Will there be a new generation of the GLE?
11-02-2023, 10:54 PM
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Yep, that’s the vehicle to Grid concept. Charge your EV at night when there’s excess capacity and electricity is cheap. Sell sell some back to the utility during peak demand when it’s expensive and offset the cost of charging it at night.
Is anyone actually doing that yet? Are they mandating it or are they incentivizing it? Don’t like the concept of a mandate, but I do like the concept of incentivizing consumers to sell some of that excess capacity in their battery back to the utility during peak demand.
11-03-2023, 02:50 AM
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Jesus H Christ. Filling up a car like a GLS/GLE once in gosh knows how many days is something that troubles you? Get a life.
I've owned two Tesla S Models and now own a EQS. They are go nowhere cars other than regional cars. EQS to soon be history come Jan '24.
I've owned two Tesla S Models and now own a EQS. They are go nowhere cars other than regional cars. EQS to soon be history come Jan '24.
11-03-2023, 09:15 AM
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The United States was energy independent and a net exporter of fossil fuels until the current administration shut down production in the name of climate change. The power and influence OPEC has was handed to them on a silver platter in 2021.
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11-03-2023, 09:45 AM
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California has some of the most expensive electricity in the lower 48. California has inadequate power supply at times and has no consequential new sources of additional electricity generation planned. California had to postpone the shutdown of a Nuclear Plant because of the lack of supply. They are mandating BEV’s with no discernible source of new Electricity except to purchase it from an outside source…if it’s available. Discussing charging an EV at off peak power rates as any solution gives me a headache…because the off peak power is too expensive…because it’s California.
No sane person with any sense of the Financial outcome makes these lopsided decisions with their money. It’s not about the BEV being better or worse than an ICE. It’s about making decisions without solutions…decisions that have consequences.
11-03-2023, 11:23 AM
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That’s a good point and we aren’t subsidizing Fossil by any normal definition, just the opposite. By limiting supply we have placed a premium on Fossil at the expense of US citizens. in the US. We are subsidizing the mandated Ethanol addition.
California has some of the most expensive electricity in the lower 48. California has inadequate power supply at times and has no consequential new sources of additional electricity generation planned. California had to postpone the shutdown of a Nuclear Plant because of the lack of supply. They are mandating BEV’s with no discernible source of new Electricity except to purchase it from an outside source…if it’s available. Discussing charging an EV at off peak power rates as any solution gives me a headache…because the off peak power is too expensive…because it’s California.
No sane person with any sense of the Financial outcome makes these lopsided decisions with their money. It’s not about the BEV being better or worse than an ICE. It’s about making decisions without solutions…decisions that have consequences.
California has some of the most expensive electricity in the lower 48. California has inadequate power supply at times and has no consequential new sources of additional electricity generation planned. California had to postpone the shutdown of a Nuclear Plant because of the lack of supply. They are mandating BEV’s with no discernible source of new Electricity except to purchase it from an outside source…if it’s available. Discussing charging an EV at off peak power rates as any solution gives me a headache…because the off peak power is too expensive…because it’s California.
No sane person with any sense of the Financial outcome makes these lopsided decisions with their money. It’s not about the BEV being better or worse than an ICE. It’s about making decisions without solutions…decisions that have consequences.
11-03-2023, 02:51 PM
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That’s a good point and we aren’t subsidizing Fossil by any normal definition, just the opposite. By limiting supply we have placed a premium on Fossil at the expense of US citizens. in the US. We are subsidizing the mandated Ethanol addition.
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No sane person with any sense of the Financial outcome makes these lopsided decisions with their money. It’s not about the BEV being better or worse than an ICE. It’s about making decisions without solutions…decisions that have consequences.
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No sane person with any sense of the Financial outcome makes these lopsided decisions with their money. It’s not about the BEV being better or worse than an ICE. It’s about making decisions without solutions…decisions that have consequences.
Makes you wonder if they are really that inept, or are they trying to dissuade us from buying their sworn enemy, the ICE.
(Don't let the voters know.)(Thanks, media!)
11-03-2023, 09:31 PM
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If it was—that’s not what I said . I said recharging my Tesla and having it fully charged in my garage with temp at 70 deg when I get it it every morning for my 130 mile round trip commute is more convenient (for me) than having to stop at a Costco every 3 days and fill up.
That is my opinion/experience, you may agree with it or not.
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11-03-2023, 10:30 PM
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Will be interesting to see how this "pilot" plays out.
11-03-2023, 10:55 PM
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Demand for petroleum is relatively inelastic in the short term. It's not a true market, oil is a strategic asset that is controlled by Nation States that do not share strategic interests.
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11-04-2023, 12:03 AM
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Interesting, so they are paying $2/KWh to purchase electricity during peak demand/emergencies. So if you could spare/sell 10 KWh (~30 miles of EV range), that would likely cover the cost to fully recharge the battery overnight where there is excess grid capacity.
Will be interesting to see how this "pilot" plays out.
Will be interesting to see how this "pilot" plays out.
https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/...reas_table.htm
11-04-2023, 12:21 AM
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San Diegans have the highest kW costs in the country, only second to Hawaii.
https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/...reas_table.htm
https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/...reas_table.htm
11-04-2023, 02:01 AM
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Seems to me this pilot, like most similar ones around the world, is more about proving the concept and learning than making a financial case. There’s other similar exercises in several parts of the world.
11-04-2023, 01:48 PM
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Instead of being a forced adoption, with this being the first planned step.
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11-04-2023, 09:44 PM
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I have a 2020 GLE350, but I leased my 89 year old father the EV equivalent, the 2023 EQE350+. He's mainly a commuter and he loves the instant power to accelerate in traffic and I love the fact is doesn't allow him to run off the road or into someone else. It's a tight car and easy to drive, but I don't care for the exterior and interior styling. I understand the need to improve aerodynamics and save weight, but the exterior is bland and the interior is cheap-feeling and plasticy.
I think MB is making a serious mistake in using the same interiors in their EV and ICE models. It's the main reason I bought a 2023 E450 Cabriolet before they are discontinued in favor of the new CLE models with that ugly interior. Maybe they're figuring that out, though. I just saw an advertisement for the new GLB EV and they've retained the SUV styling similar to what we have with our GLE's.
The EV's have a place in today's market, but until improvements in battery technology and charging infrastructure take place, they'll never be able to replace the ICE marketplace.
I think MB is making a serious mistake in using the same interiors in their EV and ICE models. It's the main reason I bought a 2023 E450 Cabriolet before they are discontinued in favor of the new CLE models with that ugly interior. Maybe they're figuring that out, though. I just saw an advertisement for the new GLB EV and they've retained the SUV styling similar to what we have with our GLE's.
The EV's have a place in today's market, but until improvements in battery technology and charging infrastructure take place, they'll never be able to replace the ICE marketplace.
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11-04-2023, 10:56 PM
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I can't stand the interior of the MB EVs. It's like stepping into a consumer electronics show instead of an automobile. Not to mention the piped in "Jetsons" sound and the giant Petri dish hyper screen. In all fairness I'm sure MB would rather build exciting cars like they used to. But alas they are beholden to EU regulations which in turn get their marching orders from the WEF.
