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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 01:54 AM
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Match audio upgrade for gle 450 coupe 2021?

It is match audio upgrade compatible for gle 450 coupe 2021?
I have the standard sound system.
someone know where is located the factory amp?

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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Uriel davalos
It is match audio upgrade compatible for gle 450 coupe 2021?
I have the standard sound system.
someone know where is located the factory amp?
I don't know about the "coupe", but I asked the Match rep about the 2021 GLE 450 and he replied that the 4" speakers "should" fit and that the two 200mm woofers would probably need to be popped out of their bracket and swapped into the brackets that came on the car, but as he said "doable".

He also mentioned, at least on the Burmester system that they made a lot of changes for 2021. He believed that the cable from the head unit to the amp in the trunk went from fiber optic to a coax cable. So far there is no "Most" adapter for it, but Nav-TV and MoBridge both state they are working on one and it should be out in weeks. The rep for Match also reps for Helix DSPs and amplifiers and stated that if you tap off the factory amplifier (to add on an aftermarket amp) that the Mercedes might not send a signal (mute) as it expects to see the factory speakers. He said that an installer that come across that issue was able to make it work by using some resistors and "loading" the amp.

I found a high end installer that also was concerned about those issues and when I said I contacted the rep, he even know his name before I mentioned his emails. My installer also says that there are some "speed dependent" issues that change the signal accordingly by how fast you are driving. I didn't understand it all, but it was also brought up by the MoBridge rep that also (soon to) makes an adapter.

Match and Helix are from the same German company, and the company that reps them in the USA also reps Blam speakers. I have an appointment on March 15 for my local shop to install (replace) all of the factory speakers with Blam, add a 12 channel Helix amplifer/DSP, and a Cerwin Vega subwoofer that fits (bolts) in the well of the spare tire. Not many shops were interested in working on this car as it might pose some challenges, but my installer is confident he can deal with what we know so far. I should know in about 2 weeks. ....but the factory system is too weak not to try.
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Old Jun 17, 2021 | 05:32 PM
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How did your install work out? I'm looking to upgrade my 21' GLS.
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Old Jun 17, 2021 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegas Benz
I don't know about the "coupe", but I asked the Match rep about the 2021 GLE 450 and he replied that the 4" speakers "should" fit and that the two 200mm woofers would probably need to be popped out of their bracket and swapped into the brackets that came on the car, but as he said "doable".

He also mentioned, at least on the Burmester system that they made a lot of changes for 2021. He believed that the cable from the head unit to the amp in the trunk went from fiber optic to a coax cable. So far there is no "Most" adapter for it, but Nav-TV and MoBridge both state they are working on one and it should be out in weeks. The rep for Match also reps for Helix DSPs and amplifiers and stated that if you tap off the factory amplifier (to add on an aftermarket amp) that the Mercedes might not send a signal (mute) as it expects to see the factory speakers. He said that an installer that come across that issue was able to make it work by using some resistors and "loading" the amp.

I found a high end installer that also was concerned about those issues and when I said I contacted the rep, he even know his name before I mentioned his emails. My installer also says that there are some "speed dependent" issues that change the signal accordingly by how fast you are driving. I didn't understand it all, but it was also brought up by the MoBridge rep that also (soon to) makes an adapter.

Match and Helix are from the same German company, and the company that reps them in the USA also reps Blam speakers. I have an appointment on March 15 for my local shop to install (replace) all of the factory speakers with Blam, add a 12 channel Helix amplifer/DSP, and a Cerwin Vega subwoofer that fits (bolts) in the well of the spare tire. Not many shops were interested in working on this car as it might pose some challenges, but my installer is confident he can deal with what we know so far. I should know in about 2 weeks. ....but the factory system is too weak not to try.
Lots of good info there.
All sounds good except the Cerwin Vega - muddy muddy muddy. Hope I'm wrong - how'd it turn out?
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Old Jun 17, 2021 | 06:50 PM
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Lots of good info there.
All sounds good except the Cerwin Vega - muddy muddy muddy. Hope I'm wrong - how'd it turn out?
I had the front speakers and the Cerwin Vega spare tire sub installed, but by the time the rest of the equipment came in I decided to not keep the GLE450 so I instructed the installer to remove the new speakers and put back the factory (base) Burmester ones. The GLE is nice, but not as comfortable as I hoped so I ordered a 2022 S-Class to replace it. For now I left in the sub because it will not be reused as it is not powerful or strong enough.

The Blam speakers in the front doors and bass speakers under the dash did sound MUCH better, and I did not have the new amp yet, so replacing all of the speakers with Blam and a good amp/DSP on my next system should sound great. I realize now that I will need a proper subwoofer and dedicated amp. I really didn't want a box in the back of the GLE (or the S-Class), but if you want the sound, you can't take shortcuts.

My new car is scheduled to be built 3rd decade of July. I look forward to restarting the project. I learned a lot from a few wrong choices and hope the new car sounds great when upgraded.
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Old Jun 17, 2021 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegas Benz
I had the front speakers and the Cerwin Vega spare tire sub installed, but by the time the rest of the equipment came in I decided to not keep the GLE450 so I instructed the installer to remove the new speakers and put back the factory (base) Burmester ones. The GLE is nice, but not as comfortable as I hoped so I ordered a 2022 S-Class to replace it. For now I left in the sub because it will not be reused as it is not powerful or strong enough.

The Blam speakers in the front doors and bass speakers under the dash did sound MUCH better, and I did not have the new amp yet, so replacing all of the speakers with Blam and a good amp/DSP on my next system should sound great. I realize now that I will need a proper subwoofer and dedicated amp. I really didn't want a box in the back of the GLE (or the S-Class), but if you want the sound, you can't take shortcuts.

My new car is scheduled to be built 3rd decade of July. I look forward to restarting the project. I learned a lot from a few wrong choices and hope the new car sounds great when upgraded.
Which products did you use from BLAM? I'm looking for the easiest way to improve my bass in my 21' GLS.
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Old Jun 17, 2021 | 07:24 PM
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Which products did you use from BLAM? I'm looking for the easiest way to improve my bass in my 21' GLS.
Center Sur. $89.99 MATCH UP S4MB-CTR
L&R Subs $700.00 Blam (pair) MB 200 W
Front Doors $700.00 Blam S (pair) 100N24+
Rear Doors $700.00 Blam S (pair) 100N24+
Rear Surround $159.99 (pair) MATCH UP S4MB-SUR
Sub Woofer $325.00 Cerwin Vega VPSTX12

I will have my installer help choose a sub (and box) when the new car comes in, but I will probably go with this amp,
Sub Woofer Amp $699.99 Audison AP F1D (although they also make one with similar specs for $300 less).

In my case I will be using an amp/DSP (Helix V Twelve) for the mid and high speakers too that will have a "pass through" to feed the sub amp, but if you only want to add a sub amp you will need one that accepts high (speaker) level inputs or use a high/low adapter. Many new amps accept both high and low level inputs, but it is something to watch for when shopping.
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 09:49 PM
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Does anyone install 2x ETON MB100F for front + rear door on standard audio?
And install ETON MB100CNX for center speaker? (I think this is plug and play)

I only can find video from below 2 link:
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It look not plug and play for front door.
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Not sure which speaker was install on it.
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I am interested in these conversions.
But I need to know which Burmester system we are talking about. Is it the plain Burmester, or the 3D version?

In addition, I'd like to find out if the 3D Burmester uses active speakers, each with its own amp, or if they are passive - amp in the head unit powering the speakers.
A Dynaudio system in a previous car used active speakers, and the control of the 3D system ovver its speakers reminds me of the Dynaudio.
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 04:35 PM
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You mentioned the GLE not being as comfortable as you had hoped. Did you have the air suspension package? I ask because I am waiting on my GLE to be built and bought it for comfort but also added the air suspension for that reason. Thanks for your feedback
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Originally Posted by Vegas Benz
Center Sur. $89.99 MATCH UP S4MB-CTR
L&R Subs $700.00 Blam (pair) MB 200 W
Front Doors $700.00 Blam S (pair) 100N24+
Rear Doors $700.00 Blam S (pair) 100N24+
Rear Surround $159.99 (pair) MATCH UP S4MB-SUR
Sub Woofer $325.00 Cerwin Vega VPSTX12

I will have my installer help choose a sub (and box) when the new car comes in, but I will probably go with this amp,
Sub Woofer Amp $699.99 Audison AP F1D (although they also make one with similar specs for $300 less).

In my case I will be using an amp/DSP (Helix V Twelve) for the mid and high speakers too that will have a "pass through" to feed the sub amp, but if you only want to add a sub amp you will need one that accepts high (speaker) level inputs or use a high/low adapter. Many new amps accept both high and low level inputs, but it is something to watch for when shopping.
Interested to see and learn how this turned out.
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Interested to see and learn how this turned out.
Thanks for finding that thread from a year ago.
There are more, too.
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Old Oct 1, 2022 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Vyper340vb
Interested to see and learn how this turned out.
I talked to him about the Cerwin Vega sub prior to buying one and if I recall correctly, he no longer has a GLE and scrapped that project due to getting a different vehicle.
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I talked to him about the Cerwin Vega sub prior to buying one and if I recall correctly, he no longer has a GLE and scrapped that project due to getting a different vehicle.
That's right. Post #5 above.
Here's Blam:
https://www.blam-audio.com/en/
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I would like to know how the Cerwin Vega VPSTX12 tied into the system.

Also would like to see some solutions for custom subwoofer install that does not require a “box” taking up space but instead is “hidden”.

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I would like to know how the Cerwin Vega VPSTX12 tied into the system.

Also would like to see some solutions for custom subwoofer install that does not require a “box” taking up space but instead is “hidden”.
refer to my post here, Cerwin Vega install, as to how I installed it.
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