New 2022 GLE 350 lunges at slow speed breaking
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New 2022 GLE 350 lunges at slow speed breaking
We just took delivery of a 2022 GLE350 which we ordered a few months ago. We are coming out of a 2019 GLE 400 and three previous MB SUV models starting back to the ML series. I was hesitant to get the new GLE 350 because of the engine size but went with it. We've only had the SUV for a few days but I am concerned with it's tendency to "lunge" forward when going slow and coming to a stop. I was pulling into a parking spot and noticed this happened while my foot was on the brake. The car sort of crept forward towards the parked car I was approaching causing me to have to brake slightly harder. It is also difficult to stop smoothly without feeling a "grab" of the brakes causing a jerky stop. It takes some finesse in the brake pedal modulation to accomplish a smooth stop with the SUV sometimes lunging forward before stopping. It happens in comfort and sports mode but seems to improve in ECO mode. I tried turning off the auto start button but it does not have any effect on alleviating this. Obviously the SUV is brand new with under 100 miles. I am going to wait a while before taking it in for service to see if this doesn't correct itself maybe with it's learning process of drivers tendencies. Has anyone else experienced this type of jerkiness in their newer model GLE 350?
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Sounds like the auto start/stop "feature". Eco mode causes the car to start in2nd gear which smooths it out a bit. Try turning off the auto start and see if your experience is improved.
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I experienced this when I took delivery of my 2021 GLE 350. After about 2-3 months I got used to it and I don't notice my GLE doing this anymore. It might go away with time or you may get used to the braking on your GLE.
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As you mentioned it helps when you switch it to Eco mode since it will stay on 2nd gear. That "lunge" is the transmission downshifting from 2 to 1 and it does get better with age as it learns the more you drive it. Mine does get better now in Comfort and almost nonexistent in Eco mode and I just hit the 10k mile mark. I'd say by 4-5k I got used to it.
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We're at 1,000 miles and our first GL/GLE although plenty of miles in 3 previous Mercedes.
I noticed similar when we got it, as others say Eco mode and stop/start disabled does help. But it's not the smoothest engine / transmission combination - to me the 4-cyl engine does struggle a little with the size of the vehicle and you see that in several areas like this.
I noticed similar when we got it, as others say Eco mode and stop/start disabled does help. But it's not the smoothest engine / transmission combination - to me the 4-cyl engine does struggle a little with the size of the vehicle and you see that in several areas like this.
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2021 GLE350 and 2021 E450
I've driven both, many times. The 166 GLE400 has more power, better reliability, better sound system,and better build quality. It seems like your feelings are hurt. Have you ever driven a GLE400 or just wish you had more than a lethargic overly-complex straight six with an AMG badge? Buyers remorse on your one-sixty-lemon?
Every Mercedes from the past 20 years has been a turd.
P.S. My BMW will also lunge forward with the auto stop start.
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I have the same issue with my GLE 450 2020. Moreover, this issue has been raised here in the forum so many times. So, far no solution from BM. I hate my car because of this; I mean we paid thousands of dollar for a premium-car ride, but all we got is a shi**y experience.
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I have the same issue with my GLE 450 2020. Moreover, this issue has been raised here in the forum so many times. So, far no solution from BM. I hate my car because of this; I mean we paid thousands of dollar for a premium-car ride, but all we got is a shi**y experience.
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2021 GLE350 and 2021 E450
I have the same issue with my GLE 450 2020. Moreover, this issue has been raised here in the forum so many times. So, far no solution from BM. I hate my car because of this; I mean we paid thousands of dollar for a premium-car ride, but all we got is a shi**y experience.
If you really wanted a premium ride, you should have gotten a Hyundai Palisade.
But even there you have to turn off the auto start/stop.
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An UPDATE: I was able to do some extensive driving today, both city and highway with my 2022 GLE350. I have had 3 ML350's and two previous GLE's one a 350 and the other a 400. The turbos in the 400 made it the most powerful one I had driven. I am a little disappointed in the power of the 2022 GLE350 but must say, it wasn't really much worse than all of the other MB SUV's we leased excluding the GLE400. Build quality seems good throughout. The electronics in the new generation is light years ahead of the previous models. "Hey Mercedes" route guidence. Just say the address and it's entered. The touch screen and steering wheel controls makes most tasks effortless. I actually feel like I'm driving a more luxurious SUV then previous models. The LUNGING is lessening as my driving habits are learned. If you want to eliminate that completely, just push auto stop and put it in eco mode. I totally agree with everyone that says, you shouldn't have to do this and MB should address this issue but it is what it is. I have complained about other idiosyncricies of the several other MB SUV's we have had in the past but they obviously weren't insurmountable seeing I am in our 5th one in a row. They have been dependable, safe and a nice vehicle to drive. I'm sure I will be on this forum *****ing about something else but reading all of the comments on this topic, I think some are unwarranted. That being said, I have found MB customer service getting worse through the years. They politely have a F.you attitude when I have dealt with them more recently.
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I agree, the tech on these cars is very good. Today we did the 'Hey Mercedes' thing to C'est Si Bon Bakery in Newport Beach and it got it 1st time even though our French is elementary at best. Pretty cool.
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I've driven both, many times. The 166 GLE400 has more power, better reliability, better sound system,and better build quality. It seems like your feelings are hurt. Have you ever driven a GLE400 or just wishing you had more than a lethargic overly-complex straight six with an AMG marketing badge? Perhaps you're just suffering from buyers remorse on your one-sixty-lemon?
Aside from that, I'll dispute your claims.
The AMG53 ENGINE has 429 hp / 384 ft-lbs (PLUS EQ Boost), 0-60 in 5.3, quarter mile in 13.8 @ 105mph. The GLE400 is 329 / 354, 0-60 5.5 / 14.1 @ 99mph. The Six FEELS quicker in all situations, and it is.
The 167 CHASSIS is miles better in every measure - torsional and bend rigidity, ride quality, interior room. comfort, and visibility. The stiffer chassis gives a better platform for the suspension, so it can be tuned for both handling and comfort. Too bad it gained some weight, but a hundred pounds is acceptable for the extra room.
Handling and braking are significantly better. OMG that W166 was a floppy disaster, compared to the W164 (I had both), and especially compared to the 167.
The new straight six is a masterful improvement in simplicity, eliminating an entire set of turbos and catalysts, belts and other parasitic drags. Twin turbo ANYthing is more complex than a straight six, especially the way M-B packaged the turbo and cat.
Yes, I spent a few hundred miles in a GLE400 as a loaner vehicle. It was impressive compared to the old 350, which didn't have enough engine for the car. I went diesel (twice) since I used it for towing a 27' RV, but it was more responsive around town than the 400, too. 460 ft lbs in the BlueTec moves things pretty well. Unfortunately my Special Order '15 GLE BlueTec was built but held forever, until they cancelled the orders for '15 diesels.
I like my AMG53 better every day. I also like the looks, and I have a great Service Department to complete the package.
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I agree that the Harman Kardon sound system is better than the $850 Burmester, but both are nowhere near the HD Burmester.
Aside from that, I'll dispute your claims.
The AMG53 ENGINE has 429 hp / 384 ft-lbs (PLUS EQ Boost), 0-60 in 5.3, quarter mile in 13.8 @ 105mph. The GLE400 is 329 / 354, 0-60 5.5 / 14.1 @ 99mph. The Six FEELS quicker in all situations, and it is.
The 167 CHASSIS is miles better in every measure - torsional and bend rigidity, ride quality, interior room. comfort, and visibility. The stiffer chassis gives a better platform for the suspension, so it can be tuned for both handling and comfort. Too bad it gained some weight, but a hundred pounds is acceptable for the extra room.
Handling and braking are significantly better. OMG that W166 was a floppy disaster, compared to the W164 (I had both), and especially compared to the 167.
The new straight six is a masterful improvement in simplicity, eliminating an entire set of turbos and catalysts, belts and other parasitic drags. Twin turbo ANYthing is more complex than a straight six, especially the way M-B packaged the turbo and cat.
Yes, I spent a few hundred miles in a GLE400 as a loaner vehicle. It was impressive compared to the old 350, which didn't have enough engine for the car. I went diesel (twice) since I used it for towing a 27' RV, but it was more responsive around town than the 400, too. 460 ft lbs in the BlueTec moves things pretty well. Unfortunately my Special Order '15 GLE BlueTec was built but held forever, until they cancelled the orders for '15 diesels.
I like my AMG53 better every day. I also like the looks, and I have a great Service Department to complete the package.
Aside from that, I'll dispute your claims.
The AMG53 ENGINE has 429 hp / 384 ft-lbs (PLUS EQ Boost), 0-60 in 5.3, quarter mile in 13.8 @ 105mph. The GLE400 is 329 / 354, 0-60 5.5 / 14.1 @ 99mph. The Six FEELS quicker in all situations, and it is.
The 167 CHASSIS is miles better in every measure - torsional and bend rigidity, ride quality, interior room. comfort, and visibility. The stiffer chassis gives a better platform for the suspension, so it can be tuned for both handling and comfort. Too bad it gained some weight, but a hundred pounds is acceptable for the extra room.
Handling and braking are significantly better. OMG that W166 was a floppy disaster, compared to the W164 (I had both), and especially compared to the 167.
The new straight six is a masterful improvement in simplicity, eliminating an entire set of turbos and catalysts, belts and other parasitic drags. Twin turbo ANYthing is more complex than a straight six, especially the way M-B packaged the turbo and cat.
Yes, I spent a few hundred miles in a GLE400 as a loaner vehicle. It was impressive compared to the old 350, which didn't have enough engine for the car. I went diesel (twice) since I used it for towing a 27' RV, but it was more responsive around town than the 400, too. 460 ft lbs in the BlueTec moves things pretty well. Unfortunately my Special Order '15 GLE BlueTec was built but held forever, until they cancelled the orders for '15 diesels.
I like my AMG53 better every day. I also like the looks, and I have a great Service Department to complete the package.
Note: We also have a ‘21 GLE350 (my wife’s), and that’s also an incredible vehicle. Quick, luxurious, and silent as a tomb.
We do experience the surge, but it goes completely away when turning start/stop off, so she does that automatically when starting the vehicle and is now second nature.
Cheers,
