GLE 63 order thoughts - North East and 22" rims
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GLE 63 order thoughts - North East and 22" rims
So based on some opinions here I looked around after placing my order for my GLE 63 - October build (have a 2021 GLE 450 that I love now).to see if I could get a better deal than $10k over sticker because that really just bothers me and I'm even questioning myself with gas prices so ridiculous (here in NYC). A new wrinkle in my search, I found a dealer that I'm going to see if they go to $6k and their build is supposedly landing end of Aug (I have build sheet) and is even in the same Selenite color of my GLE now. A couple of issues I'd like opinions on which cause me a lot of concern. First is that they optioned it with the 22" wheels and even worse with Summer performance tire option (I live in Manhattan and have no place to swap tires and store) I need this car for all year use, could I replace all weather tires on a 22" rim and is that ridiculous?, second is that it has the beige Machiato napa interior with diamond stiching which looks great, but I am really scared bout it getting dirty. It has more options that i really wanted with the upgraded burmeister and warmth and comfort package (I think they just fully loaded it). and it's a whopping $137K. Almost twice what I paid fo9r my GLR 450 which has honestly been such a pleasure and no slouch. I'm just kind of obsessed with the 63. Anyone here ride 22's? Ho wbad is it? 21's now have been better than I thought.
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Here is an opinion you didn't ask for. Do you really want the 63? You have posted enough concerns and praise for the 450 that makes me think the premium won't feel worth it. I love watches and I want to own all these variations and sometimes I remind myself that I should love what I already have as I talk myself back down to earth. Only you know what you want but from what I can see from a far outside perspective is I'd enjoy the 450 and get the AMG later down the line.
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Here is an opinion you didn't ask for. Do you really want the 63? You have posted enough concerns and praise for the 450 that makes me think the premium won't feel worth it. I love watches and I want to own all these variations and sometimes I remind myself that I should love what I already have as I talk myself back down to earth. Only you know what you want but from what I can see from a far outside perspective is I'd enjoy the 450 and get the AMG later down the line.
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Are all season tires even available in that size? If you can’t swap with winter tires and all seasons are unavailable, that car will sit unused for a significant part of the year.
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That is a major concern and I don't know. Unfortunately I also don't have a place to store the tires for winter if I wanted to
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End of August build will be a 2022 vs order a 2023? You might eat up the $4k difference fixing the tire issue. Some Tire Stores offer storage for tires but then you might not even find winter tires in that size. (I would check with a major Tire shop like Tire Rack, Costco, Discount Tire or even ask the selling Dealer.)
If you aren’t in a hurry you might wait a few months and see how the Economy plays out. High Gas prices, High interest rates, Stock Market Losses, possible Recession might change the dynamics by fall.
If you aren’t in a hurry you might wait a few months and see how the Economy plays out. High Gas prices, High interest rates, Stock Market Losses, possible Recession might change the dynamics by fall.
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Just my opinion as a lifelong driver from Michigan and having multiple ultra high performance SUV’s over the years. The stock tires, while not optimal for winter driving, can still be used. They are not useless and let’s face it, NYC doesn’t get huge snow that lasts on the streets for long. It’s not Vermont or Colorado, lol. Really don’t think changing tires is necessary unless extended driving on unplowed and unconditioned streets. 99% of the time the streets are fine for the standard tires imho.
If you’re concerned, and you should be, about the wheels or tires getting damaged then contact a couple people on the forum for some great prices on aftermarket high-end coverage.
If you’re concerned, and you should be, about the wheels or tires getting damaged then contact a couple people on the forum for some great prices on aftermarket high-end coverage.
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Just my opinion as a lifelong driver from Michigan and having multiple ultra high performance SUV’s over the years. The stock tires, while not optimal for winter driving, can still be used. They are not useless and let’s face it, NYC doesn’t get huge snow that lasts on the streets for long. It’s not Vermont or Colorado, lol. Really don’t think changing tires is necessary unless extended driving on unplowed and unconditioned streets. 99% of the time the streets are fine for the standard tires imho.
NYC gets a lot more snow than MI, except for Benton Harbor area. And then it's piled on 5th Avenue there for weeks, waiting for the Big Melt.
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I think using summer UHP tires in freezing temps will not only damage them, but probably prohibit movement on ice and snow. I.e. use a different car. Winter, or All Weather tires are necessary. Even All Seasons are questionable.
NYC gets a lot more snow than MI, except for Benton Harbor area. And then it's piled on 5th Avenue there for weeks, waiting for the Big Melt.
NYC gets a lot more snow than MI, except for Benton Harbor area. And then it's piled on 5th Avenue there for weeks, waiting for the Big Melt.
Tread Compound Cracking:
“Tread compound cracking is a permanent condition that requires the tires to be replaced. The other condition that can be caused by running summer performance tires in cold temperatures is the possibility of chipping away the edges of the tread blocks.”
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I think using summer UHP tires in freezing temps will not only damage them, but probably prohibit movement on ice and snow. I.e. use a different car. Winter, or All Weather tires are necessary. Even All Seasons are questionable.
NYC gets a lot more snow than MI, except for Benton Harbor area. And then it's piled on 5th Avenue there for weeks, waiting for the Big Melt.
NYC gets a lot more snow than MI, except for Benton Harbor area. And then it's piled on 5th Avenue there for weeks, waiting for the Big Melt.
UHP and UHP All Season are two different animals…and the tires that arrived on my AMG 63S were all season just like most. NYC is a cake walk compared to Detroit for winter driving considering that there is almost NO WHERE in the city where anyone is doing speeds like in the other. Having lived in both I know the difference…
UHP All Season is an option
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I guess I must have lived in NYC, Ann Arbor and Lansing at the wrong time then, because that's not my experience.
(they can't just remove the snow, because there's no place to put it, so it just sits there and gets darker in color. Melts freezes melts and repeats.)
But more to the point, if you want to get around and not worry about being able to use your car in the winter, get the right tires.
If it's just a spare car, you can switch cars and not worry about the right tires for the season.
In recent years, I have come to respect the vehicle-specific tires that the tire manufacturers are making. In this case it's the MO designation, and MO-1 for AMG. There is a difference, and sometimes they are even less expensive.
(they can't just remove the snow, because there's no place to put it, so it just sits there and gets darker in color. Melts freezes melts and repeats.)But more to the point, if you want to get around and not worry about being able to use your car in the winter, get the right tires.
If it's just a spare car, you can switch cars and not worry about the right tires for the season.
In recent years, I have come to respect the vehicle-specific tires that the tire manufacturers are making. In this case it's the MO designation, and MO-1 for AMG. There is a difference, and sometimes they are even less expensive.
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I guess I must have lived in NYC, Ann Arbor and Lansing at the wrong time then, because that's not my experience. (they can't just remove the snow, because there's no place to put it, so it just sits there and gets darker in color. Melts freezes melts and repeats.)
But more to the point, if you want to get around and not worry about being able to use your car in the winter, get the right tires.
If it's just a spare car, you can switch cars and not worry about the right tires for the season.
In recent years, I have come to respect the vehicle-specific tires that the tire manufacturers are making. In this case it's the MO designation, and MO-1 for AMG. There is a difference, and sometimes they are even less expensive.
(they can't just remove the snow, because there's no place to put it, so it just sits there and gets darker in color. Melts freezes melts and repeats.)But more to the point, if you want to get around and not worry about being able to use your car in the winter, get the right tires.
If it's just a spare car, you can switch cars and not worry about the right tires for the season.
In recent years, I have come to respect the vehicle-specific tires that the tire manufacturers are making. In this case it's the MO designation, and MO-1 for AMG. There is a difference, and sometimes they are even less expensive.
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No chance you’re correct sir. Almanac is your friend …
UHP and UHP All Season are two different animals…and the tires that arrived on my AMG 63S were all season just like most. NYC is a cake walk compared to Detroit for winter driving considering that there is almost NO WHERE in the city where anyone is doing speeds like in the other. Having lived in both I know the difference…
UHP All Season is an option
UHP and UHP All Season are two different animals…and the tires that arrived on my AMG 63S were all season just like most. NYC is a cake walk compared to Detroit for winter driving considering that there is almost NO WHERE in the city where anyone is doing speeds like in the other. Having lived in both I know the difference…
UHP All Season is an option
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realize this thread is old but 63 s is every bit worth it IMHO. I got a crazy deal on a 21 with 1k miles on it, drive into Manhattan regularly. Love the car to death it is sick beyond belief. I’m gonna get another with the upgrade.
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after finally getting my 63 I’m quite the believer myself and driving happily around Manhattan with the 22’s
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Seems like they'd be fine for most of this winter so far, with today being the first day we've had any sort of real coating.
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Hi,, No I bit the bullet and shipped the only available Scorpion Zero all seasons to the dealership before I picked it up to swap out the summer tires. I remember having summer tires on my CLK55 years ago and sliding off the highway in a light dusting of snow and siad I'd never do that again. I know some people that do but I'd rather give up a little performance for year round peace of mind. I don't have anywhere to store tires as well. As for this winter, you may get by since it's been pretty warm but also remember that summer tires get stiffer at lower temps.
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). Went to the NYAMG group meetup recently, fun to see so many tuned AMG's
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Hi,, No I bit the bullet and shipped the only available Scorpion Zero all seasons to the dealership before I picked it up to swap out the summer tires. I remember having summer tires on my CLK55 years ago and sliding off the highway in a light dusting of snow and siad I'd never do that again. I know some people that do but I'd rather give up a little performance for year round peace of mind. I don't have anywhere to store tires as well. As for this winter, you may get by since it's been pretty warm but also remember that summer tires get stiffer at lower temps.
If I get the GLE 63, I'll probably do the same thing. Seems like I'd need to order in the summer/fall time period if I wanna get a set of those before they go out of stock.
