Is it considered burning oil?

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Jun 15, 2024 | 09:13 PM
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2023 GLE 450. Bought it brand new almost one year ago. The initial oil level was max, and now it is between max and min. 6,000 miles so far. Is it normal for this engine to consume some engine oil? or it is considered burning oil?


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Jun 15, 2024 | 09:51 PM
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I wouldnt be too concerned, I always question whether or not the electronic measurement is actually accurate. I've had a 6 month period of it reading normal and then some days it gives me a warning that the oil level was excessive. These days I slightly underfill 1/4 to 1/2 a quart when I do oil changes so I dont get bothered. If you are burning oil at a point in which you should be concerned, you would see the bluish smoke out of your exhaust. Your current level is fine, but if you prefer to add I recommend doing it in 1/4s.
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Jun 15, 2024 | 10:23 PM
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Quote: 2023 GLE 450. Bought it brand new almost one year ago. The initial oil level was max, and now it is between max and min. 6,000 miles so far. Is it normal for this engine to consume some engine oil? or it is considered burning oil?

Make sure you don't measure at an incline also break-in may or may not burn some oil as well but that's normal.
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Jun 16, 2024 | 11:55 AM
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Quote: I wouldnt be too concerned, I always question whether or not the electronic measurement is actually accurate. I've had a 6 month period of it reading normal and then some days it gives me a warning that the oil level was excessive. These days I slightly underfill 1/4 to 1/2 a quart when I do oil changes so I dont get bothered. If you are burning oil at a point in which you should be concerned, you would see the bluish smoke out of your exhaust. Your current level is fine, but if you prefer to add I recommend doing it in 1/4s.
I've had similar experience and have similar advice. DO NOT assume that the level indicator being half-way between MIN and MAX means you are ONE quart low (as I did on first notice of this). You could quite likely get an oil over-full warning and then all levels of panic and worry can set in. When investigating the over-full warning in the manual I learned there is also a 'too-low' oil warning, so I've since adopted the policy to only add oil if the 'too-low' warning light comes on (and it never has) - and occasionally check the digital level just to see what it says. I think there are 9 quarts of oil in the GLE, and no clue that I can find about what the 'minimum' oil level translates to on the digital meter.

And BTW, there is no old-school dip stick in my 2021 (and maybe all) GLE to judge for yourself the oil level and gain (or lose) confidence in the digital meter.
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Jun 16, 2024 | 02:45 PM
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I've had the same thing in my 2020, 2021, 2023 GLE450. If you read the manual it mentions this which sounds crazy. If I'm reading this right it says you could use a quart every 600 miles??? This is in the 2024 GLE manual and hasn't changed over the years. I've never gone below 1/2 in 10K


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Jun 16, 2024 | 04:24 PM
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Quote: I've had the same thing in my 2020, 2021, 2023 GLE450. If you read the manual it mentions this which sounds crazy. If I'm reading this right it says you could use a quart every 600 miles??? This is in the 2024 GLE manual and hasn't changed over the years. I've never gone below 1/2 in 10K

Well, that was there for pretty much every single MB owner's manual. Some engines burn oil during break-in some doesn't, despite being mass production but it doesn't mean they will be identical vehicles, there are always some differences from one batch to the other. MB put that there due to that uncertainty.
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Jun 17, 2024 | 10:15 AM
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Quote: I've had the same thing in my 2020, 2021, 2023 GLE450. If you read the manual it mentions this which sounds crazy. If I'm reading this right it says you could use a quart every 600 miles??? This is in the 2024 GLE manual and hasn't changed over the years. I've never gone below 1/2 in 10K

That's a CYA for sure. I'd be pissed if it was burning that much. I've never had to add oil between yearly services (~5k miles).
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Jun 17, 2024 | 11:42 AM
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Quote: .......
And BTW, there is no old-school dip stick in my 2021 (and maybe all) GLE to judge for yourself the oil level and gain (or lose) confidence in the digital meter.
A little off topic here but the reason we are losing dipsticks is emission standards.
Any leakage through engine openings contributes to total emissions in EPA test cycles.
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Jun 17, 2024 | 12:17 PM
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We have 5.5k on our MY2024 GLE 450, it's still at "max" level as it came with from the factory. It's probably 50% highway, 50% city driving for miles rolled. For a number of trips or total time driven, it's mostly a city car.
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Jun 17, 2024 | 12:31 PM
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Quote: 2023 GLE 450. Bought it brand new almost one year ago. The initial oil level was max, and now it is between max and min. 6,000 miles so far. Is it normal for this engine to consume some engine oil? or it is considered burning oil?

Go into the workshop menu, it will give you the oil level to the .1L in real time and yes it is pretty accurate. It told me immediately that I had put 10L instead of 9.5L into ours. Took almost two weeks of driving before it gave the "Reduce oil level" message from that menu.
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Jun 18, 2024 | 02:28 PM
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My GLE350 has never used any...stays at the top of the electronic checker...

I too would be pissed if I had one that used copious amounts of oil.
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Jun 20, 2024 | 07:07 AM
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Quote: A little off topic here but the reason we are losing dipsticks is emission standards.
Any leakage through engine openings contributes to total emissions in EPA test cycles.
if it is, it's a lame excuse. That's my only gripe about the newer engines. I can no longer do my oil changes from the top using my fluid extractor via the dipstick tube, I still use it on my Wife E 350. But once we trade that in 2030-31, I will get rid of my extractor. Too old to be crawling beneath vehicles to do oil changes. I just pay for it at the Dealership. I he bought the vehicle a year ago, maybe that still is the Break in Oil. and he due for the normal oil change anyways.
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Jun 20, 2024 | 07:52 AM
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Quote: if it is, it's a lame excuse. That's my only gripe about the newer engines. I can no longer do my oil changes from the top using my fluid extractor via the dipstick tube, I still use it on my Wife E 350. But once we trade that in 2030-31, I will get rid of my extractor. Too old to be crawling beneath vehicles to do oil changes. I just pay for it at the Dealership. I he bought the vehicle a year ago, maybe that still is the Break in Oil. and he due for the normal oil change anyways.
Which extractor like brand or model did you used back then? Curious.
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Jun 20, 2024 | 02:41 PM
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Quote: if it is, it's a lame excuse. That's my only gripe about the newer engines. I can no longer do my oil changes from the top using my fluid extractor via the dipstick tube, I still use it on my Wife E 350. But once we trade that in 2030-31, I will get rid of my extractor. Too old to be crawling beneath vehicles to do oil changes. I just pay for it at the Dealership. I he bought the vehicle a year ago, maybe that still is the Break in Oil. and he due for the normal oil change anyways.
It's not a lame excuse - it's reality these days. EPA measures more than tailpipe emissions.

Regarding an extractor, I wouldn't use one if I wanted a complete oil change. Saves time, but that's about it.
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Nov 22, 2024 | 12:06 AM
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Had my 2024 GLE580 at the dealer today and asked them about my oil showing minimum or just below with only 6,000. They topped it off and said happens all the time.
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