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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 12:59 PM
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I guess it is intentional so you can see the surroundings when you have stopped. The only way other than probably coding is to disable PARKTRONIC (so pressing PARKTRONIC off) to prevent this from happening but not ideal. The main annoying part is the sound it makes when it pops out every stop.
That's the thing - you don't see anything anyway, because the screen doesn't show cameras.

In the older model years the camera opens when you approach something and the screens show the view from the camera. In the newer model years, the camera opens when you slow down but what for?? You don't see the camera view on the screens anyway.
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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mykel79
That's the thing - you don't see anything anyway, because the screen doesn't show cameras.

In the older model years the camera opens when you approach something and the screens show the view from the camera. In the newer model years, the camera opens when you slow down but what for?? You don't see the camera view on the screens anyway.
Ya strange change by MB, I guess in the case of the coupe with the star popping out, it is to tell the other driver in the rear to maintain distance?
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 11:01 AM
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I had not noticed it till now, but yeah, after paying attention, I do hear the camera activating when slowing to a stop etc. Not a big bother for me, personally, but essentially something that's adding to the white noise in the background.

The only reason I can think of, is that when you punch the camera-view button in the car, it does show the 360deg view, which I assume is only possible if the rear camera is activated.

As opposed to punching the button, and then the lag involved in the camera popping out and activating, before the view comes onto the screen.

Weak excuse I know, but just a thought. Either way, I am a longevity guy (keep my cars for 10+ years, and 200K+ miles), and I personally do not feel this pop-out/pop-in is good for longevity, unless they have specifically engineered/tested it for millions of actuations.

I would like to hear back from Mercedes on the thought process that led them to do this change in how the camera actuates. Let's hear it from the horse's mouth, before speculating.
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
I had not noticed it till now, but yeah, after paying attention, I do hear the camera activating when slowing to a stop etc. Not a big bother for me, personally, but essentially something that's adding to the white noise in the background.

The only reason I can think of, is that when you punch the camera-view button in the car, it does show the 360deg view, which I assume is only possible if the rear camera is activated.

As opposed to punching the button, and then the lag involved in the camera popping out and activating, before the view comes onto the screen.

Weak excuse I know, but just a thought. Either way, I am a longevity guy (keep my cars for 10+ years, and 200K+ miles), and I personally do not feel this pop-out/pop-in is good for longevity, unless they have specifically engineered/tested it for millions of actuations.

I would like to hear back from Mercedes on the thought process that led them to do this change in how the camera actuates. Let's hear it from the horse's mouth, before speculating.
I wonder if we can install some sort of insulation that might further drown off the noise? I understand if it wasn't an SUV it wouldn't be as loud, like if sedan, the sound is covered when the trunk is closed and seats are up. Same reason why exhaust is louder in a wagon, because of the open concept design, the sound is more audible in the cabin for example.
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 04:17 AM
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Yeah the sound can be annoying but the camera view is clear and not obscured by rain or dust.
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 04:30 AM
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Yeah the sound can be annoying but the camera view is clear and not obscured by rain or dust.
That's not the problem. The problem is that the camera pops out every time you slow down, even when the camera view isn't shown on the screen.
My 2022 GLE doesn't do this. The camera only pops out when you're close to an obstacle and the 360 view shows up on the screens.

No one seems to know why Mercedes changed the behavior and why the camera needs to pop out if it's not doing anything (showing the view on the screens). This happens on all the newer GLE's as well as other models I've driven as loaners (GLA, GLB).
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mykel79
That's not the problem. The problem is that the camera pops out every time you slow down, even when the camera view isn't shown on the screen.
My 2022 GLE doesn't do this. The camera only pops out when you're close to an obstacle and the 360 view shows up on the screens.

No one seems to know why Mercedes changed the behavior and why the camera needs to pop out if it's not doing anything (showing the view on the screens). This happens on all the newer GLE's as well as other models I've driven as loaners (GLA, GLB).
Mercedes needs to explain why they did this change. I don't think Mercedes woke up one morning, and decided to change things on a whim, just for the heck of it.

If I were to guess, by making this change, the Mercedes engineers are solving some - as yet unexplained - deficiency (in the pre-facelift GLEs, like the 2022 GLE referenced above). But they need to explain why this change was made, to prevent further internet speculation (like the highlighted section above).
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaPapa
Yeah the sound can be annoying but the camera view is clear and not obscured by rain or dust.
Ya because that cover helps protect the camera fron the elements and I mean I do appreciate that especially having a crystal clear/clean backup camera in the winter, the w222 s class even have a front cover for the front camera. The problem is it shouldn't pop out every stop, the slightly older mbs don't do that it is a weird change.
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
I had not noticed it till now, but yeah, after paying attention, I do hear the camera activating when slowing to a stop etc. Not a big bother for me, personally, but essentially something that's adding to the white noise in the background.

The only reason I can think of, is that when you punch the camera-view button in the car, it does show the 360deg view, which I assume is only possible if the rear camera is activated.

As opposed to punching the button, and then the lag involved in the camera popping out and activating, before the view comes onto the screen.

Weak excuse I know, but just a thought. Either way, I am a longevity guy (keep my cars for 10+ years, and 200K+ miles), and I personally do not feel this pop-out/pop-in is good for longevity, unless they have specifically engineered/tested it for millions of actuations.

I would like to hear back from Mercedes on the thought process that led them to do this change in how the camera actuates. Let's hear it from the horse's mouth, before speculating.
Well there is that trend of motorized cameras on smartphone in 2019? 2020? The main concern was it failing for those who keep their phones for a long time, although it was proven (I guess) it does last a long time and can even survive drops, the trend I guess fad... died down.
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
Mercedes needs to explain why they did this change. I don't think Mercedes woke up one morning, and decided to change things on a whim, just for the heck of it.

If I were to guess, by making this change, the Mercedes engineers are solving some - as yet unexplained - deficiency (in the pre-facelift GLEs, like the 2022 GLE referenced above). But they need to explain why this change was made, to prevent further internet speculation (like the highlighted section above).
Ya exactly, we can't be the only customers noticing this.
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 01:16 PM
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I suspect the reason some experience and some do not is due to different configurations. Does anyone who experiences this have Distronic package?
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 01:29 PM
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Like I've said multiple times before in several of these threads, I'm pretty sure it's the Active Parking Assist function that's doing it. Everyone just kept saying its calibrating though.

When you find an area that you would like to park in, simply drive at below twenty mph. Your active parking assist feature will automatically engage itself at those speeds to find a spot. A blue “P” icon will light up on your trip computer when your vehicle is actively searching.
https://www.mbscottsdale.com/blog/le...-benz-vehicle/
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 02:06 PM
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I'm not sure that it's the Active Parking Assist. I can turn Active Parking Assist (APA) off under the settings menu, the blue "P" icon goes away, but the camera still pops out at 15 mph (not the 20 mph described in the APA literature).

Incredibly annoying.

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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 02:11 PM
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Both my cars ('20 GLE450, '25 GLE53) had Active Parking Assist and neither did that. I was thinking that maybe some option in the Driver's Assistance Package or Distronic prevents that from happening

Originally Posted by GreasedFolgore
Like I've said multiple times before in several of these threads, I'm pretty sure it's the Active Parking Assist function that's doing it. Everyone just kept saying its calibrating though.


https://www.mbscottsdale.com/blog/le...-benz-vehicle/
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tommyr
Both my cars ('20 GLE450, '25 GLE53) had Active Parking Assist and neither did that. I was thinking that maybe some option in the Driver's Assistance Package or Distronic prevents that from happening
I always thought it was part of the PARKTRONIC system but pretty much all GLEs nowadays have that so if some are not doing it (especially being 2025 GLE) it is not that. That said, disabling PARKTRONIC should still theoretically stop it from popping out every stop but then you need to be careful and not forget that the car is not looking for obstacles for you.
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 01:24 PM
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Do you have to calibrate once or every time you start the car?

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Got my 2024 GLE 450 last week. At first I thought it was a weird transmission noise until I found this thread. There is a fix out there that I tried and it works!

find a straight road where you’ll have no stops for ~1 minute. Drive forward (and straight <10 degree steering angle) and set your cruise control to 15 mph. I did this, this morning, and it stopped the camera popping out all the time. Supposedly it needs this uninterrupted data to calibrate the camera properly…

here is the fix pdf from an older thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...n-3235_001.pdf
Is this a one-time fix or do you have to calibrate rear camera each time you start car?
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 01:33 PM
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Is this a one-time fix or do you have to calibrate rear camera each time you start car?
hi like you I found this “fix” & yes it “works” however only for that journey. So not a one time fix.
If you turn off the car for more than say 15mins it’s back to calibration. In addition this “fix” as per the note doesn’t work in the dark plus needs all the other requirements all lined up ie no car behind, drive straight
In short it’s ridiculous & must be a design failure. Given that this issue has been on posts since 2023 & it’s now 2025. I think MB have no desire to fix it
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 01:41 PM
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Nick O'Leary (https://m.youtube.com/@npoleary) mentioned the following to me:
"So I actually spoke to Mercedes about this as I’ve noticed it too. Previously it was mentioned that it popped out to expose the image ready to show on screen. However I’ve been informed now that all new models may do this and it’s actually part of a calibration process. Now this calibration process isn’t for the camera or camera housing. It’s for some of the safety systems at the rear of the car. Although Mercedes didn’t disclose what safety systems they are, I’m assuming it’s “Drive Away Assist” or Crossing traffic” or maybe “Active Blind Spot Assist” calibration."
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wildta
Nick O'Leary (https://m.youtube.com/@npoleary) mentioned the following to me:
"So I actually spoke to Mercedes about this as I’ve noticed it too. Previously it was mentioned that it popped out to expose the image ready to show on screen. However I’ve been informed now that all new models may do this and it’s actually part of a calibration process. Now this calibration process isn’t for the camera or camera housing. It’s for some of the safety systems at the rear of the car. Although Mercedes didn’t disclose what safety systems they are, I’m assuming it’s “Drive Away Assist” or Crossing traffic” or maybe “Active Blind Spot Assist” calibration."
Hi I did read this also however re the idea it’s some type of safety system. As per the previous post it is possible to “calibrate” the camera under the very specific circumstances that MB state. So drive, in day light, in a straight line, for around 1-2mins under 16mph, with no car behind. Then the camera will disappear.
So I fail to see how this can be a safety system. Sure if the camera was always out & somehow monitoring “cross traffic” or helping with “blind spot monitoring” etc however as I say if the camera does calibrate. It ain’t coming out again unless you choose reverse or park. So at junctions when stationary it’s not dropped down.

If it was for safely then surely it wouldn’t disappear.
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Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:12 PM
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Chiming in to say I just had a 2025 GLA loaner and the camera popping in and out legitimately drove me nuts for the 2 days that I had it. What's weird is that I don't remember this being the case with the 2024 CLA and 2024 GLC300 that I also had over the last month (dealer failed to fix my issue the first and second time I brought my car in).

What's weird is that it would eventually stop doing it during the day but it was constant at night. I assume it eventually calibrated itself during the day but this is simply ridiculous. There's got to be a better way. I noticed the camera going in and out correlated with the car scanning for parking spots so I thought it was related to that system, even if my own car didn't exhibit the same behavior.

Originally Posted by GreasedFolgore
Like I've said multiple times before in several of these threads, I'm pretty sure it's the Active Parking Assist function that's doing it. Everyone just kept saying its calibrating though.


https://www.mbscottsdale.com/blog/le...-benz-vehicle/
I was thinking it was related to this system too.

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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 09:25 AM
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So I just took delivery of a 2024 GLE450 CPO and am kicking myself for not doing more research on this car. Didn't notice it on the test drive, was mostly paying attention to the changes in the overall feel and look of the system going from a 2023 to a 2024. This will absolutely be my LAST Mercedes product.
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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 09:31 AM
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So I just took delivery of a 2024 GLE450 CPO and am kicking myself for not doing more research on this car. Didn't notice it on the test drive, was mostly paying attention to the changes in the overall feel and look of the system going from a 2023 to a 2024. This will absolutely be my LAST Mercedes product.
I mean, that is pretty extreme to be the last MB product just because of the camera popping out, it is a design flaw but not a mechanical or safety issue that will leave you stranded. We are hoping MB stops this behaviour with an update.
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I mean, that is pretty extreme to be the last MB product just because of the camera popping out, it is a design flaw but not a mechanical or safety issue that will leave you stranded. We are hoping MB stops this behaviour with an update.
The dealer sold me a car with a known defect. From everything I've read, MB has responded with nonsense ranging from it's a calibration process to it's a safety feature so you know the camera is open. Obvious corporate BS for the purpose of covering their ***. Thank you sir may I please have another.
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The dealer sold me a car with a known defect. From everything I've read, MB has responded with nonsense ranging from it's a calibration process to it's a safety feature so you know the camera is open. Obvious corporate BS for the purpose of covering their ***. Thank you sir may I please have another.
I see, I mean if you are dissatisfied you have every right to lemon law it and go a different brand. Do you have which vehicle to replace it in mind?
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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 01:17 PM
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I see, I mean if you are dissatisfied you have every right to lemon law it and go a different brand. Do you have which vehicle to replace it in mind?
No other brand in mind, I really want Mercedes to address this and find a resolution. And quit treating customers like we're stupid. Tell me it's a known concern and corporate is working on a fix. I'm can accept that.
As I've stated in the past, MB builds a great car but their software people leave a lot to be desired.
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