GLE 53 brake upgrade after factory
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GLE 53 brake upgrade after factory
Hi,
New to forum so I apologize if this has been discussed previously (did not find anything so far on this subject). Just wondering if anyone has ever changed the brake calipers and rotor for the 2021 GLE 53 with the large brake system as you find on the GLE 63S not at the factory. If so, could you keep the existing brake rotors and are there any other parts that would be needed to make this upgrade? Appreciate the insight. Thanks
New to forum so I apologize if this has been discussed previously (did not find anything so far on this subject). Just wondering if anyone has ever changed the brake calipers and rotor for the 2021 GLE 53 with the large brake system as you find on the GLE 63S not at the factory. If so, could you keep the existing brake rotors and are there any other parts that would be needed to make this upgrade? Appreciate the insight. Thanks
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Hi,
New to forum so I apologize if this has been discussed previously (did not find anything so far on this subject). Just wondering if anyone has ever changed the brake calipers and rotor for the 2021 GLE 53 with the large brake system as you find on the GLE 63S not at the factory. If so, could you keep the existing brake rotors and are there any other parts that would be needed to make this upgrade? Appreciate the insight. Thanks
New to forum so I apologize if this has been discussed previously (did not find anything so far on this subject). Just wondering if anyone has ever changed the brake calipers and rotor for the 2021 GLE 53 with the large brake system as you find on the GLE 63S not at the factory. If so, could you keep the existing brake rotors and are there any other parts that would be needed to make this upgrade? Appreciate the insight. Thanks
I have the GLE63s brakes on my GLE53 and for the price it was a steal $1500 list i got a deal on the spec so it was around $1100. If your thinking of just calipers only be in mind that your likely to need the 21" wheel for proper clearance. as they are massive 6 piston calipers I don't think your going to pick up that much is brake performance with just calipers assuming the fit and you have the 21 inch wheels with proper offset. The bite on the massive rotors is what gives the braking performance. I suspect that the brake bias will be the same. Keep in mind MB are so over engineered that many of the sensor are tied to functions we never dreamed about. I don't think this is a financially prudent move.
Jimmy B
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Bill Baird (07-28-2021)
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When GLE53 is ordered with silver(not even red) GLE63S brakes, MB is charging $2,500. This is only for GLE63S part minus GLE53 part (labor is the same). Do the math. Installing GLE63S brake onto GLE53 after the fact, is minimum $4K (maybe closer to $5K) not just $1K+.
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Since you added the word "insights" I'll chime in with my thoughts. I did this years ago on a '92 500e. MB supplied US vehicle with smaller rotors and calipers than the European version which they believed would be less tested than in the euro markets due to lower speed limits.. After going through two sets of rotors under warranty the dealer agreed to replace (upgrade) to euro specs calipers and rotors. The cost if I had to pay would have been close to $6000 ail in '92 dollars. The brake bias and anit-lock were not affected as it had already been engineered or and was basically just a bolt on.
I have the GLE63s brakes on my GLE53 and for the price it was a steal $1500 list i got a deal on the spec so it was around $1100. If your thinking of just calipers only be in mind that your likely to need the 21" wheel for proper clearance. as they are massive 6 piston calipers I don't think your going to pick up that much is brake performance with just calipers assuming the fit and you have the 21 inch wheels with proper offset. The bite on the massive rotors is what gives the braking performance. I suspect that the brake bias will be the same. Keep in mind MB are so over engineered that many of the sensor are tied to functions we never dreamed about. I don't think this is a financially prudent move.
Jimmy B
I have the GLE63s brakes on my GLE53 and for the price it was a steal $1500 list i got a deal on the spec so it was around $1100. If your thinking of just calipers only be in mind that your likely to need the 21" wheel for proper clearance. as they are massive 6 piston calipers I don't think your going to pick up that much is brake performance with just calipers assuming the fit and you have the 21 inch wheels with proper offset. The bite on the massive rotors is what gives the braking performance. I suspect that the brake bias will be the same. Keep in mind MB are so over engineered that many of the sensor are tied to functions we never dreamed about. I don't think this is a financially prudent move.
Jimmy B
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This reminds me of 2004 when I just bought a 2004.5 C230 Sport Sedan that came with the brembo 2 pistons rotors in the front (same as C32 AMG). My "friend" with a 2003 E500 wanted me to swap brake systems with him and then have me go to the dealer and say that my car did not come with the Brembo brake system when it was originally supposed to. He wanted the sportier brakes because his car did not have them at the time.
I didn't do it. And I don't talk to him anymore.
I didn't do it. And I don't talk to him anymore.
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One thing the GLE 53 need are brakes... The silver brakes are terrible. We have a 21 GLE 53 and the brakes are subpar should have added the upgraded brakes to the build.
Now I want to make the swap...
Now I want to make the swap...
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Before you do a costly brake upgrade try flushing out the original brake fluid and replace it with Castrol SRF Racing fluid...Huge difference on my old E63s wagon even with CCB
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I remember the first week when I first got it, the pedal did seem to travel slightly longer. But then it went back to normal after a few days. I think they have the same cylinder from what I was told.
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This is discouraging. If anything, one would expect a significantly better brake pedal feel, assuming one is not upgrading to 63's brakes just for the looks. MC and brake lines should all be the same. I assume brake fluid was flushed after the upgrade, wasn't it? Were the pads/rotors properly bedded in?
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I think it is a little air in the system which is easy to have happen when doing this kind of work. Easy fix. Go back and tell them to blead the brakes again and that should fix it.
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This is discouraging. If anything, one would expect a significantly better brake pedal feel, assuming one is not upgrading to 63's brakes just for the looks. MC and brake lines should all be the same. I assume brake fluid was flushed after the upgrade, wasn't it? Were the pads/rotors properly bedded in?
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threeMBs (12-22-2021)
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Good to know. By brake line are you referring to flexible rubber brake line/hose connecting each caliper to metal brake line in each wheel well or are you referring to ALL brake lines including all lines running from the MC under the car to each wheel well? TIA
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https://mbepc.net/1/fg/gle/p78/167188/0/42/030 & https://mbepc.net/1/fg/gle/p78/167188/0/42/045
Code "U29" are the Brembos.
Code "U29" are the Brembos.
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