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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 11:28 AM
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Anyone know where the GLE 305’s engine is made?
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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 12:46 PM
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Nissan engines. M274, M264 and M254. Take note of how short-lived the M264 engine model designation was used...MB is running from the scene of the crime...

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Alongside engines for the Nissan Rogue and Maxima.


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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 03:13 PM
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Anyone know where the GLE 305’s engine is made?
Germany
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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 04:12 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 04:41 PM
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Nissan engines. M274, M264 and M254. Take note of how short-lived the M264 engine model designation was used...MB is running from the scene of the crime...

Decherd, TN.

Alongside engines for the Nissan Rogue and Maxima.

Even if the engine is assembled by Nissan as part of a partnership agreement with Renault/Nissan, the engine is still Mercedes designed.
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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 05:23 PM
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Say again?
You heard me. Untertürkeim. Even says it on the Monroney.
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You heard me. Untertürkeim. Even says it on the Monroney.
I have to take a look at our sticker. For 2020 I believe the engine comes from the US for the 350, Germany for the 450.

Just checked some stickers and indeed for the 2022 model I found some with a US and some with a German engine…

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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 01:45 AM
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so how reliable this 2.0 should be then?
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so how reliable this 2.0 should be then?
Great question. The predecessor engine M274 seems reliable until it’s not. Read about major failures in C, GLC and E models.

Note the short length of time MB used the M264 engine nomenclature. The successor engine is the M254. M264 is being phased out after a short lifecycle.

Reliability of the current (M254) is almost unknown because of its newness. Caveat emptor.

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It is my understanding that the 350's I-4 is made in the ol' USA.
The GLE 450's I-6 is made in Germany as is the transmission as per my window sticker.



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I have to take a look at our sticker. For 2020 I believe the engine comes from the US for the 350, Germany for the 450.

Just checked some stickers and indeed for the 2022 model I found some with a US and some with a German engine…
We have German built 350 motors. Anyway it's a moot point. When the GLE receives the new engine that is in the C 300 it will be German built.
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We have German built 350 motors. Anyway it's a moot point. When the GLE receives the new engine that is in the C 300 it will be German built.
Do you mean the M254?
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Do you mean the M254?
I don't think there is anything bad phasing out the M264 engine. It was short-lived because it was a non-EQ Boost engine and those are going away...
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I don't think there is anything bad phasing out the M264 engine. It was short-lived because it was a non-EQ Boost engine and those are going away...
It was short lived, that is certain. The reason for the lack of longevity is not clear. EQ was under development when M264 was under development. Another possible explanation for the short lifecycle, is that M264 had "issues" like the M274 on which it is based.
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It was short lived, that is certain. The reason for the lack of longevity is not clear. EQ was under development when M264 was under development. Another possible explanation for the short lifecycle, is that M264 had "issues" like the M274 on which it is based.
That seems less likely. Just an outdated engine without EQ-Boost. Every engine in the lineup is being updated with EQ boost engines, including the Diesel and hybrids.
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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 09:19 PM
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I don't think there is anything bad phasing out the M264 engine. It was short-lived because it was a non-EQ Boost engine and those are going away...
Wait, I thought the M264 is paired with EQ boost in everywhere other than North America? Example models like the W205 C 200 facelift. So based on that, the M264 is actually capable in pairing with EQ Boost but for some reason MB decides that they want (or need?) to develop something else yet again, the M254. The M254 as far as I found so far seems to be exclusively for the "C 300" for now, M264 with EQ boost I think is also used in the W206 C 200 and not just the W205 C 200 facelift.
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M264 had EQ Boost.

https://group-media.mercedes-benz.co...l?oid=29794362
Four-cylinder engine: electrification goes on.

Making its debut next will be the new-generation, four-cylinder petrol engine (M 264) with a power-to-swept-volume ratio of well over 100 kW per litre. The use of a belt-driven starter generator with a 48-volt on-board electrical system also marks a further step towards the electrification of the drive system and facilitates functions such as boost, coasting with the engine off and recuperation. Further characteristics of the new engine include the twin-scroll turbocharger with wastegate actuator and the electric water pump.


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M264 had EQ Boost.

https://group-media.mercedes-benz.co...l?oid=29794362
Four-cylinder engine: electrification goes on.

Making its debut next will be the new-generation, four-cylinder petrol engine (M 264) with a power-to-swept-volume ratio of well over 100 kW per litre. The use of a belt-driven starter generator with a 48-volt on-board electrical system also marks a further step towards the electrification of the drive system and facilitates functions such as boost, coasting with the engine off and recuperation. Further characteristics of the new engine include the twin-scroll turbocharger with wastegate actuator and the electric water pump.


https://www.group1auto.co.uk/mercedes-benz/brochures
Not the one in the GLE although they made a EQ boost version for certain models…
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I think these days, Mercedes is calling both the inline and belt driven starter generator as EQBoost.
IDK if the basic engine can be interchanged with different starter generators.
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Is it a good thing or bad thing that it's made in USA?
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Is it a good thing or bad thing that it's made in USA?
It shouldn't matter. Mercedes models and components have been manufactured in different parts of the world for many decades. The key are the quality processes in place to catch when something isn't up to par.
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It shouldn't matter. Mercedes models and components have been manufactured in different parts of the world for many decades. The key are the quality processes in place to catch when something isn't up to par.
Would hope they are using a 6-sigma manufacturing process, where the quality ( i.e., built to spec) is designed into the process.
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It shouldn't matter. Mercedes models and components have been manufactured in different parts of the world for many decades. The key are the quality processes in place to catch when something isn't up to par.
When I worked in R&D, we started moving new products to different countries for manufacturing. Same processes, more less like a duplication. One would think they shouldn't matter. It took a long time before things started to go into their orbits. A lot actually had to do with different people doing the same things.
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Would hope they are using a 6-sigma manufacturing process, where the quality ( i.e., built to spec) is designed into the process.
One would hope so. My case personally... rattling right off the lot. Something that should have been caught during quality check process.
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