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Hi guys, I am new to the forum and asked a similar question a while back but didn't really get much response. I am considering the new 2021 GLE63s and wanted some insight from owners. I currently own a 2015 ML350 which I bought brand new. The car has been rock solid going on 7 years now with no issues. I also looked around for insurance and its costing me about the same as my ML to insure (not sure how that works...)
I really want to know about the long term reliability and maintenance costs with the AMG models. I hear people going through brakes and tires every 10-15k miles but I have almost 65k on my ML and still on factory front brakes (rear was changed at 40k). I also hear the car is a ticking time bomb after the 4yr warranty expires (I plan on buying one new). The car will be my dd and I plan to put about 10k miles per year but I wanted to know if anyone is still running on the summer tires in the cold/snow? Do people really hang onto these things long term or do they trade/sell after 4 years? Any advice/tips would be greatly appreciated.
For a single 2021 GLE63 one could have bought two ML350s in 2015. So most 63 owners are not concerned with maintenance costs or its frequency vs. 350. Sorry if it sounds condescending, but it is true. Also '21 63 is a brand new production car that no one here has any clues regarding its long term reliability (beyond one year). All that aside V167 63 is a fantastic car (as W166 63 was and still is).
The 63 eats rear tires and rear brakes like there is no tomorrow. I think I've replaced the inside rear brakes three times in the last 20k miles and tires around the same. With total transparency, I had a sticking E brake that probably caused some increased wear. That's now fixed under warranty so we will see if it helped. Tires, brakes, rotors, and maintenance are much more expensive over the 350 and reliability is no where near that of the 350.
The 2021 63's could be a total crap shoot. If it is anything like some of the other 167's, I would stay away until the growing pangs are fixed.
I just placed an order for my 2021 GLE 63. I hope to really enjoy it, but the last comment gives me a little concern. I do not expect this to be as low maint as a RAV4 by any means, but I wonder if anyone else has similar issues w/ their AMG purchase. My thought on getting the latest model of the 21 (August build date) was to hopefully have any issues worked out from earlier production. The GLE platform is now 2 years old, even though the 63 is as 21 MY setup.
I just placed an order for my 2021 GLE 63. I hope to really enjoy it, but the last comment gives me a little concern. I do not expect this to be as low maint as a RAV4 by any means, but I wonder if anyone else has similar issues w/ their AMG purchase. My thought on getting the latest model of the 21 (August build date) was to hopefully have any issues worked out from earlier production. The GLE platform is now 2 years old, even though the 63 is as 21 MY setup.
I would suggest to check out the "regular" V167 GLE forum. It has significantly more activities/info regarding new GLEs including 53/63 AMGs. Basically the main issue (but not the only one) is with the 48V lithium battery.
I've had a '21 63s since Sept and really the only issue I've had is with the design of the 22" wheels. The design has a center cap that covers the wheel bolts. It's a 2 piece center cap - a large metal ring surrounding a plastic middle section. There's a design/manufacturing issue however where the metal ring is just slightly too large and gets stuck. When you try to remove the center cap, the middle section unscrews but the metal ring remains in place. No amount of prying will get the ring off. The only way to remove is to use a can of compressed air to freeze the ring so it shrinks enough to pop off.
I've been back to the dealer twice and they really can't do anything because it's a design flaw. They've replaced the caps but the new ones are the same size as the old. They've opened multiple cases with multiple customers but MB hasn't released a new part yet.
I currently own a 2020 C63 Sedan and a 2021 GLE63s Coupe. I can firmly say that although the GLE63s has more power and clearly is able to push itself much harder, the C63 just feels very aggressive and much more rambunctious. Nonetheless, the car has been great for me and has shown almost zero issues. Albeit the car vibrates while idling quite a bit, I had spoken with a dealership advisor and he informed me that is due to the fact that the car just idles at a very low RPM generating natural vibrations that are slow enough to feel.
I currently own a 2020 C63 Sedan and a 2021 GLE63s Coupe. I can firmly say that although the GLE63s has more power and clearly is able to push itself much harder, the C63 just feels very aggressive and much more rambunctious. Nonetheless, the car has been great for me and has shown almost zero issues. Albeit the car vibrates while idling quite a bit, I had spoken with a dealership advisor and he informed me that is due to the fact that the car just idles at a very low RPM generating natural vibrations that are slow enough to feel.
1st post eh?
I wonder if that could also have to do something with the approximate 2000lb difference in curb weight and overall difference in vehicle dimensions? A pick up truck is going to feel more aggressive and rambunctious than a semi truck.
I currently own a 2020 C63 Sedan and a 2021 GLE63s Coupe. I can firmly say that although the GLE63s has more power and clearly is able to push itself much harder, the C63 just feels very aggressive and much more rambunctious. Nonetheless, the car has been great for me and has shown almost zero issues. Albeit the car vibrates while idling quite a bit, I had spoken with a dealership advisor and he informed me that is due to the fact that the car just idles at a very low RPM generating natural vibrations that are slow enough to feel.
I've had a '21 63s since Sept and really the only issue I've had is with the design of the 22" wheels. The design has a center cap that covers the wheel bolts. It's a 2 piece center cap - a large metal ring surrounding a plastic middle section. There's a design/manufacturing issue however where the metal ring is just slightly too large and gets stuck. When you try to remove the center cap, the middle section unscrews but the metal ring remains in place. No amount of prying will get the ring off. The only way to remove is to use a can of compressed air to freeze the ring so it shrinks enough to pop off.
I've been back to the dealer twice and they really can't do anything because it's a design flaw. They've replaced the caps but the new ones are the same size as the old. They've opened multiple cases with multiple customers but MB hasn't released a new part yet.
There may be a solution for your problem with a tremendous "side" benefit. I would strongly suggest to try Rimgard wheel locks from Sweden, specifically the "AMG" version. They are pricy but are impeccably engineered and look stock on your type of wheels and even inhance stock look for standard MB wheels.
Most other MB stock wheels (I have two of these sets and they fit OEM wheels even when not specifically listed by Rimgard): https://us.rimgard.com/products/mercedes (these are even on sale now).
Last edited by threeMBs; Jun 27, 2021 at 07:23 AM.
There may be a solution for your problem with a tremendous "side" benefit. I would strongly suggest to try Rimgard wheel locks from Sweden, specifically the "AMG" version. They are pricy but are impeccably engineered and look stock on your type of wheels and even inhance stock look for standard MB wheels.
Most other MB stock wheels (I have two of these sets and they fit OEM wheels even when not specifically listed by Rimgard): https://us.rimgard.com/products/mercedes (these are even on sale now).
I looked at their installation video and unfortunately I don't think this will solve my problem. It appears that they re-use the stock metal ring that covers the bolts and it's the metal ring that is stuck because it's slightly too large.
Hi guys, I am new to the forum and asked a similar question a while back but didn't really get much response. I am considering the new 2021 GLE63s and wanted some insight from owners. I currently own a 2015 ML350 which I bought brand new. The car has been rock solid going on 7 years now with no issues. I also looked around for insurance and its costing me about the same as my ML to insure (not sure how that works...)
I really want to know about the long term reliability and maintenance costs with the AMG models. I hear people going through brakes and tires every 10-15k miles but I have almost 65k on my ML and still on factory front brakes (rear was changed at 40k). I also hear the car is a ticking time bomb after the 4yr warranty expires (I plan on buying one new). The car will be my dd and I plan to put about 10k miles per year but I wanted to know if anyone is still running on the summer tires in the cold/snow? Do people really hang onto these things long term or do they trade/sell after 4 years? Any advice/tips would be greatly appreciated.
I bought a 21 gle 63 s sedan about a month ago and I haven’t had so far Any issues with it other than the remote start from the phone where I try to start it and it starts and then immediately shuts off saying the ecu turned off the car. But obviously when i take it to the dealer to show them it works fine. Currently sitting at 1100 miles other than that I haven’t had any issues and I really am in love with the damn thing first amg for me coming from a few performance cars.
I wonder if that could also have to do something with the approximate 2000lb difference in curb weight and overall difference in vehicle dimensions? A pick up truck is going to feel more aggressive and rambunctious than a semi truck.
I actually work in logistics and own around 30 semis coincidentally! A raptor or any of the pickups I currently own are not as rough as some of these semis out there! And yes this is one if my first posts, I didn't even know this forum existed haha
I have a 2017 GLE63 with 17K miles. I had to rear brake pads on it at 15K miles but other than that, no issues. My wife's C43 coupe needed tires and rear brakes at 20K miles so it's not only GLE63's. We replaced the Conti's with Bridgestones and they look like new with 23K miles. Her car has the track package so I am sure the tires were really soft summer tires. My GLE has summer tires, too.
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