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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 10:30 AM
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GLe53 2021 paddle shift lag

I have a 2021 gle53 when i use the paddle shift there is like a 3 seconds lag, if i don't shift 3 sec before de red line and does a crazy mishift and a huge kick. normal?
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 12:10 PM
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On my 20204 53, the paddle shift reaction is not instant, but it doesnt sound as bad as how you describe yours. I have a issue with the downshift. That is very slow when clicking down on gears at highway speeds.
But assuming mine is the "new and improved" model if I still have lag at only 3k miles your 2021 lag could be normal?
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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gle53stage2
I have a 2021 gle53 when i use the paddle shift there is like a 3 seconds lag, if i don't shift 3 sec before de red line and does a crazy mishift and a huge kick. normal?
I think you're hitting the rev limiter, which can be shockingly abrupt. It does take a couple of seconds to reapply power. Whiplash!

I agree that the paddle shifter isn't lightning quick, and it takes a little anticipation to get the shift done before the rev limiter kicks in.

I'd say there's about 1/2 second lag, and if you're accelerating in first or second gear, you have to hit the shift at about 5800 RPM for it to occur before the 6500 rev limiter.
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Old Dec 7, 2023 | 09:10 PM
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I think you're hitting the rev limiter, which can be shockingly abrupt. It does take a couple of seconds to reapply power. Whiplash!

I agree that the paddle shifter isn't lightning quick, and it takes a little anticipation to get the shift done before the rev limiter kicks in.

I'd say there's about 1/2 second lag, and if you're accelerating in first or second gear, you have to hit the shift at about 5800 RPM for it to occur before the 6500 rev limiter.
Weird, I have a 23 GLE 53 and never feel any shift lag. I use the HUD that tells me the optimal shift time.
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mr inkredibul
Weird, I have a 23 GLE 53 and never feel any shift lag. I use the HUD that tells me the optimal shift time.
What rev do you hit the paddle in first gear? If you hit it 6400 RPM, will it shift before the 6500 rev limit?

I sure can't with my head up display! Not first or second gear because the revs climb so quickly.

In reality, the AMG-tuned automatic does a terrific job for me, with the exception of down shifting into first, when I have to coax it with the paddle.

The car has one aggressive rev limiter, and I'd rather not meet it.🙂
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Old Dec 15, 2023 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mr inkredibul
Weird, I have a 23 GLE 53 and never feel any shift lag. I use the HUD that tells me the optimal shift time.
Well, I take it back. See my previous post. It was wrong. The darn thing shifts great!

I haven't really been aggressive with the car for over a year, so I went out, got warmed up, and spent some time playing with shifting and the HUD.

The paddles are lightning fast, and the HUD's color changing shift points on the tach are very informative, including a bouncing red hash, giving enough time to make the shift before the rev limiter. Yes, in response to myself, if I wait until 6400 RPM it will shift before the rev limiter at 6500.

I had a major software update last fall, to correct the synthetic exhaust sound through the speakers.
It took 6 hours of download time after the swap of a module, and several things were changed. Including reprogramming of the AMG ride control active sway bars (initially softer), and apparently this.

Formerly, the HUD had two optional tach displays but neither had the red bar across the top. I was always jealous when I watched the cockpit views during F1 races. No longer. 😀

Does yours have the red shift-indicating bar in the HUD?


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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 11:20 PM
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Does yours have the red shift-indicating bar in the HUD?
Yes but those only appear in Manual Mode. There's also a small display for the gear indicator in the dash that should say Up with an arrow..or maybe just the up arrow..when you're in manual mode if my memory serves me correctly.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 11:39 AM
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Also, if you put the car in Sports+ mode, the shifts are darn fast even more so in manual mode if you are experiencing any lag, I would assume you are in C or regular S mode by chance?
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 01:00 PM
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Also, if you put the car in Sports+ mode, the shifts are darn fast even more so in manual mode if you are experiencing any lag, I would assume you are in C or regular S mode by chance?
No, full-on everything, 'I' mode, at the track.

The behavior has changed since my update.

I'll also comment that RJ Engineering enabled Race Mode, although it didn't make any obvious changes to tranny, engine or other modes I had set in my 'I' mode.

Either way, I now see a useable color-changing shift bar and the shifts are immediate.

I still struggle with downshifts in Manual, though. They are prevented if it would result in an over-rev, but all I get is a red display showing the shift was denied. I.e. "try again!"

The AMG SpeedShift automatic TCT has been exceptional, upshifting and downshifting. Except that I still have to coax it into first in low speed (<40mph) corners for a good exit.
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wow...you are tacking this big 'ole SUV at the track? good for you!
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wow...you are tacking this big 'ole SUV at the track? good for you!
I spec'd it for occasional track days, with DPP & ARC, big red brakes, no pano roof.

I couldn't afford a track car, and we tow a 27' RV, so "big 'ole SUV" it was.

I kept getting comments that my black car looked like I was Secret Service in training.😀

The car does quite well, circulating with with the S2000s and 944s. WRX's are way behind, much to their chagrin.

I need more seat, and more front grip.
I am on 21-in Conti all seasons, having skipped the 22s because of their limited availability. I'll probably go UHP 21s with 220 wear ratings next time. The 21s overheat pretty quickly. But then I'd need a lot more seat!

It's the heaviest car and the first AWD I've taken to the track.
It really doesn't feel like 5,200 lbs, and I achieved my goals of knowing the limits of the car and having fun.
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That is a very cool story....I was fortunate at one point to have a 997.2 that was my daily driver and also a track car 2-3 times a year nothing lets you explore the boundaries of a car like a safe, wide open track was exhilarating be safe!
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That is a very cool story....I was fortunate at one point to have a 997.2 that was my daily driver and also a track car 2-3 times a year nothing lets you explore the boundaries of a car like a safe, wide open track was exhilarating be safe!
The Dot 2 must have been a pleasure.😀
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