are more aggressive like our Audi. I doubt stopping distance is a lot different until you get the Red. They will stop faster and will work longer and better when 🔥 hot... Trailering or aggresive driving they would definitely shine. That's my subjective opinion...now looks are another subject.
It will be very expensive to upgrade like Greg said...$10k might be in play.
I think $10k might be high, unless the brake booster needs to be replaced. The silver version is a $2,500 option on the GLE 53, but of course you are getting credit for the base brakes.
Curious on what the cost will be - front upgrade only or rear also? Please post your findings.
I doubt a dealer would be willing to do the conversion, but they could price out the parts if you get someone willing to do the research. I'm not sure the rears are any different in the AMG setup.
The rear are somewhat different in that they have red calipers and ventilated discs. Internals & pads might be the same. Replacing all 4 to match will be close to $10k, including labor, IMO. I hope I’m high but looking at Porsche & Audi replacement costs it wouldn’t surprise me. There might also be other parts to replace and then parts might not be available yet...
Curious on what the cost will be - front upgrade only or rear also? Please post your findings.
dealer told me they could only sell part to me. They won’t install them for me. Meanwhile they don’t know what other parts need to be replaced to support AMG brakes. Thus the price is unknown.
The rear are somewhat different in that they have red calipers and ventilated discs. Internals & pads might be the same. Replacing all 4 to match will be close to $10k, including labor, IMO. I hope I’m high but looking at Porsche & Audi replacement costs it wouldn’t surprise me. There might also be other parts to replace and then parts might not be available yet...
The problem is dealer won’t do the installation for me. And bodyshops in my area don’t have enough knowledge about the new gle to do a modification.
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