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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Neurobit
Great assessment. I also love my AMG53 better every day.

Note: We also have a ‘21 GLE350 (my wife’s), and that’s also an incredible vehicle. Quick, luxurious, and silent as a tomb.
We do experience the surge, but it goes completely away when turning start/stop off, so she does that automatically when starting the vehicle and is now second nature.
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I agree with the comments from you and Mikapen. The GLE 53 is a great balance of performance, comfort and sporty handling. Comments from the usual haters (self proclaimed experts) should be ignored. Mercedes has done an excellent job of combining the mild hybrid with electric & exhaust turbo to get a lot of power and most important torque out of a small displacement engine. The specs from 450 to 53 don’t seem much different but the 53 is better than the specs.
Yesterday I had 4 individuals plus golf bags on an outing…one individual has a new 700+ hp vehicle. I let him drive one leg of 15 miles. He commented twice about the surprising performance of my car and asked twice about the displacement?/not a V8?/what a great car!/loves the interior, comfort, etc. All this from a guy that owned a Race track and numerous race cars in the past.
My car seems to have changed for the better as it approached 10k miles. I notice slightly more exhaust rumble when accelerating aggressively but it’s still a quiet ride normally. Towing power improved on my last long trip. My fuel economy is not as good as my prior 450 but range to fill is still well over 450 miles…more than adequate for my needs. I’ll probably upgrade to a 63S E Performance if they become available but it won’t be because of any dissatisfaction with the GLE 53 performance.
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron.s
I agree with the comments from you and Mikapen. The GLE 53 is a great balance of performance, comfort and sporty handling. Comments from the usual haters (self proclaimed experts) should be ignored. Mercedes has done an excellent job of combining the mild hybrid with electric & exhaust turbo to get a lot of power and most important torque out of a small displacement engine. The specs from 450 to 53 don’t seem much different but the 53 is better than the specs.
Yesterday I had 4 individuals plus golf bags on an outing…one individual has a new 700+ hp vehicle. I let him drive one leg of 15 miles. He commented twice about the surprising performance of my car and asked twice about the displacement?/not a V8?/what a great car!/loves the interior, comfort, etc. All this from a guy that owned a Race track and numerous race cars in the past.
My car seems to have changed for the better as it approached 10k miles. I notice slightly more exhaust rumble when accelerating aggressively but it’s still a quiet ride normally. Towing power improved on my last long trip. My fuel economy is not as good as my prior 450 but range to fill is still well over 450 miles…more than adequate for my needs. I’ll probably upgrade to a 63S E Performance if they become available but it won’t be because of any dissatisfaction with the GLE 53 performance.
Agree, the 53 engine is quite a masterpiece, I love it in my CLS. One would think with all the different aspects from the engine such as the turbo, electric supercharger and 48-Volt EQ-Boost that this would make an inconsistent and discombobulated experience (see Volvo T8 powertrain for example) but its quite the opposite. Easily the best Inline-6 on the market today, and I say that coming from 25+ years of BMW Inline-6's. Its silky smooth, has a fantastic torque fill at low revs from the electric supercharger, loves to rev, and has the best start stop in the game. Reminds me a lot of an NA I6 in the way it builds power so smoothly.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 03:07 PM
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Agree, the 53 engine is quite a masterpiece, I love it in my CLS. One would think with all the different aspects from the engine such as the turbo, electric supercharger and 48-Volt EQ-Boost that this would make an inconsistent and discombobulated experience (see Volvo T8 powertrain for example) but its quite the opposite. Easily the best Inline-6 on the market today, and I say that coming from 25+ years of BMW Inline-6's. Its silky smooth, has a fantastic torque fill at low revs from the electric supercharger, loves to rev, and has the best start stop in the game. Reminds me a lot of an NA I6 in the way it builds power so smoothly.
Agree!
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 10:46 PM
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We just took delivery of a 2022 GLE350 which we ordered a few months ago. We are coming out of a 2019 GLE 400 and three previous MB SUV models starting back to the ML series. I was hesitant to get the new GLE 350 because of the engine size but went with it. We've only had the SUV for a few days but I am concerned with it's tendency to "lunge" forward when going slow and coming to a stop. I was pulling into a parking spot and noticed this happened while my foot was on the brake. The car sort of crept forward towards the parked car I was approaching causing me to have to brake slightly harder. It is also difficult to stop smoothly without feeling a "grab" of the brakes causing a jerky stop. It takes some finesse in the brake pedal modulation to accomplish a smooth stop with the SUV sometimes lunging forward before stopping. It happens in comfort and sports mode but seems to improve in ECO mode. I tried turning off the auto start button but it does not have any effect on alleviating this. Obviously, the SUV is brand new with under 100 miles. I am going to wait a while before taking it in for service to see if this doesn't correct itself maybe with it's learning process of drivers tendencies. Has anyone else experienced this type of jerkiness in their newer model GLE 350?

I just took possession of my 2022 GLE 350 AWD at the end of September. It had just 7 miles on the odometer when I drove off the lot. Initially, the braking was quite jerky, no matter how much I tried to brake gently. That drastically improved over the space of a couple of weeks. I've had my SUV around 43 days--it has around 598 miles on it, and I don't notice any issues now when braking, so I guess the brakes just had to be broken in. I've experienced a little bit of the lunging thing, mostly when removing my foot from the brake when the traffic light turns green and the car "wakes up." That seems to have gotten better, also. I think if you give it some time, some of the issues you're experiencing will get better. I LOVE my GLE!
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 05:24 AM
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When I first got the 22GLE350, the lunging was quite annoying. My routine after starting the car was to press the auto stop button then switch to economy to alleviate the lunging. Just last week it occurred to me that the only thing I do now is push the auto stop button. I completely forgot about having to switch to economy to prevent lunging. Why is that I ask? Because the car doesn't do that anymore! I lost track but this is the 4th or 5th MB SUV that we have leased. The 22 GLE 350 is a little bit under powered on the freeway during hard acceleration but that is my only mild complaint. It is a great vehicle!
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 09:15 AM
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It may not be related but one thing I’ve noticed is that my car will occasionally not creep forward while in drive with no throttle, while sometimes it will (and in all cases the ground is flat). It makes for parking in tight spaces difficult because you can’t creep forward using the brake pedal and without applying throttle (and the low-speed throttle is very, very non-linear and “lunges”). I’ve never experienced this before, ever. All cars I’ve owned will allow you to roll forward without throttle while this car is like Jekyll and Hyde: sometimes it will and sometimes it won’t. Not sure if it is transmission related or what.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenetic
It may not be related but one thing I’ve noticed is that my car will occasionally not creep forward while in drive with no throttle, while sometimes it will (and in all cases the ground is flat). It makes for parking in tight spaces difficult because you can’t creep forward using the brake pedal and without applying throttle (and the low-speed throttle is very, very non-linear and “lunges”). I’ve never experienced this before, ever. All cars I’ve owned will allow you to roll forward without throttle while this car is like Jekyll and Hyde: sometimes it will and sometimes it won’t. Not sure if it is transmission related or what.
I've noticed this a couple of times while parking in my garage. I've added cabinets across the front of my garage and if I attempt to move forward a bit closer than normal (like when I want to unload something large from the back) my GLE 350 does NOT want to move--definitely will not roll forward without throttle. I'm guessing that's due to the front sensors detecting the cabinets that are several feet out in front of the car. That may not be related to what you're experiencing, but just wanted to mention it, in case.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WindInMyHair
I've noticed this a couple of times while parking in my garage. I've added cabinets across the front of my garage and if I attempt to move forward a bit closer than normal (like when I want to unload something large from the back) my GLE 350 does NOT want to move--definitely will not roll forward without throttle. I'm guessing that's due to the front sensors detecting the cabinets that are several feet out in front of the car. That may not be related to what you're experiencing, but just wanted to mention it, in case.
The front sensors won't stop you at slow speed.
Did you engage the Hold function before trying to creep forward?

You can enable your front cameras to see precisely where you are.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
The front sensors won't stop you at slow speed.
Did you engage the Hold function before trying to creep forward?

You can enable your front cameras to see precisely where you are.
No, I need to look into that...not sure how to activate that. Thanks for the heads up on that function.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 11:01 AM
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No, I need to look into that...not sure how to activate that. Thanks for the heads up on that function.
The camera should come on with the parking sensores. Earlier if you have the sensors set to "Warn early all around,"
You can hit the P button on the console, and also select the view.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 11:01 AM
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Auto hold has nothing to do with my issue; I never ever turn that on.

If I were a betting man it’s the clunky transmission.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 11:12 AM
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It could be several things but my bet is it’s the brakes! They can be grabby not only on Mercedes but I’ve experienced it on Audi too. They can build up gunk-rust, residue from the pads mixed with metal. Mine were stuck the other day after washing it, I forgot to drive around and dry them. When mine get grabby I go to a wand type wash and spray between the pads…then apply the brakes reversing a few times. The 450 and up have the ISG between the engine and transmission so not likely the tranny.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 11:53 AM
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Auto hold has nothing to do with my issue; I never ever turn that on.

If I were a betting man it’s the clunky transmission.
Save your money.
​​​​​​You need to go to a real dealership and diagnose your problems. It seems like you have at least a hundred. You have an active imagination.

Your BMW might have an "auto hold" and that might be confusing you. It's the Mercedes-Benz "Hold" function we are talking about.
It wasn't about You.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 12:02 PM
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The hold is function is not on. You seem to jump to conclusions based on semantics and write the weirdest things.

Whether it’s called auto hold or brake hold, whatever, it’s the same thing and it’s not on.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
The camera should come on with the parking sensores. Earlier if you have the sensors set to "Warn early all around,"
You can hit the P button on the console, and also select the view.
Okay, thanks!
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 12:11 PM
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The hold is function is not on. You seem to jump to conclusions based on semantics and write the weirdest things.

Whether it’s called auto hold or brake hold, whatever, it’s the same thing and it’s not on.
They are different things. You could call it semantics. Or you could read the words you wrote.

This is a Forum, and the only thing we have to go on are the words that appear on screen.
Sorry if you think that's Weird.

It wasn't about you. Sorry.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 12:15 PM
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Mikapen, serious question. do you have ASD?
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Save your money.
​​​​​​You need to go to a real dealership and diagnose your problems. It seems like you have at least a hundred. You have an active imagination....... It's not about you.
Originally Posted by Frenetic
Mikapen, serious question. do you have ASD?
Yes you have a very active imagination.
Maybe you're internalizing every post that you see.
They are not all about you. Or your car.
Take a deep breath.
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