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I am not sure how this has actually slipped past my eagle eyes for so long to be honest. This forum is labeled and titled as GLE Class (V167) and that is actually completely wrong. I am also guilty of referring to it as such due to this forum as well. The 4th generation GLE chassis number is actually W167 which follows traditional nomenclature. W167 is the proper term for the standard length GLE. There is a long wheel base GLE variant that is only sold and available in India and that is where V167 comes from. Mercedes has no plans nor do they offer this anywhere else in the world. A quick google search along with Wikipedia will verify all of this as being true and correct. It appears the snafu and clerical error happened from a typo in the first DOG's MBUSA put out for the 2020 model year. I always wondered how we jumped from from W166 to V167 now I know. Perhaps the mods or admins could update the site to properly match what the proper chassis number is for the 4th generation.
You are most certainly correct and I stand here with pie on my face. After some serious sleuthing to prove my point being that I believed I was right, turns out I am wrong. I discovered internal MB and MBUSA documents and website source code that does reflect this. The tons of various auto news sites, bloggers, reference sites such as Wiki and the aggregator sites are all wrong when speaking of W167/V167 circa 2019. The only thing that is true is in India you can get a long wheel base GLE that is 80 extra millimeters. (3.14 inches)
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Originally Posted by btshep
You are most certainly correct and I stand here with pie on my face. After some serious sleuthing to prove my point being that I believed I was right, turns out I am wrong. I discovered internal MB and MBUSA documents and website source code that does reflect this. The tons of various auto news sites, bloggers, reference sites such as Wiki and the aggregator sites are all wrong when speaking of W167/V167 circa 2019. The only thing that is true is in India you can get a long wheel base GLE that is 80 extra millimeters. (3.14 inches)
Surprised something like that is not sold in china for example as far as I learned they are all about long wheel base vehicles. Another thing is, always do fact checking after using Wikipedia, anyone can go in and edit after all, that said though, there is usually more credibility with the sources they cite, so use that instead.
You are most certainly correct and I stand here with pie on my face. After some serious sleuthing to prove my point being that I believed I was right, turns out I am wrong. I discovered internal MB and MBUSA documents and website source code that does reflect this. The tons of various auto news sites, bloggers, reference sites such as Wiki and the aggregator sites are all wrong when speaking of W167/V167 circa 2019. The only thing that is true is in India you can get a long wheel base GLE that is 80 extra millimeters. (3.14 inches)
Now that we have the V & W dilemma straightened out, you bring forth another tidbit of odd information. Respectfully, why in Jack Daniels would Mercedes make a vehicle 3.4 inches longer in one country and not in all the others? Of what value is 3.4 inches more in a vehicle? It’s more costly to do so without a reasonable justification - None of which I can see nor understand.
The weird thing about the LWB version is it's hard to actually find pictures that accurately show it. I was curious about this too at some point and when I poked around on the MB India website, everything there looked like it used photos/video of the regular GLE.
Even the "eBrochure" reuses the dimensions sketch from a standard wheelbase GLE despite having "LWB" in the file name. Scroll to the bottom and you will see all of the specs are identical to a standard wheelbase GLE sold in the US (2995 mm or 117.9"): https://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/cont...LE_LWB_new.pdf
That being said, I doubt it is very expensive for Mercedes to offer a model for a single market. The GLE is a unibody design with separate front- and rear-subframes, and the GLE Coupe already has a shorter wheelbase than the GLE SUV, so they clearly have an easily adjustable chassis. What I'm most curious is where the extra length is at... is it in the door, or the rear quarter-panel? I can't find a good image to put side-by-side to show the differences.
The weird thing about the LWB version is it's hard to actually find pictures that accurately show it. I was curious about this too at some point and when I poked around on the MB India website, everything there looked like it used photos/video of the regular GLE.
Even the "eBrochure" reuses the dimensions sketch from a standard wheelbase GLE despite having "LWB" in the file name. Scroll to the bottom and you will see all of the specs are identical to a standard wheelbase GLE sold in the US (2995 mm or 117.9"): https://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/cont...LE_LWB_new.pdf
That being said, I doubt it is very expensive for Mercedes to offer a model for a single market. The GLE is a unibody design with separate front- and rear-subframes, and the GLE Coupe already has a shorter wheelbase than the GLE SUV, so they clearly have an easily adjustable chassis. What I'm most curious is where the extra length is at... is it in the door, or the rear quarter-panel? I can't find a good image to put side-by-side to show the differences.
Thanks, And again we… No, you this time raised another issue. “What I'm most curious is where the extra length is at... ”. A cup of Starbucks (small) to anyone who knows?
8726606[/url]]However when I first drove a new GLE I was amazed how much more rear seat room it has over the W166 ML/GLE
I totally agree, the difference in room between the two was a nice selling point for me. Now, if they can just work on its reliability compared to the W166.
The take away from this article and all the other India centric automotive media sites is that it’s purely marketing on Mercedes-Benz India’s part. I spent the better part of close to an hour perusing multiple sites. In reality, there is no long wheel base GLE. All the dimensions are universal worldwide. Mercedes-Benz India has decided to market it as long wheelbase GLE as evidenced in the photos from the country’s auto shows where they have a plate on the front that says LWB GLE. The extra 3+ inches was only achieved when comparing it to the outgoing, third generation as the article states. It is merely a play on words comparing the V167 body to the W166.
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