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Old Mar 12, 2022 | 09:37 AM
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WTF! Dashboard Clock Adjustment at Dealer!

LOL this is ridiculous. Mercedes dealer sends out email about their no charge service to adjust the Dashboard clock! Is this a thing for some models? Even my 20-year-old E55 updates it's clock!





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Old Mar 12, 2022 | 03:07 PM
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Some people get it wrong. Time zone, DST, turning off "auto," who knows.
The offer is probably welcomed by many.
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Old Mar 12, 2022 | 05:46 PM
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Some people get it wrong. Time zone, DST, turning off "auto," who knows.
The offer is probably welcomed by many.
LOL isn't it automatic like a cell phone? Or is that only for cars with GPS?

How would that work:

Time changes on Sunday, dealer service not usually open, you call service department on Monday, get an appointment for next week, and all this time your clock is still wrong in your car until then?
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Old Mar 12, 2022 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by E55 KEV
LOL isn't it automatic like a cell phone? Or is that only for cars with GPS?

How would that work:

Time changes on Sunday, dealer service not usually open, you call service department on Monday, get an appointment for next week, and all this time your clock is still wrong in your car until then?
and... you are either one hour early or late to the appointment because you rely on the clock in your vehicle and forget to check your phone's time the day of the appointment. Which means you miss your appointment and have to schedule one again. I guess it would be helpful if the email was more personalized and said you have a "GLE 63s" for example and to change the time specifically for this vehicle you can do this and that. Then alternatively we can do it for you at no cost at the dealership. (second option is for those who still wants to get it done in person).

That said, in my W205 C-Class for some reason I need to choose DST on or off every time the timezone changes and it isn't automatic. Yes for me it is synced to the GPS time but it is automatically adjusted if the DST is set to on or off. So... um... I don't know. My family member's W213 E-Class also does the same, it is for some reason not fully automatic.
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Old Mar 12, 2022 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
That said, in my W205 C-Class for some reason I need to choose DST on or off every time the timezone changes and it isn't automatic. Yes for me it is synced to the GPS time but it is automatically adjusted if the DST is set to on or off. So... um... I don't know. My family member's W213 E-Class also does the same, it is for some reason not fully automatic.
GPS time does not include DST information since not every part of world, not even every US state observes DST, and different regions of the world go to DST and back on different dates. DST is a local decision that is made on the device itself based on its location and DST tables. Since the DST rules change over time, older cars likely have outdated information so they don't change correctly on the correct date. Timezone and DST information is part of the map data and needs to be updated. Based on your current location COMAND/MBUX figures out whether your location observes DST or not, and then automatically changes if necessary. Not every model has automatic DST/timezone capabilities, though. GPS just sends out UTC time and COMAND/MBUX figures out local time/DST from that based on the current location. My 2019 C63S figures it out automatically and adjusts DST on the correct dates, and also changes timezone automatically while crossing into another timezone. At that point it also has to reevaluate DST. For example since Arizona doesn't observe DST, if I were to drive from California to Arizona during DST, it will correctly adjust the time when crossing into Arizona.

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Old Mar 12, 2022 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
GPS time does not include DST information since not every part of world, not even every US state observes DST, and different regions of the world go to DST and back on different dates. DST is a local decision that is made on the device itself based on its location and DST tables. Since the DST rules change over time, older cars likely have outdated information so they don't change correctly on the correct date. Timezone and DST information is part of the map data and needs to be updated. Based on your current location COMAND/MBUX figures out whether your location observes DST or not, and then automatically changes if necessary. Not every model has automatic DST/timezone capabilities, though. GPS just sends out UTC time and COMAND/MBUX figures out local time/DST from that based on the current location. My 2019 C63S figures it out automatically and adjusts DST on the correct dates, and also changes timezone automatically while crossing into another timezone. At that point it also has to reevaluate DST. For example since Arizona doesn't observe DST, if I were to drive from California to Arizona during DST, it will correctly adjust the time when crossing into Arizona.
Thanks for chiming in, superswiss, that answers my question. Ontario is thinking of making DST permanent so it would be annoying if the car changes itself when it is no longer needed.
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 12:47 PM
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Interesting, but logical.

Our '18 S560 has always [I think!] switched its analog clock correctly. My EQS450 went through last spring's change, but I honestly don't recall if it did automatically here in Kentucky's Eastern Time Zone. As soon as I can get to it, I'll check it out. I'm wondering now if my changing the driver's dash from the tachometer to an analog clock would affect the time shown. Logic says it should not.
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Old Nov 3, 2024 | 08:49 AM
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Speaking of which, didn't they say at one point (or so I heard) they are sticking with permanent DST, why are they still switching back?
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lol congress is too stupid to do anything useful
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It’s called an advertisement. Yes you can do it yourself. Some people may want to go in to the dealer for a 3 minute “fix”. In the meantime check out any new models grab a complimentary drink.
Ultimately they will try to upsell you a service while you’re there.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Speaking of which, didn't they say at one point (or so I heard) they are sticking with permanent DST, why are they still switching back?
In the US at least, the House passed a bill, but the Senate never picked it up. The US Congress is busy owning each other and pedaling conspiracy theories. What do you expect if there are members who literally believe the other side can control the weather. A bunch of morons in control that haven't actually done anything for the people in a long time, other than worrying about themselves staying in power.
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Exactly, anything to get us into the steealership. Great marketing ploy though. Upsell a service or get you into a new Merc.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
In the US at least, the House passed a bill, but the Senate never picked it up. The US Congress is busy owning each other and pedaling conspiracy theories. What do you expect if there are members who literally believe the other side can control the weather. A bunch of morons in control that haven't actually done anything for the people in a long time, other than worrying about themselves staying in power.
I see, Ontario also passed it in 2019 so thought we are just waiting for USA to implement the changes, guess something else is holding it back.
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Exactly, anything to get us into the steealership. Great marketing ploy though. Upsell a service or get you into a new Merc.
It's a Service they provide for those who need it.
Most people can tell, all by themselves, if their clock changed. If it didn't and they don't know how to fix the settings, it's likely a welcome announcement.
If their clock is correct, I'll bet they know that they don't need to go in to verify.
It's free, anyway.
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Old Nov 3, 2024 | 02:28 PM
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lol congress is too stupid to do anything useful
IMO it's best that they don't do anything.
It usually hurts when they take action.
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