View Poll Results: AIRMATIC on GLE 450 worth it?
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I have been searching pretty much all available inventory near me including both CPO and NEW, it is EXTREMELY difficult to find one with the AIRMATIC option on GLE 450. Almost makes me want to just get a base GLE 580 and call it a day... LOL
During the test drive I found the AIRMATIC very quiet and comfortable, I regret not do a back-to-back with one with regular suspension.
Before I drive myself insane... Is the AIRMATIC option worth hunting for? We don't do any off-roading or towing, but do quite a bit of road trips ranging from 2-8 hours, carrying average luggage and stuff.
Thanks in advance!
During the test drive I found the AIRMATIC very quiet and comfortable, I regret not do a back-to-back with one with regular suspension.
Before I drive myself insane... Is the AIRMATIC option worth hunting for? We don't do any off-roading or towing, but do quite a bit of road trips ranging from 2-8 hours, carrying average luggage and stuff.
Thanks in advance!
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I had a loaner with airmatic and found the ride a bit too floaty for my tastes. That wasn't my primary reason for skipping it though, I was more concerned with longevity. If you're only planning to keep the car until the end of warranty, it's a nice option. If you're thinking long term, eventually it will need an expensive repair. Steel springs tend to hold up better.
@cZ-727 I'll preface my opinion by saying that I am 67 and my wife is 65. We just ordered and purchased a '26 GLE450 Coupe without the AirMatic suspension and I *really* regret not getting it. We had AirMatic on our GLS550 and it was a plush but firm ride. The "steel" suspension is overly harsh in comparison in my opinion especially for rear seat passengers. It is to the point where I will probably trade out of this car in a year or so (especially if the GLE gets refreshed for '27) and order one with the air suspension. The AirMatic just has a much more pleasant and refined ride; it feels more luxurious if that makes any sense.
I did have to replace the air bags on the GLS550 at around 6 years because the right rear leaked a bit, but the repair was done by a local independent shop and was not expensive. I purchased OE Bilstein air bags from RockAuto.com and supplied my own parts. They were between $300 and $400 for the back pair at the time.
Hold the line and continue your hunt; or just order exactly what you want - it takes about eight weeks to get your car.
I did have to replace the air bags on the GLS550 at around 6 years because the right rear leaked a bit, but the repair was done by a local independent shop and was not expensive. I purchased OE Bilstein air bags from RockAuto.com and supplied my own parts. They were between $300 and $400 for the back pair at the time.
Hold the line and continue your hunt; or just order exactly what you want - it takes about eight weeks to get your car.
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Can you plz elaborate on the floaty part? Originally Posted by Lucky 777
I had a loaner with airmatic and found the ride a bit too floaty for my tastes. That wasn't my primary reason for skipping it though, I was more concerned with longevity. If you're only planning to keep the car until the end of warranty, it's a nice option. If you're thinking long term, eventually it will need an expensive repair. Steel springs tend to hold up better.
Yeah I've heard about the cost but I have not seen actual numbers on how much different it will be. We do plan to keep the car for a long time though so that is certainly a factor.
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I did have to replace the air bags on the GLS550 at around 6 years because the right rear leaked a bit, but the repair was done by a local independent shop and was not expensive. I purchased OE Bilstein air bags from RockAuto.com and supplied my own parts. They were between $300 and $400 for the back pair at the time.
Hold the line and continue your hunt; or just order exactly what you want - it takes about eight weeks to get your car.
Thank you, 300-400 doesn't sound too bad? Was the labor of installing considerably higher?Originally Posted by clarkpittman
@cZ-727 I'll preface my opinion by saying that I am 67 and my wife is 65. We just ordered and purchased a '26 GLE450 Coupe without the AirMatic suspension and I *really* regret not getting it. We had AirMatic on our GLS550 and it was a plush but firm ride. The "steel" suspension is overly harsh in comparison in my opinion especially for rear seat passengers. It is to the point where I will probably trade out of this car in a year or so (especially if the GLE gets refreshed for '27) and order one with the air suspension. The AirMatic just has a much more pleasant and refined ride; it feels more luxurious if that makes any sense.I did have to replace the air bags on the GLS550 at around 6 years because the right rear leaked a bit, but the repair was done by a local independent shop and was not expensive. I purchased OE Bilstein air bags from RockAuto.com and supplied my own parts. They were between $300 and $400 for the back pair at the time.
Hold the line and continue your hunt; or just order exactly what you want - it takes about eight weeks to get your car.
I will try to continue searching LOL but none of those websites makes it possible to filter on the AIRMATIC option.
Even MB own site is not much helpful when trying to filter inventory by features
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Air suspension is a game changer. Get it. Yes it is worth hunting for.
Latest air suspensions from German carmakers are at least moderately reliable. I have air ride on my Cayenne and it is great, and seems average or above average reliable. On rennlist there aren't commonly reported glitches or widespread early failure. I am not an expert on latest MB Airmatic but it seems "not terrible" from a reliability point of view.
Air springs fail, as do steel coil springs. When the springs fail is unknowable. If buying an out-of-warranty German car with air suspension, plan to self insure (pay for) a pair of air springs if you plan to own beyond 100k miles.
Latest air suspensions from German carmakers are at least moderately reliable. I have air ride on my Cayenne and it is great, and seems average or above average reliable. On rennlist there aren't commonly reported glitches or widespread early failure. I am not an expert on latest MB Airmatic but it seems "not terrible" from a reliability point of view.
Air springs fail, as do steel coil springs. When the springs fail is unknowable. If buying an out-of-warranty German car with air suspension, plan to self insure (pay for) a pair of air springs if you plan to own beyond 100k miles.
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Latest air suspensions from German carmakers are at least moderately reliable. I have air ride on my Cayenne and it is great, and seems average or above average reliable. On rennlist there aren't commonly reported glitches or widespread early failure. I am not an expert on latest MB Airmatic but it seems "not terrible" from a reliability point of view.
Air springs fail, as do steel coil springs. When the springs fail is unknowable. If buying an out-of-warranty German car with air suspension, plan to self insure (pay for) a pair of air springs if you plan to own beyond 100k miles.
100k miles isn't terrible, with how much we drive it will be 9 years before we reach that 😂 Originally Posted by chassis
Air suspension is a game changer. Get it. Yes it is worth hunting for.Latest air suspensions from German carmakers are at least moderately reliable. I have air ride on my Cayenne and it is great, and seems average or above average reliable. On rennlist there aren't commonly reported glitches or widespread early failure. I am not an expert on latest MB Airmatic but it seems "not terrible" from a reliability point of view.
Air springs fail, as do steel coil springs. When the springs fail is unknowable. If buying an out-of-warranty German car with air suspension, plan to self insure (pay for) a pair of air springs if you plan to own beyond 100k miles.
I guess I will keep searching!!
I will have to say though, finder.porache.com is MILES better than any other manufacturers inventory search website.. we briefly looked into Cayenne but it is just too expensive. You get functional options filter and the ability to view window sticker without having to jumping through dealer websites etc.
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I recommend opting for airmatic. Floaty, I disagree, but if you find it to be, you can set up your individual profile to "sport" or sport mode outright.
As for expensive repair, sure its a bit more pricey that steel but overall MB's Airmatic system(s) are fairly reliable. Had it in a e63 up to 120k w/ no issues, w220 s-class 300k (valve block replacement, forget when). Currently s-class 85k & GLE 60k.
When struts/compressor/valve block need to be serviced, overall its not a difficult job for knowledgeable MB mechanics. Parts and remanufactured struts are not obscenely priced.
As for expensive repair, sure its a bit more pricey that steel but overall MB's Airmatic system(s) are fairly reliable. Had it in a e63 up to 120k w/ no issues, w220 s-class 300k (valve block replacement, forget when). Currently s-class 85k & GLE 60k.
When struts/compressor/valve block need to be serviced, overall its not a difficult job for knowledgeable MB mechanics. Parts and remanufactured struts are not obscenely priced.
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In 2020 and 2021, we drove every suspension configuration available for the 167 chassis.
We owned an E-ABC car but it was a Covid mess, it was brought back.
Our rankings were as follows:
1. AMG ARC (AMG ride control)
2. Steel springs
3. E-ABC
4. Air suspension
I'd put the Cayenne PDCC just behind ARC, FWIW.
The best combination of ride and handling is the AMG ARC.
The air suspension is just too floaty or boat like. Sport mode on the air suspension is better but harsher than we liked. Really disliked the "Curve" function in E-ABC, as a driver.
We owned an E-ABC car but it was a Covid mess, it was brought back.
Our rankings were as follows:
1. AMG ARC (AMG ride control)
2. Steel springs
3. E-ABC
4. Air suspension
I'd put the Cayenne PDCC just behind ARC, FWIW.
The best combination of ride and handling is the AMG ARC.
The air suspension is just too floaty or boat like. Sport mode on the air suspension is better but harsher than we liked. Really disliked the "Curve" function in E-ABC, as a driver.
Totally depends on your use cases and priorities. Will it ever venture off pavement? Will people be using the rear seats in particular ie Comfort vs sport preferences. I have a GLE 450 with steel that I quickly replaced with an H&R set to drop it one inch. I do almost entirety city driving and had thought the stock suspension was unnecessarily floaty for my needs. With the H&R springs, it handles sharper, more like a car, but on super deep potholes it’s decidedly harsher. I won’t be crossing the Rubicon trail on my way to Whole Foods so I’m ok with the trade off there.
We have a 2024 GLE450 with air suspension. If you prefer a firmer ride, then yes, the air suspension can feel floaty. But if you drive on poorly maintained roads, then the air suspension is worth it. Really absorbs the road imperfections.
Another benefit to air suspension is the ability to raise and lower the vehicle height.
Another benefit to air suspension is the ability to raise and lower the vehicle height.
Thanks everyone!
I finally found one, 2024 CPO pretty loaded MSRP 93xxx w/ 15k miles, listed for $76k. Fair deal? I've literally went through probably 100 listings LOL...
For comparison, I found one 2026 NEW MSRP $97k, similarly optioned except 22 vs 21 wheels, assuming 12% off (advertised by many brokers) that's $85k. Although new has better interest rate but my used car rate isn't too high (4.9) and I do plan on paying it off early.
I finally found one, 2024 CPO pretty loaded MSRP 93xxx w/ 15k miles, listed for $76k. Fair deal? I've literally went through probably 100 listings LOL...
For comparison, I found one 2026 NEW MSRP $97k, similarly optioned except 22 vs 21 wheels, assuming 12% off (advertised by many brokers) that's $85k. Although new has better interest rate but my used car rate isn't too high (4.9) and I do plan on paying it off early.
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No plans for off road, but the primary function of this vehicle is family duty, 2 kids in the back.Originally Posted by psychopoodle
Totally depends on your use cases and priorities. Will it ever venture off pavement? Will people be using the rear seats in particular ie Comfort vs sport preferences. I have a GLE 450 with steel that I quickly replaced with an H&R set to drop it one inch. I do almost entirety city driving and had thought the stock suspension was unnecessarily floaty for my needs. With the H&R springs, it handles sharper, more like a car, but on super deep potholes it’s decidedly harsher. I won’t be crossing the Rubicon trail on my way to Whole Foods so I’m ok with the trade off there.
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The larger wheel sizes will have a stiffer ride. The airmatic suspension will help.
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Understood.Originally Posted by BlueYonder
The larger wheel sizes will have a stiffer ride. The airmatic suspension will help.
Largest I am ever willing to go is 21.
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Op, if you are looking at pricing in the 75k+ range, I would say you might want to start looking at the 580s also.
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I wish... 75k is kind of my upper limit (after already blown away the original budget lol).Originally Posted by vincheung
Op, if you are looking at pricing in the 75k+ range, I would say you might want to start looking at the 580s also.
I did briefly look at some 580s but $80k only gets me exclusive trim (2024+) and Pinnacle would push too far outside my budget.
Considering this is a family vehicle, I'd rather trade some HP for nice amenities
I will try to find driving fun somewhere else hahavincheung
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Totally understand, it sure is a slippery slope because “what’s a couple bucks more” turns into a few thousand fast.
Not to twist your arm, but I’ll leave this link right here in case you want to peek at another 580 that fits the bill and price range (with room to negotiate)..
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/inve...b8fb0rb209554/
just an example, but with that said, the 450 is no slouch and an excellent choice.
Not to twist your arm, but I’ll leave this link right here in case you want to peek at another 580 that fits the bill and price range (with room to negotiate)..
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/inve...b8fb0rb209554/
just an example, but with that said, the 450 is no slouch and an excellent choice.
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Not to twist your arm, but I’ll leave this link right here in case you want to peek at another 580 that fits the bill and price range (with room to negotiate)..
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/inve...b8fb0rb209554/
just an example, but with that said, the 450 is no slouch and an excellent choice.
Thanks. Haha, yeah slippery slope indeed. My initial budget was 60k LMAO for a 2023 GLE450... And look where I ended up 😂 Originally Posted by vincheung
Totally understand, it sure is a slippery slope because “what’s a couple bucks more” turns into a few thousand fast.Not to twist your arm, but I’ll leave this link right here in case you want to peek at another 580 that fits the bill and price range (with room to negotiate)..
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/inve...b8fb0rb209554/
just an example, but with that said, the 450 is no slouch and an excellent choice.
That particular one you linked is a buyback though... Almost gave me a heart attack like how did I miss that one!?
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That explains it! Sorry didn’t delve into it, best of luck on your search!
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I finally found one, 2024 CPO pretty loaded MSRP 93xxx w/ 15k miles, listed for $76k. Fair deal? I've literally went through probably 100 listings LOL...
For comparison, I found one 2026 NEW MSRP $97k, similarly optioned except 22 vs 21 wheels, assuming 12% off (advertised by many brokers) that's $85k. Although new has better interest rate but my used car rate isn't too high (4.9) and I do plan on paying it off early.
go new. Full warranty. You break it in and care for it from day 1Originally Posted by cZ-727
Thanks everyone!I finally found one, 2024 CPO pretty loaded MSRP 93xxx w/ 15k miles, listed for $76k. Fair deal? I've literally went through probably 100 listings LOL...
For comparison, I found one 2026 NEW MSRP $97k, similarly optioned except 22 vs 21 wheels, assuming 12% off (advertised by many brokers) that's $85k. Although new has better interest rate but my used car rate isn't too high (4.9) and I do plan on paying it off early.
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Off road comment, not yours, is a red herring and nothingburger. Originally Posted by cZ-727
No plans for off road, but the primary function of this vehicle is family duty, 2 kids in the back.
GLE 4MATIC and Cayenne are excellent off road machines with steel springs and even more so with air suspension because of height adjustability. Complete nonsense to suggest otherwise. Speaking from experience.
The main concern is damaging (scraping) wheels with low profile factory street tires. The factory tires will not, however, prevent impressive off road performance.
Just FYI it looks like MB is offering 1.4% financing as of a couple of days ago...
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Yep I'm aware of that thanks!Originally Posted by clarkpittman
Just FYI it looks like MB is offering 1.4% financing as of a couple of days ago...
I even tried to find new inventory with the options I wanted but boy is it hard to find one equipped with AIRMATIC... The only one I found is $97k with 22" wheels which I don't like for various reasons. Idk the price difference is justifiable for me though...
Building one would mean less of a discount so the price diff is even larger.
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I finally found one, 2024 CPO pretty loaded MSRP 93xxx w/ 15k miles, listed for $76k. Fair deal? I've literally went through probably 100 listings LOL...
For comparison, I found one 2026 NEW MSRP $97k, similarly optioned except 22 vs 21 wheels, assuming 12% off (advertised by many brokers) that's $85k. Although new has better interest rate but my used car rate isn't too high (4.9) and I do plan on paying it off early.
76K seems a little high for that unless it's fully loaded. If you are just looking for one with AIRMATIC, I'd keep looking for something that might be a little cheaper.Originally Posted by cZ-727
Thanks everyone!I finally found one, 2024 CPO pretty loaded MSRP 93xxx w/ 15k miles, listed for $76k. Fair deal? I've literally went through probably 100 listings LOL...
For comparison, I found one 2026 NEW MSRP $97k, similarly optioned except 22 vs 21 wheels, assuming 12% off (advertised by many brokers) that's $85k. Although new has better interest rate but my used car rate isn't too high (4.9) and I do plan on paying it off early.











