W205C43PFL

Well, at least you find the seats in the MB more comfortable, perhaps there are many things in the MB you like more than the Macan and the Cayenne? Maybe it was worth it in the end.

W205C43PFL

Well, you aren't the only one that went from MB to Cayenne: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...ml#post8757628

That said though, the other forum member never personally owned the current generation GLE, not saying therefore the two can't be compared just wanted to be clear.

Ron.s

I’ve owned both a 2020 GLE 450 & 2021 GLE 53…now a 2023 Cayenne GTS V8 (have driven some lower priced Porsches) so all three are different in too many ways to compare. There are a lot of little things that are different but here are a few larger ones:

Mercedes delivers more car for the money but with a lot less customization options. Porsche charges (plenty) for every option you select so it’s easy to add $20-40k+ over the base price.
Porsche Fit & Finish is better in my limited experience.
Porsche has a few more performance options like Rear Wheel Steer, Mechanical Torque Vectoring and Brake Torque Vectoring. My GTS has a performance button that adds a lot more HP for 30 seconds. I prefer the 8 speed Porsche that is buttery Smooth in Normal mode. Sport modes do a better job of automatically downshifting as needed so that you don’t encounter that hesitation while the transmission hesitates skipping a gear or two.
Mercedes EQ Boost is a nice way to eliminate Turbo Lag as well as the Electric Boost on the 53. The Porsche “Hot V” and tune eliminate Turbo Lag but probably not quite as well…although I don’t notice any difference. My GTS has about the same HP as the 53 but is much faster accelerating and the V8/Exhaust note is oh so sweet.
Porsche sits lower to the ground making for easy entry but has less head room making entry more of an exact science.
Mercedes with AMG trim (GLE 53 my Fav) is more roomy and much better looking, IMO. Porsches look a lot alike from prior Gens On the outside. The $200k Porsche Cayenne has unpainted wheel arch moldings and looks cheaper in some ways than lower priced models.
Splitting hairs, the Porsche with all the goodies handles a little better on curves than the AMG 53 but the Rear Wheel Steer takes time to like. Even though it’s an advantage in curves it’s a change in feel. I could easily have been happy with the GLE 450 handling until I experienced the others. Need it not really…
I got used to MBUX but it seemed like Mercedes was always working on the new version with several issues on the existing one. Porsche is different but much the same…working on the new version. It’s hard to believe that my wife’s Audi and my Porsche were related since they are completely different too. I recently bought a 2023 GMC Canyon with Android Automotive built in for the operating system. It’s very fast, simple and well designed out of the box. A lot less drill down to menu items and voice commands seem to always work. I have an Android phone so that might be a factor. Only two weeks in so I might find issues as time goes on.
IMO, there is no one vehicle that’s perfect for everyone. Porsche seems to have more Cachet than Mercedes among the masses. For the first time I’m more concerned about parking in large lots like a Mall. Keying a Porsche seems to be more of a “thing”, maybe a red one even more.
Issues don’t necessarily get better with the higher priced Porsche. Mine has been to the shop several times for component failure and Tech issues as did both of my Mercedes.
Edit: Forgot about one thing. Both of my Marc’s used no oil between 10k service intervals. Porsche uses all low tension piston rings and will use more oil on the V8’s…don’t know about 6’s. My Porsche has used 2.25 Quarts at 5500 miles-some as much as 1Q-1,000, some 1Q at 4000+.

irishbrahm

I had a '19 X5 50i that fully loaded except for the B&O. It was plenty sporty and fun, but lacking a bit in luxury and refinement. The '22 inch wheels led to a rough ride even with air suspension. And I must admit that I was scared that something would go wrong with the 4.4L (I had that engine before in a 550xi that burned a lot of oil).

jrd1487

I hve done hours an hours of research.. Am selling my 2017 GLE and just ordered the 2024 GLE. I pray I get good quality control. Thats always going to be a concern no matter what. But the GLE is so much more comfortable and luxurious. If the build is the good the car will be great for the 50K I plan on driving it. My 2020 S Class is the best is the best car I have ever owned, but am thinking praying my new GLE will take its place. Spec out it out right. Reasearch every option weigh the pros and cons and get least amount of potentially problematic options. Its a different ride altogether than the BMW. Classier in IMO, but it does come down to preference

W205C43PFL

Well, the facelift GLE looks pretty good too, but looks are subjective.

cometguy

I'm considering the 2024 GLE 450e. Most people compare this with the BMW X5 xDrive x50 (crazy appellation), but I won't consider the X5 because of the placement of climate controls in the touchscreen (and it's much less configurable on factory special-order in terms of options). So my main shopping comparison is with the 2024 Cayenne E-Hybrid, which is superior in almost all ways to the GLE 450e except for three key ways: (1) it gets 20+ fewer all-electric miles than does the GLE 450e; (2) it does not offer fast-DC-charging like the GLE 450e does; and (3) from my personal optioning (for special-ordering), I can get a GLE 450e for $20k-$25k USD less than I can get a Cayenne E-Hybrid for. Those three exceptions are all huge in my book and might tip me to getting the GLE 450e after planning to special-order a 2024 Cayenne E-Hybrid for a year or more now. Mercedes reliability is perhaps my biggest concern at this stage.

Ron.s

If you haven’t done it hop over to Rennlist and check out the stop sale info. I think it/s the Cayenne E Hybrid that has been held up for a couple of months…now looking like early 2024 for deliveries if I remember correctly.

Here’s a link recent post: https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...l#post19108370

cometguy

Yep, I've been following that closely, and it's giving me huge pause and making the GLE 450e look more enticing.
But I've owned three Porsches (and no MBs) and I'm familiar with and comfortable with Porsches, and I've had no big problems in my years of Porsche ownership. So I guess there's something to be said for not feeling so uneasy with things you're familiar with, and being more worried about things that you aren't so familiar with.
That said, I might hold off and go for the new version of the Cayenne E-Hybrid in a couple of years, after they get some of the kinks out, and try out the GLE 450e for a year or two to see how I like it.

mikapen

Why a GLE over an x5?
It's those Nostrils.
And Chris Bangle, who has fled to Italy.

chrislk55

LOL, My last BMW was a 2002 M5 (E39). They just kept getting uglier and uglier as the years went by thanks to Bangle. The nostrils sure have grown since 2002 !

Ron.s

Well put…🤮

BlueYonder

I thought this guy designed the new BMW's

Vyper340vb

Just get both