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As you have set out - your W164 SUV in your case not having the expense of costly, premature tire replacement.
Can assure over last 10 years of producing front and rear Camber adjuster kits for the W164 and W166 you are very fortunate as many owners do encounter “camber change” through above listed situations of other then light loads, non cambered roads.
Then the frustration of learning there is only one factory “showroom height” Camber setting and having therefore to prematurely fund new tires !!
As you have set out - your W164 SUV in your case not having the expense of costly, premature tire replacement.
Can assure over last 10 years of producing front and rear Camber adjuster kits for the W164 and W166 you are very fortunate as many owners do encounter “camber change” through above listed situations of other then light loads, non cambered roads.
Then the frustration of learning there is only one factory “showroom height” Camber setting and having therefore to prematurely fund new tires !!
This is a 167 forum, not 164.
As I posted above, the inside wear doesn't seem to be an issue with the 167.
My 164 inner wear showed up at 33,000 miles, which is a long life for the tires I use and a 5,200# car. I often tow a 27' RV, a bit over GVWR and payload. On cambered roads. Your worst case.
Nowhere near "costly, premature tire replacement."
It's not a swingarm suspension, and there is very little camber change through it's movement.
Even if there were camber change, how could your product eliminate it?
Is it "new math?"
Hi - Manufacturing Front and Rear Camber adjuster kits AUDI to VOLVO - trying to keep up with new model releases is hectic.
But over weekend having both front and rear suspensions did find time to check all W164, 166 and current 167 front “arms” re lengths !
All are virtually identical with top arms half length of lower. Hence same Camber change on “W176”. Going on sales, feedback last 10 years there’s certainly demand for both front and rear Camber adjustment for owners that need other then the OEM one offset / showroom height position.
Not only load carrying or being able to adjust resolve passenger side wear through high cambered roads, curb knock damage. Also many owners that do not go “offroad” and lower their vehicles height / roll center for improved handling / safety.
Re your inquiry - Camber change, new math:
Background is we started manufacturing bolt-on Camber adjuster kits back in 1960’s initially for the taxi industry. Premature replacement of tires being a major cost factor.
Then in the 1980’s seriously involved taking on the role of inventing manufacturing for over 40 makes because with the ever increasing “speed of new car assembly lines” - more and more manufacturers deleting adjustment.
With the situation today where the often quoted, reassuring statement “will carry out a Full front and rear alignment” - IS NOW ONLY BASIC TOE “DIRECTIONAL” ADJUSTMENT. The onus back on owners to fund premature tire replacement.
If you check out our website “ABOUT US” - all the major design breakthroughs / Patents last 30 years re adjuster kits have been by K-MAC. Yet a small company / not a corporation funding our own extensive R&D. Also proudly with IN-HOUSE manufacture / not sourcing imports !
Kevin
AUDI to VOLVO - K-MAC Experience Of Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings Since 1964 !
2022 GLE 450 with 22” staggered rims, tire wear is terrible!
I’m having to replace my tires about every 10,000 miles or less. We have around 19000mi on the car and will be buying another set pretty soon. I’ve had Pirrelli and Michelin, the Michelin may last a little longer than the Pirrelli’s but not much. At $3000 a set, this is ridiculous.
I’m having to replace my tires about every 10,000 miles or less. We have around 19000mi on the car and will be buying another set pretty soon. I’ve had Pirrelli and Michelin, the Michelin may last a little longer than the Pirrelli’s but not much. At $3000 a set, this is ridiculous.
I have over 28k miles on my 21" staggered Pirellii Scorpion Zero *** and they're good for another few thousand. Do you have Summer tires? If so, you might want to switch to All Seasons.
I’m having to replace my tires about every 10,000 miles or less. We have around 19000mi on the car and will be buying another set pretty soon. I’ve had Pirrelli and Michelin, the Michelin may last a little longer than the Pirrelli’s but not much. At $3000 a set, this is ridiculous.
If you have high performance summer tires, depending on your driving style, that kind of wear is not unusual. Especially if you drive the vehicle when temps are below 45°. I had a friend in Maryland with high performance summer tires that he drove in the winter, he actually lost chunks of tread.
2021 GLE450 20 inch tires 21000 miles perili scorpion zero all weather so far great tires. They will easy make it to 30000+ miles will probably replace with same brand and tire when the time comes.
I have the OEM 20' Bridgestone Alenza 275/50R 20 tires. Run Flat. Don't I "need" to keep using the same tires? I hate them. The tread life is no more than 12.000miles. I do rotate the tires but Front tires chew faster.
Is there a certain Pattern rotation I must choose?
I have seen some 450 using the pirellis and wonder if you just hope wont get a flat tire.
Its a pain for me to keep two set of tires and changing swapping them when I do long trips.
Any advise is greatly appreciated
I have the OEM 20' Bridgestone Alenza 275/50R 20 tires. Run Flat. Don't I "need" to keep using the same tires? I hate them. The tread life is no more than 12.000miles. I do rotate the tires but Front tires chew faster.
Is there a certain Pattern rotation I must choose?
I have seen some 450 using the pirellis and wonder if you just hope wont get a flat tire.
Its a pain for me to keep two set of tires and changing swapping them when I do long trips.
Any advise is greatly appreciated
Mine came with a Donut spare ask your dealer or go to Big O tires or whatever shop you use for tires and wheels and get a spare put under cargo area. Or carry a can of fix a flat tire on long trips and have Triple A. Pirelli Zero are the way to go love my second set no issues tried run flats on my GLC 300 never again will I buy run flats give the ride a harsh ride.
Mine came with a Donut spare ask your dealer or go to Big O tires or whatever shop you use for tires and wheels and get a spare put under cargo area. Or carry a can of fix a flat tire on long trips and have Triple A. Pirelli Zero are the way to go love my second set no issues tried run flats on my GLC 300 never again will I buy run flats give the ride a harsh ride.
Thank you very much. A simpler way is always the best way!!
21 staggered AS just changed out at 33k with 3/32 left.
can someone comment whether the rear tires are supposed to pop out a little bit from the side vs being totally in line to the front tires? From memory before the tire change, I thought the rears were wider out and it was quite obvious before though can’t remember exactly
I have the OEM 20' Bridgestone Alenza 275/50R 20 tires. Run Flat. Don't I "need" to keep using the same tires? I hate them. The tread life is no more than 12.000miles. I do rotate the tires but Front tires chew faster.
Is there a certain Pattern rotation I must choose?
I have seen some 450 using the pirellis and wonder if you just hope wont get a flat tire.
Its a pain for me to keep two set of tires and changing swapping them when I do long trips.
Any advise is greatly appreciated
As BenMB says, get Michelin or Pirelli non-runflats and a space saver spare. If you have third row seating (assume if yours came with runflats) then there is no storage space for the spare, but you can throw it in the cargo area for trips. Your ride quality will improve.
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