GLE Class (V167) Produced 2020 to present

Starter battery low. Drive for 30-60 minutes?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 06-02-2024, 11:35 AM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
lower14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2014 GL350, 2008 535i
Starter battery low. Drive for 30-60 minutes?

Wife got an email ostensibly from Mercedes saying the starter battery charge status was low and that she needed to drive for 30-60 minutes.

is this legit/normal to get these messages from Mercedes and if so, is this something people have seen in the past?
Old 06-02-2024, 12:06 PM
  #2  
Super Member
 
taphil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 525
Received 192 Likes on 148 Posts
2024 GLE63s, 2021 E63s, 2018 GLC43
Yes. It says what it means. Happens if car has been sitting for a while or if doors and lights open for extended time like when car is getting serviced or detailed. If it happens more often or after doing what it says, the battery may be dying and needs replacement.
Old 06-02-2024, 12:16 PM
  #3  
Member
 
FireRx Captain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: southwest US
Posts: 167
Received 24 Likes on 20 Posts
2020 GLE 350 4Matic, 2016 E350
I often wondered about that. My Mercedes App always shows my battery partially charged. instead of "Okay" like everything else it checks.
Old 06-02-2024, 01:26 PM
  #4  
Super Member
 
hutch300's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 844
Received 103 Likes on 51 Posts
2022 GLE450
I hate the partially charged in the app. I have a trickle charger for when I don't plan to drive it much or have not driven it much.
Old 06-02-2024, 02:41 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
Sparky66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 56
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
V167
Partially charged

Originally Posted by FireRx Captain
I often wondered about that. My Mercedes App always shows my battery partially charged. instead of "Okay" like everything else it checks.
Any longer than the day after I have put a charger on it it reads partially charged. I have yet to see the "starter battery low - drive for xxx" message though. I asked the SA about "partially charged" in the app when it was in for service and he said it was fine. He told me not to worry about it unless it gives a message in the car. I did drive it afterwards with the workshop enabled and it reads 14.9V and shows it charging during the drive. Whenever I check voltage after it has been parked it is about 12.2V. After being charged it will read 12.8V. I use to have a 21 450 and on the information screen it showed the battery voltage with the HP and Torque but the AMG does not display the voltage on that same screen for some reason.
The following users liked this post:
FireRx Captain (06-02-2024)
Old 06-02-2024, 03:33 PM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
wildta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,617
Received 596 Likes on 442 Posts
MB
Originally Posted by Sparky66
Any longer than the day after I have put a charger on it it reads partially charged. I have yet to see the "starter battery low - drive for xxx" message though. I asked the SA about "partially charged" in the app when it was in for service and he said it was fine. He told me not to worry about it unless it gives a message in the car. I did drive it afterwards with the workshop enabled and it reads 14.9V and shows it charging during the drive. Whenever I check voltage after it has been parked it is about 12.2V. After being charged it will read 12.8V. I use to have a 21 450 and on the information screen it showed the battery voltage with the HP and Torque but the AMG does not display the voltage on that same screen for some reason.
I've been traveling for around 4 weeks and mine still says partially charged even though it's on a 4A charger. I know it's fully charged though because the battery meter always says 14.1v or around there upon my return from long trips. Showing actual volts and only notifying low battery when close to the point where you can't start it, would be a lot better. The partially charged label is pretty useless. I just sent them a comment about this using this email:
me-connect.usa@cac.mercedes-benz.com





Last edited by wildta; 06-02-2024 at 03:43 PM.
The following users liked this post:
FireRx Captain (06-02-2024)
Old 06-02-2024, 08:26 PM
  #7  
Newbie
 
PieCES71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2024
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
GLE350 2020
Originally Posted by lower14
Wife got an email ostensibly from Mercedes saying the starter battery charge status was low and that she needed to drive for 30-60 minutes.

is this legit/normal to get these messages from Mercedes and if so, is this something people have seen in the past?
I have a GLE35 2020, 46K Miles. You battery is dying and driving around won’t fix it. Got this message 2 months ago, then a month later battery died and had to be replaced. Warning, you can’t change it yourself, the battery is under the drivers seat which must be removed. Recommend you schedule a service appt. When I finally had to jump-start my GLE we took it to service and they confirmed it was end-of-life. Hope this helps you
Old 06-02-2024, 08:32 PM
  #8  
Member
 
FireRx Captain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: southwest US
Posts: 167
Received 24 Likes on 20 Posts
2020 GLE 350 4Matic, 2016 E350
Originally Posted by wildta
I've been traveling for around 4 weeks and mine still says partially charged even though it's on a 4A charger. I know it's fully charged though because the battery meter always says 14.1v or around there upon my return from long trips. Showing actual volts and only notifying low battery when close to the point where you can't start it, would be a lot better. The partially charged label is pretty useless. I just sent them a comment about this using this email:
me-connect.usa@cac.mercedes-benz.com


Okay, this seem to be a common thing. so I won't worry as much. Thanks for the info guys
Old 06-03-2024, 08:29 AM
  #9  
Super Member
 
jtjbt20x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 547
Received 142 Likes on 111 Posts
2021 GLE450W4 SUV
Yes. Try using a trickle charger.
Old 06-03-2024, 08:43 AM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
streborx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,967
Received 947 Likes on 724 Posts
G550
Drive the car for 60 minutes to charge the battery -- nobody can say MB lacks a sense of humor.
Old 06-03-2024, 11:06 AM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
mikapen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 4,745
Received 1,577 Likes on 1,159 Posts
'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
Originally Posted by streborx
Drive the car for 60 minutes to charge the battery -- nobody can say MB lacks a sense of humor.
No matter the car, brand or type of battery, that's what it takes to recharge a battery.

If you ignore the "partially charged" warning, you're shortening the battery life.
If you wait until you see "critical," you're approaching not being able to start the car and you have hurt the battery. You need to charge immediately if you're critical.

A point to make, again for all cars, is that if you only make short trips, you will be gradually discharging the battery. It's also hard on the engine because you don't get it fully warmed up. True for all cars.

Add the additional load of being in the listening mode at all times - waiting for downloads, waiting for you to approach with your key, reporting back to Mercedes Me - there are a lot more electrical demands going on while car is just parked.

Someone earlier mentioned a trickle charger. That's another No-No. You need a battery maintainer, which senses state of charge of the battery and will stop charging when it's full.
Trickle chargers will just reach overcharge and continue to overcharge, shortening your battery life on that side of the equation.

IMO it's not funny when I have to replace a battery that should last 7 or 8 years, but I've killed it in three.
Just saying....
The following 2 users liked this post by mikapen:
BlueYonder (06-03-2024), DavidBN (06-07-2024)
Old 06-03-2024, 11:13 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
BlueYonder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: SWFL
Posts: 400
Received 192 Likes on 132 Posts
2024 GLE 450, 2015 X5 35d, 2009 SLK 300
Get one of these to maintain your battery.

https://www.victronenergy.com/charge...t-ip65-charger

$130 on Amazon for the 10a version

The following users liked this post:
mikapen (06-03-2024)
Old 06-03-2024, 11:35 AM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
mikapen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 4,745
Received 1,577 Likes on 1,159 Posts
'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
Originally Posted by BlueYonder
Get one of these to maintain your battery.

https://www.victronenergy.com/charge...t-ip65-charger

$130 on Amazon for the 10a version
This is what Mercedes rebrands and sells through parts. I have two and rotate them to 'those in need.'
CTEK - 40-206 MXS 5.0 Fully Automatic 4.3 amp Battery Charger and Maintainer 12V
https://a.co/d/fap6Y4w
Old 06-03-2024, 12:10 PM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
streborx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,967
Received 947 Likes on 724 Posts
G550
Originally Posted by mikapen
No matter the car, brand or type of battery, that's what it takes to recharge a battery.

If you ignore the "partially charged" warning, you're shortening the battery life.
If you wait until you see "critical," you're approaching not being able to start the car and you have hurt the battery. You need to charge immediately if you're critical.

A point to make, again for all cars, is that if you only make short trips, you will be gradually discharging the battery. It's also hard on the engine because you don't get it fully warmed up. True for all cars.

Add the additional load of being in the listening mode at all times - waiting for downloads, waiting for you to approach with your key, reporting back to Mercedes Me - there are a lot more electrical demands going on while car is just parked.

Someone earlier mentioned a trickle charger. That's another No-No. You need a battery maintainer, which senses state of charge of the battery and will stop charging when it's full.
Trickle chargers will just reach overcharge and continue to overcharge, shortening your battery life on that side of the equation.

IMO it's not funny when I have to replace a battery that should last 7 or 8 years, but I've killed it in three.
Just saying....
Somewhat misleading, unless you're talking about the 48V battery. The 12V battery can be charged via the terminals located in the engine compartment. Even the 12V batteries don't fully charge, even after a long drive (I've read about 80% is the normal "full charge"). People tend to use the term "trickle charger" interchangeably with "maintainer", despite "maintainer" being the more accurate description for the preferred charging method. Any one of several quality "maintainer" brands will do the job if they have an AGM setting (which most 12V batteries now are). I have several Noco maintainers (1A and 2A) and a Noco 10A charger. All work just fine keeping the 12V batteries in all my vehicles charged when necessary, no matter if it's only for a couple weeks or on my X7 that I store during the winter months. There's no question contemporary cars never sleep -- there's always a bit of keep alive current being drawn from the battery, and I suspect there are episodes of larger current consumption when the telematics and other systems periodically wake-up, even when the is parked and off.

All the car manufacturers try to keep owners ignorant of the batteries and charging requirements. Some vehicle brand 48V batteries can be charged through the 12V system, but only when the hood is raised (for whatever reason), while others apparently require regenerative braking. The funny part in this is that the 48V battery is part of the fuel saving mild hybrid technology, and the fuel savings evaporate when you're making hour-long battery charging trips once a week.
Old 06-03-2024, 02:10 PM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
GregW / Oregon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,584
Received 1,173 Likes on 844 Posts
2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
Originally Posted by lower14
Wife got an email ostensibly from Mercedes saying the starter battery charge status was low and that she needed to drive for 30-60 minutes.

is this legit/normal to get these messages from Mercedes and if so, is this something people have seen in the past?
What vehicle do you have (your info says 2014 GL)? If a V167, a discharging 12V battery can give that message. My 2020 started giving me that message in year 3. After a couple dealer visits a fault was diagnosed and the battery was finally replaced just before the warranty expiration.
Old 06-03-2024, 04:13 PM
  #16  
Junior Member
 
nismodrifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 23
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
2008 ML320 CDI
very interesting. My 2021 450 just began showing "partially charged" today.
Will see if it corrects with drive around.
Service is booked soon.
50,000 kms on it
Old 06-04-2024, 07:21 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
jkaetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 266
Received 98 Likes on 69 Posts
2021 GLS580 | 2011 ML350 BlueTec | 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
Battery charge level/percent is an inexact science. There are too many variables to reliably determine SOC without going through a full charge cycle (full discharge -> full charge). Estimations can be made based on the no load voltage and anticipated capacity but they are only estimations. As batteries age they will naturally loose capacity and depending on the method used to estimate the SOC this may be represented as the battery not "fully charging". If the battery still starts the vehicle it is fine. Service centers will of course be happy to sell you a new one and charge for the install. Batteries are "wear items" and not typically covered under warranty.
The following users liked this post:
BlueYonder (06-04-2024)
Old 06-04-2024, 10:06 AM
  #18  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
mikapen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 4,745
Received 1,577 Likes on 1,159 Posts
'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
Originally Posted by jkaetz
Battery charge level/percent is an inexact science. There are too many variables to reliably determine SOC without going through a full charge cycle (full discharge -> full charge). Estimations can be made based on the no load voltage and anticipated capacity but they are only estimations. As batteries age they will naturally loose capacity and depending on the method used to estimate the SOC this may be represented as the battery not "fully charging". If the battery still starts the vehicle it is fine. Service centers will of course be happy to sell you a new one and charge for the install. Batteries are "wear items" and not typically covered under warranty.
I agree that variables exist, but the ability to spin an engine isn't diagnostic at all.

I trust the "partially charged," and especially "critical" advisements.

If the battery is "partially charged," it's life is being shortened, just sitting there, hungry for electrons and ruining the plates.

Charge it! Either with a lengthy drive as suggested, or a battery maintainer.
You'll save money by extending its life, and maybe a roadside assistance call.

You're right that you can contibute to parts stores' profit lines by not taking care of your equipment, though.
It's like keeping your tires inflated correctly.
Old 06-04-2024, 12:04 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
jkaetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 266
Received 98 Likes on 69 Posts
2021 GLS580 | 2011 ML350 BlueTec | 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
I suppose I am suspicious that the "partially charged" notice is very conservative and likely only represents the capacity loss of a four year old battery rather than anything that would require a service visit. It would be great to actually see the resting voltage and voltage drop on cranking to make a better determination that simply taking the word of the place that will likely be collecting a profit from replacing a "partially charged" battery.
The following 2 users liked this post by jkaetz:
FireRx Captain (06-04-2024), TNS550 (06-04-2024)
Old 06-05-2024, 11:06 AM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
TNS550's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 264
Received 81 Likes on 69 Posts
2015 MB S550 & 2020 MB GLS 450
My 20 GLS 12v battery stays on Partial Charge with my daily driving. It will show Charged if I am on a trip, but then only for a day or so. I’ve only had the Critical notification once. I bought a 22 Honda Ridgeline truck in March and did not drive the GLS for about three weeks. Loaded up for a trip and received the critical notification email. Started fine and was back at Charged when we reached our destination that day.

Not to hijack thread, but what is the typical dealer charge for a 12v battery? Battery in my GLS is original and nearly 4.5 years old. Monday received a “service specials” email from the dealer that included a 12v battery replacement for $462 and was just curious if this was a good price. If so, might take it in for recalls and proactively replace the battery. Thanks.
Old 06-05-2024, 11:28 AM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
mikapen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 4,745
Received 1,577 Likes on 1,159 Posts
'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
Originally Posted by jkaetz
I suppose I am suspicious that the "partially charged" notice is very conservative and likely only represents the capacity loss of a four year old battery rather than anything that would require a service visit. It would be great to actually see the resting voltage and voltage drop on cranking to make a better determination that simply taking the word of the place that will likely be collecting a profit from replacing a "partially charged" battery.
I see two solutions.
1. Do a load test before you replace the battery.
2. Charge your battery.

I have a 5-year-old battery in our GLC. It seldom leaves a 3 mi radius (wife's errand car), and therefore displays a "partially charged" notice every two or three weeks because of the short trips. If we ignore it (don't check the app) it goes critical in another week, and it sends an email. But, since I do check the app regularly, I apply the CTEK maintainer and bring it to a full charge.

The shop did a load test at 54 months and it was fine.

I think the displayed warnings added to the life of the battery, because my wife now participates and hooks up the CTEK maintainer when she sees "partially charged."
Triple win.
The following users liked this post:
jkaetz (06-05-2024)
Old 06-05-2024, 11:33 AM
  #22  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
wildta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,617
Received 596 Likes on 442 Posts
MB
Originally Posted by TNS550
My 20 GLS 12v battery stays on Partial Charge with my daily driving. It will show Charged if I am on a trip, but then only for a day or so. I’ve only had the Critical notification once. I bought a 22 Honda Ridgeline truck in March and did not drive the GLS for about three weeks. Loaded up for a trip and received the critical notification email. Started fine and was back at Charged when we reached our destination that day.

Not to hijack thread, but what is the typical dealer charge for a 12v battery? Battery in my GLS is original and nearly 4.5 years old. Monday received a “service specials” email from the dealer that included a 12v battery replacement for $462 and was just curious if this was a good price. If so, might take it in for recalls and proactively replace the battery. Thanks.
Since I don't really like to wrench, I think that's a good price. I believe most charge around $700.

Here's a video of a DIY:
The following users liked this post:
TNS550 (06-05-2024)
Old 06-06-2024, 08:55 AM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
wildta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,617
Received 596 Likes on 442 Posts
MB
Originally Posted by wildta
I've been traveling for around 4 weeks and mine still says partially charged even though it's on a 4A charger. I know it's fully charged though because the battery meter always says 14.1v or around there upon my return from long trips. Showing actual volts and only notifying low battery when close to the point where you can't start it, would be a lot better. The partially charged label is pretty useless. I just sent them a comment about this using this email:
me-connect.usa@cac.mercedes-benz.com
Unplugged my car last night and this morning it says CHARGED.
Old 06-06-2024, 09:26 AM
  #24  
Member
 
FireRx Captain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: southwest US
Posts: 167
Received 24 Likes on 20 Posts
2020 GLE 350 4Matic, 2016 E350
did some driing yesterday about 30 miles. My GLE shows "charged" now on my Mercedes Me app. So basically, you have to drive them at least every 3-4 days.
Old 06-06-2024, 12:50 PM
  #25  
Junior Member
 
Sparky66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 56
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
V167
Battery Replacement Cost

Originally Posted by TNS550
My 20 GLS 12v battery stays on Partial Charge with my daily driving. It will show Charged if I am on a trip, but then only for a day or so. I’ve only had the Critical notification once. I bought a 22 Honda Ridgeline truck in March and did not drive the GLS for about three weeks. Loaded up for a trip and received the critical notification email. Started fine and was back at Charged when we reached our destination that day.

Not to hijack thread, but what is the typical dealer charge for a 12v battery? Battery in my GLS is original and nearly 4.5 years old. Monday received a “service specials” email from the dealer that included a 12v battery replacement for $462 and was just curious if this was a good price. If so, might take it in for recalls and proactively replace the battery. Thanks.
Dealer here quoted $820. The seat, carpet, pillar etc has to be removed and reinstalled


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Starter battery low. Drive for 30-60 minutes?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:09 AM.