Augmented Reality
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 23
Likes: 16
2017 E300 - 2018 GLS450
I ordered my 450 back in March but was delayed because I wanted the dashcam, head-up display, Augmented Video for Navigation and 22” wheels. It was finally in the system in July with mid-September delivery date but I don’t know if anything was removed. I guess I’ll ask my SA on Tuesday.
Member
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 159
Likes: 11
From: Florida
CLA 35 AMG 4matic 2022
I am trying to order my car and they are telling me that Augmented Reality will not be in my car. It still has 10.25-inch screen I have added everything except the parking package. Is this something that they are retrofitting afterward if you desire? On their website, it says that the LTE will be retrofitted free of charge and that of course because your Mercedes Me subscription of 1 yr wouldn't start until after they added the LTE as that would give it full functionality. from what I can see they do have the Hermes LTE on my package but not the augmented reality. I talked to my sales rep about it and he said none of the GLEs in 2022 are being shipped with It Does ANYONE KNOW IF AUGMENTED REALITY will be retrofitted for free?. I don't see how they can think Mercedes nav is not with 950$ by itself I don't get why whats point if u can use google. The ONLY reason I got it was for augmented reality but if I lose that and I decide to say no multimedia package what else do I lose? it looks like I lose MB navigation maps not a big loss if your using google. I'm just pissed off if I'm spending 50k on a CLA mind you it better have everything or should I just buy A 35 2021 with 5k miles on it however that has everything including parking assistance which is really not needed by me but is missing exterior lighting which IS necessary.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,063
Likes: 2,218
From: Colorado
'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former-03 C240,2 ML BlueTecs,20 GLE450 E-ABC,15 Cayenne D,17 Macan
I am trying to order my car and they are telling me that Augmented Reality will not be in my car. It still has 10.25-inch screen I have added everything except the parking package. Is this something that they are retrofitting afterward if you desire? On their website, it says that the LTE will be retrofitted free of charge and that of course because your Mercedes Me subscription of 1 yr wouldn't start until after they added the LTE as that would give it full functionality. from what I can see they do have the Hermes LTE on my package but not the augmented reality. I talked to my sales rep about it and he said none of the GLEs in 2022 are being shipped with It Does ANYONE KNOW IF AUGMENTED REALITY will be retrofitted for free?. I don't see how they can think Mercedes nav is not with 950$ by itself I don't get why whats point if u can use google. The ONLY reason I got it was for augmented reality but if I lose that and I decide to say no multimedia package what else do I lose? it looks like I lose MB navigation maps not a big loss if your using google. I'm just pissed off if I'm spending 50k on a CLA mind you it better have everything or should I just buy A 35 2021 with 5k miles on it however that has everything including parking assistance which is really not needed by me but is missing exterior lighting which IS necessary.
Having said that, I've had AR in my last two cars, and I don't like it. I keep it turned off, but it IS a Party Trick I can show passengers, but only briefly.
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 357
Likes: 130
From: Manhattan
2021 GLE 63
I have to say that IMHO, I like the AR on my 2021 GLE450 and don't find it so gimmicky, There have been a few times in unfamiliar areas or highway exits where it actually made choosing a three option exit clearer and also, having the street and turn on the dash is nice. Is it necessary, no but I think it's a nice option. I don't have the HUD so I can't compare.
Newbie
Joined: Nov 2021
Posts: 13
Likes: 3
GLE V167
Have the AR function on my 2021 GLE. To be honest, it is useless in most cases. Check your MBUX to have 549 code (not 548), otherwise it may not play video from usb. For AR retrofitting you may check this: https://rjautomotive.net/products/au...amera-retrofit
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 20
Likes: 7
2022 AMG CLA 35
No AR for Me
I am trying to order my car and they are telling me that Augmented Reality will not be in my car. It still has 10.25-inch screen I have added everything except the parking package. Is this something that they are retrofitting afterward if you desire? On their website, it says that the LTE will be retrofitted free of charge and that of course because your Mercedes Me subscription of 1 yr wouldn't start until after they added the LTE as that would give it full functionality. from what I can see they do have the Hermes LTE on my package but not the augmented reality. I talked to my sales rep about it and he said none of the GLEs in 2022 are being shipped with It Does ANYONE KNOW IF AUGMENTED REALITY will be retrofitted for free?. I don't see how they can think Mercedes nav is not with 950$ by itself I don't get why whats point if u can use google. The ONLY reason I got it was for augmented reality but if I lose that and I decide to say no multimedia package what else do I lose? it looks like I lose MB navigation maps not a big loss if your using google. I'm just pissed off if I'm spending 50k on a CLA mind you it better have everything or should I just buy A 35 2021 with 5k miles on it however that has everything including parking assistance which is really not needed by me but is missing exterior lighting which IS necessary.
My build sheet shows that the installed MBUX unit is a mid-level 458 unit and therefor cannot be retrofitted for AR, even the third-party after-market camera+ options won't work without the hi-res processing 459 MBUX installed. The Substitute audio for Burmester in AMG models is proving OK as it has a trunk mounted subwoofer and an adequate MBUX software equalizer.
Importantly,the car came with a fully active HERMES module, and so all of the on and off-board connectivity stuff works just fine. The MB Nav (without the AR) is very, very good and far exceeds the Google Maps option. The MB Nav integration of Mercedes Me services such as weather, automatic/dynamic re-routing for accidents, traffic and closures, plus parking spot location and auto-payment are impressive and very useful.
Junior Member
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 40
Likes: 11
V167
I just took delivery of my MY2022 CLA 35 and had ordered the MB Nav with the Augmented Reality feature and also the Burmester audio system... I did not receive either the AR feature or the Burmester. The price was reduced $345 for the lack of AR and the $850 charge for Burmester was removed.
My build sheet shows that the installed MBUX unit is a mid-level 458 unit and therefor cannot be retrofitted for AR, even the third-party after-market camera+ options won't work without the hi-res processing 459 MBUX installed. The Substitute audio for Burmester in AMG models is proving OK as it has a trunk mounted subwoofer and an adequate MBUX software equalizer.
Importantly,the car came with a fully active HERMES module, and so all of the on and off-board connectivity stuff works just fine. The MB Nav (without the AR) is very, very good and far exceeds the Google Maps option. The MB Nav integration of Mercedes Me services such as weather, automatic/dynamic re-routing for accidents, traffic and closures, plus parking spot location and auto-payment are impressive and very useful.
My build sheet shows that the installed MBUX unit is a mid-level 458 unit and therefor cannot be retrofitted for AR, even the third-party after-market camera+ options won't work without the hi-res processing 459 MBUX installed. The Substitute audio for Burmester in AMG models is proving OK as it has a trunk mounted subwoofer and an adequate MBUX software equalizer.
Importantly,the car came with a fully active HERMES module, and so all of the on and off-board connectivity stuff works just fine. The MB Nav (without the AR) is very, very good and far exceeds the Google Maps option. The MB Nav integration of Mercedes Me services such as weather, automatic/dynamic re-routing for accidents, traffic and closures, plus parking spot location and auto-payment are impressive and very useful.
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2021
Posts: 289
Likes: 69
From: Japan
Mercedes Benz AMG GLC 63s
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production
Verdad Gallardo
Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look
Verdad Gallardo
Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish
7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built
Verdad Gallardo
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)
Verdad Gallardo
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,063
Likes: 2,218
From: Colorado
'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former-03 C240,2 ML BlueTecs,20 GLE450 E-ABC,15 Cayenne D,17 Macan
I use NAV all the time, and it's quite good.
The AR is a matter of opinion, (IMO
) and I turn off the AR display and revert to the traditional look. It gives a lot better insight into complex intersections, especially ones with streets intersecting from an acute angle. BTW that "traditional look" is what shows on the HUD, and in the instrument cluster.
The S Class now shows both the AR and traditional diagram as you approach and move through an intersection. You get to choose which is more useful, on the same display. The traditional look is easier to follow, especially if you are working in heavy traffic - it's easier to just glance at the diagram. So "the best" must be "both."
For AR users, there is an icon on the NAV screen, right side, that looks like an intersection with the letters "AR" showing. Touch the icon and you switch back and forth between the views.
There are several options that you can drill down and enable for the display, such as "next street" and "current street."
The AR is a matter of opinion, (IMO
) and I turn off the AR display and revert to the traditional look. It gives a lot better insight into complex intersections, especially ones with streets intersecting from an acute angle. BTW that "traditional look" is what shows on the HUD, and in the instrument cluster.The S Class now shows both the AR and traditional diagram as you approach and move through an intersection. You get to choose which is more useful, on the same display. The traditional look is easier to follow, especially if you are working in heavy traffic - it's easier to just glance at the diagram. So "the best" must be "both."
For AR users, there is an icon on the NAV screen, right side, that looks like an intersection with the letters "AR" showing. Touch the icon and you switch back and forth between the views.
There are several options that you can drill down and enable for the display, such as "next street" and "current street."
Member
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 159
Likes: 11
From: Florida
CLA 35 AMG 4matic 2022
I'm curious DASHCAM ONLY NEEDED?
Member
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 159
Likes: 11
From: Florida
CLA 35 AMG 4matic 2022
I'm curious DASHCAM ONLY NEEDED?
Front and Rear Dash Cam - Installation
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 511
From: Westchester, NY
2014 Mercedes E350 4matic Wagon, 2018 Fiat 124 Spyder Lusso manual, 2005 Acura TSX manual
So I'm curious it seems to me that if you get the multimedia lite without Augmented reality is it because they don't have dashcams? I know that u need 1 for the other correct? Like dashcam is mandatory for Augmented reality correct? So is reason my car shipping without Augmented reality because silly dashcam. Which I see there is a work around if I'm not mistaken. Anyone know?
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 26
Likes: 5
From: Guelph, Ontario, Canada.
2021 GLE 350
As anything….
There is a learning curve with the AR option. I enjoy it and with the upcoming street and distance at the top of the screen, I’ve had no issues, it certainly is a minimal cost. I wanted the HUD but I choose the heated/cooling cup holders and the wireless charging instead and as mentioned I wanted the ability to a have full screen navigation on the instrument cluster, a must for me.
Member
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 84
Likes: 15
From: Southampton, UK
W167
AR and HUD
I have to say that IMHO, I like the AR on my 2021 GLE450 and don't find it so gimmicky, There have been a few times in unfamiliar areas or highway exits where it actually made choosing a three option exit clearer and also, having the street and turn on the dash is nice. Is it necessary, no but I think it's a nice option. I don't have the HUD so I can't compare.
both. If I could only have one it would be the HUD. I love the HUD it is so useful and I thought it would be a gimmic. The AR is good though.
Member
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 159
Likes: 11
From: Florida
CLA 35 AMG 4matic 2022
thanks buddy I'm going see if they retrofit does anyone know if Augmented reality needs a chip? Or is it just the dash cam they don't have and why they can't equip it?. I've seen retrofit with dashcam that activated Augmented reality but was Asian so not sure what or how they did it.
Member
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 159
Likes: 11
From: Florida
CLA 35 AMG 4matic 2022
no, that’s not correct. The dashcam requires AR as a precursor but you can (and most do) get AR without the dashcam. The reason for the multimedia lite without the AR nav is because AR Nav itself and the chips for it are unavailable. There’s no other option restricting AR Nav, it’s the AR Nav itself that’s not able to be had right now
Member
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 84
Likes: 15
From: Southampton, UK
W167
thanks buddy I'm going see if they retrofit does anyone know if Augmented reality needs a chip? Or is it just the dash cam they don't have and why they can't equip it?. I've seen retrofit with dashcam that activated Augmented reality but was Asian so not sure what or how they did it.
On the subject of the Nav I think the MAPS are the worst I have ever had. The NAV itself is great but the data feels like going back 5 years. Even trying to navigate home it takes me down a lane which doesn't connect to a main road and tries to route to my house across a field (this is however a known bug with the data).
Even yesterday I had to use my phone to find somewhere as the MB Nav tried taking down road which had pedestrian access to where I wanted to go but not vehicular access.
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 27
Likes: 1
GLE
I ordered my GLE without it because when I had loaner GLEs that had that option I felt it wasn't a necessity and I felt like it wouldnt work that often. The only reason why I would order it in the future is because the only way to get the full screen navigation map on the dash is if you have the augmented reality option. Right now the map space in the dash is a tiny square and it cannot go full screen.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Super Member
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 630
Likes: 188
C450, GLS 63 and a few other things
Member
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 159
Likes: 11
From: Florida
CLA 35 AMG 4matic 2022
s class does 
its such bs I'm sure not much more for them add it but way to screw everyone who i is not buying s class or better in really appalled at all the mbux 548 cars going out and people are accepting old tech in New car we should demand 549 because you don't just lose ar you also lose ability watch video from USB and its just better processor. I've verve heard of such it's like a computer company selling me the old computer with old nvidia card. I'll pay for the rtx 3090 install that in my benz dammit that'll handle anything it needs and more 😆 jk it's just very shady how they have downplayed how much this affects b the quality of your system in general and responsiveness.
its such bs I'm sure not much more for them add it but way to screw everyone who i is not buying s class or better in really appalled at all the mbux 548 cars going out and people are accepting old tech in New car we should demand 549 because you don't just lose ar you also lose ability watch video from USB and its just better processor. I've verve heard of such it's like a computer company selling me the old computer with old nvidia card. I'll pay for the rtx 3090 install that in my benz dammit that'll handle anything it needs and more 😆 jk it's just very shady how they have downplayed how much this affects b the quality of your system in general and responsiveness.
Member
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 159
Likes: 11
From: Florida
CLA 35 AMG 4matic 2022
Try using these 3 words
I think you have to have the dash cam for the AR but not 100% sure. You then have to pay to have the dash cam option. £200 in the UK.
On the subject of the Nav I think the MAPS are the worst I have ever had. The NAV itself is great but the data feels like going back 5 years. Even trying to navigate home it takes me down a lane which doesn't connect to a main road and tries to route to my house across a field (this is however a known bug with the data).
Even yesterday I had to use my phone to find somewhere as the MB Nav tried taking down road which had pedestrian access to where I wanted to go but not vehicular access.
On the subject of the Nav I think the MAPS are the worst I have ever had. The NAV itself is great but the data feels like going back 5 years. Even trying to navigate home it takes me down a lane which doesn't connect to a main road and tries to route to my house across a field (this is however a known bug with the data).
Even yesterday I had to use my phone to find somewhere as the MB Nav tried taking down road which had pedestrian access to where I wanted to go but not vehicular access.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,063
Likes: 2,218
From: Colorado
'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former-03 C240,2 ML BlueTecs,20 GLE450 E-ABC,15 Cayenne D,17 Macan
Try it - put any address in the search box. https://what3words.com/clip.apples.leap
I have the phone app, which will send my 3Word location to emergency responders.
I can also send directions via MercedesMeConnect, using the location from the website I posted.
Last edited by mikapen; Jan 10, 2022 at 05:28 PM.
Member
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 218
Likes: 54
From: Apex, NC
2022 GLE 450, 2024 Volvo XC 60
s class does its such bs I'm sure not much more for them add it but way to screw everyone who i is not buying s class or better in really appalled at all the mbux 548 cars going out and people are accepting old tech in New car we should demand 549 because you don't just lose ar you also lose ability watch video from USB and its just better processor. I've verve heard of such it's like a computer company selling me the old computer with old nvidia card. I'll pay for the rtx 3090 install that in my benz dammit that'll handle anything it needs and more 😆 jk it's just very shady how they have downplayed how much this affects b the quality of your system in general and responsiveness.
its such bs I'm sure not much more for them add it but way to screw everyone who i is not buying s class or better in really appalled at all the mbux 548 cars going out and people are accepting old tech in New car we should demand 549 because you don't just lose ar you also lose ability watch video from USB and its just better processor. I've verve heard of such it's like a computer company selling me the old computer with old nvidia card. I'll pay for the rtx 3090 install that in my benz dammit that'll handle anything it needs and more 😆 jk it's just very shady how they have downplayed how much this affects b the quality of your system in general and responsiveness.
