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Old May 16, 2022 | 01:57 PM
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Hello folks,
Anyone uses a GLE53 with air suspension to tow a trailer?
I have a travel trailer and have been using weight distribution bars even prior to my current GLE53.
I adjusted the bars nicely and mildly tight. After an hour of driving, the bars got loosened. Visually, it seems to me that the back of the car slightly went up.
Is it possible that the height of the air suspension can adjust itself based on some factors?
Thanks for your insights.
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Old May 16, 2022 | 04:10 PM
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I've towed a small trailer 2500 lbs with my GLE63s with no problems. The air suspension will self adjust.
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Old May 17, 2022 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowriver
Hello folks,
Anyone uses a GLE53 with air suspension to tow a trailer?
I have a travel trailer and have been using weight distribution bars even prior to my current GLE53.
I adjusted the bars nicely and mildly tight. After an hour of driving, the bars got loosened. Visually, it seems to me that the back of the car slightly went up.
Is it possible that the height of the air suspension can adjust itself based on some factors?
Thanks for your insights.
Does your GLE recognize the trailer is connected? If not you may experience the lowering of the vehicle at speed or setting the drive mode to sport etc. will change the height. Make sure you set the weight distribution bars with the GLE at normal height and with the engine running.
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Old May 19, 2022 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowriver
Hello folks,
Anyone uses a GLE53 with air suspension to tow a trailer?
I have a travel trailer and have been using weight distribution bars even prior to my current GLE53.
I adjusted the bars nicely and mildly tight. After an hour of driving, the bars got loosened. Visually, it seems to me that the back of the car slightly went up.
Is it possible that the height of the air suspension can adjust itself based on some factors?
Thanks for your insights.
in my experiences weight distribution/sway bars. Sometimes are not recommended with vehicles with air suspension. Unless you have the ability to turn the air suspension/self adjusting suspension off.
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Old May 20, 2022 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by marchgroupinc
Does your GLE recognize the trailer is connected? If not you may experience the lowering of the vehicle at speed or setting the drive mode to sport etc. will change the height. Make sure you set the weight distribution bars with the GLE at normal height and with the engine running.
Yes it recognizes the trailer. When the trailer is hooked, I can switch on to sport mode but the suspension doesn't lower as it usually does, I guess this is normal with a trailer.
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Old May 20, 2022 | 08:19 AM
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The problem is that I couldn't find anywhere any recommendation with regards to the weight distribution bar for GLE53.
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Old May 20, 2022 | 08:20 AM
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in my experiences weight distribution/sway bars. Sometimes are not recommended with vehicles with air suspension. Unless you have the ability to turn the air suspension/self adjusting suspension off.
The problem is that I couldn't find anywhere any recommendation with regards to the weight distribution bar for GLE53.
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Old May 20, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BornAgain1973
in my experiences weight distribution/sway bars. Sometimes are not recommended with vehicles with air suspension. Unless you have the ability to turn the air suspension/self adjusting suspension off.
The need for a weight distribution hitch doesn't change, whether you have air suspension or not. The difference is the setup, not the need.
You are correct, you need to disable the air suspension in order to set up the hitch properly.
My source, Can-Am RV in Ontario Canada, said to turn off the ignition and leave the door open.
Then perform your adjustments on your setup.
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Originally Posted by yellowriver
The problem is that I couldn't find anywhere any recommendation with regards to the weight distribution bar for GLE53.
The general rule for selecting weight distribution capacity, is to know your tongue weight and the weight of your entire hitch assembly.
Select your weight to distribution bar strength, to match that combined weight.

There is a diagram on the Mercedes hitch that shows capacities along with a diagram for ball placement in relation to the hitch.

And there is a payload sticker on your driver's door post, that shows your maximum payload and Axle gross weight ratings (GAWR). Payload is probably your limiting factor, and includes not only passenger and cargo, but that tongue weight and hitch weight is part of payload.

On our RV, the tongue weight is 740 lbs, and hitch weighs 90#. So I run 850 lb bars.

Sway control is most important. Friction sway control is the most effective, and I run a pair of cheap $40 friction sway bars which IMO are the most effective.
Always make sure your tongue weight is at least 10 - 12% of your total trailer weight, to discourage trailer sway.

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Old May 23, 2022 | 08:35 PM
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The need for a weight distribution hitch doesn't change, whether you have air suspension or not. The difference is the setup, not the need.
You are correct, you need to disable the air suspension in order to set up the hitch properly.
My source, Can-Am RV in Ontario Canada, said to turn off the ignition and leave the door open.
Then perform your adjustments on your setup.
A bit confused, is it the combination of turning off the ignition and open the door that disable the air suspension? And what does disable mean? Leave it at a preset height?
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Old May 23, 2022 | 08:39 PM
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The general rule for selecting weight distribution capacity, is to know your tongue weight and the weight of your entire hitch assembly.
Select your weight to distribution bar strength, to match that combined weight.

There is a diagram on the Mercedes hitch that shows capacities along with a diagram for ball placement in relation to the hitch.

And there is a payload sticker on your driver's door post, that shows your maximum payload and Axle gross weight ratings (GAWR). Payload is probably your limiting factor, and includes not only passenger and cargo, but that tongue weight and hitch weight is part of payload.

On our RV, the tongue weight is 740 lbs, and hitch weighs 90#. So I run 850 lb bars.

Sway control is most important. Friction sway control is the most effective, and I run a pair of cheap $40 friction sway bars which IMO are the most effective.
Always make sure your tongue weight is at least 10 - 12% of your total trailer weight, to discourage trailer sway.
I'm towing the same trailer that I used to tow with a GLE450 with spring suspension. And also using the same weight distribution bars I used with the GLE450, which worked fine. And I did a trip 3 days ago with no weight distribution bar nor sway bar and the driving felt good, I couldn't even make the difference with or without the bars. But I still like using the weight distribution bars just to equalize the weight on the front and back axle.
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Originally Posted by yellowriver
A bit confused, is it the combination of turning off the ignition and open the door that disable the air suspension? And what does disable mean? Leave it at a preset height?
You don't want any intervention from the air suspension while you are adjusting your WDH. Otherwise you can't judge how much weight transfer you are getting.

There are so many things that the car can do, to change its automatic leveling. Some are of these are with the ignition off, and some seem to sense the presence of a key.
So the best way immobilize the suspension on a new model Mercedes, my RV dealer says, is to turn the ignition off, and leave the door ajar.

I haven't set up my new 53 yet, or any other air suspended tow vehicle for that matter. But the guidance is the same from every thing I have read, regarding disabling a self leveling suspension.

Once your tow vehicle senses a seven pin is plugged in, I understand that it fixes the height at the "comfort" height, to keep the trailer leveling consistent.
Please verify that towing height, but once you have done that then you can choose your ball mount rise or drop.

And then begin setting up your weight distribution tensions.

Once you have your WDH adjusted and you turn on your car, your air suspension will take over and adjust for different loading and passengers, but the weight transfer from the WDH will remain constant, which is what you want.
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Originally Posted by yellowriver
I'm towing the same trailer that I used to tow with a GLE450 with spring suspension. And also using the same weight distribution bars I used with the GLE450, which worked fine. And I did a trip 3 days ago with no weight distribution bar nor sway bar and the driving felt good, I couldn't even make the difference with or without the bars. But I still like using the weight distribution bars just to equalize the weight on the front and back axle.
What it sounds like is that you're not getting sufficient weight distributed to the front axles of your tow vehicle.
You may have lucked out and have a sufficient percentage of the full trailer weight on the tongue (10 to 12%), which helps reduce sway tendencies.
But if you change your loading, that might be when you really need more weight transfer to be safe.

What's the total weight of your trailer and its tongue weight?
If it's under say 3500 lb you might get by with careful loading and simple sway control.

Above that and I'd want to size my bars correctly and do a full setup, starting from scratch with the correct ball height.

Good luck.
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