Notices
GLE Class (V167) Produced 2020 to present

This SubForum Is Actually Titled Incorrectly

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Feb 14, 2023 | 01:34 AM
  #1  
btshep's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 184
Likes: 32
From: North Jersey
2020 GLE 580 | 2020 Ram 1500 Limited
This SubForum Is Actually Titled Incorrectly

I am not sure how this has actually slipped past my eagle eyes for so long to be honest. This forum is labeled and titled as GLE Class (V167) and that is actually completely wrong. I am also guilty of referring to it as such due to this forum as well. The 4th generation GLE chassis number is actually W167 which follows traditional nomenclature. W167 is the proper term for the standard length GLE. There is a long wheel base GLE variant that is only sold and available in India and that is where V167 comes from. Mercedes has no plans nor do they offer this anywhere else in the world. A quick google search along with Wikipedia will verify all of this as being true and correct. It appears the snafu and clerical error happened from a typo in the first DOG's MBUSA put out for the 2020 model year. I always wondered how we jumped from from W166 to V167 now I know. Perhaps the mods or admins could update the site to properly match what the proper chassis number is for the 4th generation.

Last edited by btshep; Feb 14, 2023 at 01:37 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2023 | 02:04 AM
  #2  
Wolfman's Avatar
Super Moderator
MBWorld Ambassador

20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,534
Likes: 3,669
From: Land of 10,000 lakes
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
This is one of those instances where Wikipedia is incorrect.
The standard version is the V167, not a W167.
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2023 | 03:07 AM
  #3  
btshep's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 184
Likes: 32
From: North Jersey
2020 GLE 580 | 2020 Ram 1500 Limited
You are most certainly correct and I stand here with pie on my face. After some serious sleuthing to prove my point being that I believed I was right, turns out I am wrong. I discovered internal MB and MBUSA documents and website source code that does reflect this. The tons of various auto news sites, bloggers, reference sites such as Wiki and the aggregator sites are all wrong when speaking of W167/V167 circa 2019. The only thing that is true is in India you can get a long wheel base GLE that is 80 extra millimeters. (3.14 inches)



Reply
Old Feb 14, 2023 | 12:56 PM
  #4  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,217
Likes: 6,276
Originally Posted by btshep
You are most certainly correct and I stand here with pie on my face. After some serious sleuthing to prove my point being that I believed I was right, turns out I am wrong. I discovered internal MB and MBUSA documents and website source code that does reflect this. The tons of various auto news sites, bloggers, reference sites such as Wiki and the aggregator sites are all wrong when speaking of W167/V167 circa 2019. The only thing that is true is in India you can get a long wheel base GLE that is 80 extra millimeters. (3.14 inches)



Surprised something like that is not sold in china for example as far as I learned they are all about long wheel base vehicles. Another thing is, always do fact checking after using Wikipedia, anyone can go in and edit after all, that said though, there is usually more credibility with the sources they cite, so use that instead.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2023 | 04:42 AM
  #5  
Pappachoppers's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 78
Likes: 33
From: Medina Ohio
2022 GLE
Originally Posted by btshep
You are most certainly correct and I stand here with pie on my face. After some serious sleuthing to prove my point being that I believed I was right, turns out I am wrong. I discovered internal MB and MBUSA documents and website source code that does reflect this. The tons of various auto news sites, bloggers, reference sites such as Wiki and the aggregator sites are all wrong when speaking of W167/V167 circa 2019. The only thing that is true is in India you can get a long wheel base GLE that is 80 extra millimeters. (3.14 inches)



Now that we have the V & W dilemma straightened out, you bring forth another tidbit of odd information. Respectfully, why in Jack Daniels would Mercedes make a vehicle 3.4 inches longer in one country and not in all the others? Of what value is 3.4 inches more in a vehicle? It’s more costly to do so without a reasonable justification - None of which I can see nor understand.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2023 | 09:07 AM
  #6  
GordonGEICO's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 308
Likes: 95
2024 X5 M60i, 2018 C63S Coupe (sold)
The weird thing about the LWB version is it's hard to actually find pictures that accurately show it. I was curious about this too at some point and when I poked around on the MB India website, everything there looked like it used photos/video of the regular GLE.

MB India GLE LWB page:
https://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/pass.../overview.html

Even the "eBrochure" reuses the dimensions sketch from a standard wheelbase GLE despite having "LWB" in the file name. Scroll to the bottom and you will see all of the specs are identical to a standard wheelbase GLE sold in the US (2995 mm or 117.9"):
https://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/cont...LE_LWB_new.pdf

That being said, I doubt it is very expensive for Mercedes to offer a model for a single market. The GLE is a unibody design with separate front- and rear-subframes, and the GLE Coupe already has a shorter wheelbase than the GLE SUV, so they clearly have an easily adjustable chassis. What I'm most curious is where the extra length is at... is it in the door, or the rear quarter-panel? I can't find a good image to put side-by-side to show the differences.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2023 | 09:44 AM
  #7  
Pappachoppers's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 78
Likes: 33
From: Medina Ohio
2022 GLE
Originally Posted by GordonGEICO
The weird thing about the LWB version is it's hard to actually find pictures that accurately show it. I was curious about this too at some point and when I poked around on the MB India website, everything there looked like it used photos/video of the regular GLE.

MB India GLE LWB page:
https://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/pass.../overview.html

Even the "eBrochure" reuses the dimensions sketch from a standard wheelbase GLE despite having "LWB" in the file name. Scroll to the bottom and you will see all of the specs are identical to a standard wheelbase GLE sold in the US (2995 mm or 117.9"):
https://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/cont...LE_LWB_new.pdf

That being said, I doubt it is very expensive for Mercedes to offer a model for a single market. The GLE is a unibody design with separate front- and rear-subframes, and the GLE Coupe already has a shorter wheelbase than the GLE SUV, so they clearly have an easily adjustable chassis. What I'm most curious is where the extra length is at... is it in the door, or the rear quarter-panel? I can't find a good image to put side-by-side to show the differences.
Thanks, And again we… No, you this time raised another issue. “What I'm most curious is where the extra length is at... ”. A cup of Starbucks (small) to anyone who knows?
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2023 | 10:36 PM
  #8  
BACnMercedes's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,364
Likes: 451
From: The Palmetto State
19 E63s, ‘24SQ8, wanting another gas guzzling V8
Is that a picture of the longer wheels base? The extra 3.14 inches? I’ve been told I’m not good at judge lengths.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 22, 2023 | 10:24 PM
  #9  
C280 Sport's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,829
Likes: 592
From: NY & FL
MB’s of all kinds.
Proof once again Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2023 | 10:25 PM
  #10  
C280 Sport's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,829
Likes: 592
From: NY & FL
MB’s of all kinds.
LWB GLE would be pretty cool to be honest! However when I first drove a new GLE I was amazed how much more rear seat room it has over the W166 ML/GLE
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2023 | 08:11 AM
  #11  
BACnMercedes's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,364
Likes: 451
From: The Palmetto State
19 E63s, ‘24SQ8, wanting another gas guzzling V8
Originally Posted by C280 Sport;[url=tel:8726606
8726606[/url]]However when I first drove a new GLE I was amazed how much more rear seat room it has over the W166 ML/GLE
I totally agree, the difference in room between the two was a nice selling point for me. Now, if they can just work on its reliability compared to the W166.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2023 | 11:39 AM
  #12  
btshep's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 184
Likes: 32
From: North Jersey
2020 GLE 580 | 2020 Ram 1500 Limited
https://www.indiatimes.com/amp/auto/...lp-505363.html

The take away from this article and all the other India centric automotive media sites is that it’s purely marketing on Mercedes-Benz India’s part. I spent the better part of close to an hour perusing multiple sites. In reality, there is no long wheel base GLE. All the dimensions are universal worldwide. Mercedes-Benz India has decided to market it as long wheelbase GLE as evidenced in the photos from the country’s auto shows where they have a plate on the front that says LWB GLE. The extra 3+ inches was only achieved when comparing it to the outgoing, third generation as the article states. It is merely a play on words comparing the V167 body to the W166.

Last edited by btshep; Feb 23, 2023 at 11:46 AM.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:29 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE