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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 05:59 PM
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MBUX Just Quit

Suddenly three days ago MBUX on my '22 GLE53 just stopped working. I have no map, no navigation, no favorites and no voice activation via "Hey Mercedes." Thankfully Sirius XM and on the radio functions are okay and other functions such as"Vehicle"are working. For the past 3 days the navigation screen says "Activating Navigation."

I have restarted the system and reset the system to know avail. Customer service has no answers. I have an appointment for service on Friday. It seems like an automatic software update may have occurred and it is defective. Anyone else having similar problems?

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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 10:04 PM
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I had a similar freeze happen about a week ago, but mine was stuck on the initial System Start screen (or whatever it's called) with the AMG logo IIRC. Shutting the car off and starting it again fixed it. No issue since.

I've seen it hang there before, esp. after Sirius XM updates, but never for more than maybe 10 seconds. This time it was well over 2 minutes when I gave up and shut the car off and restarted it.

Too much software in these new cars makes it hard for a mfg to test every use case and release "perfect" updates that work 100%. Just gotta live with the gremlins I 'spose.

I'll be curious to know how the dealer fixes it for you - maybe a system reset or new software flash? Keep us posted.
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 09:33 AM
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There's a number of causes, but it's probably the internal HDD that has started failing.
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 12:12 PM
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I had a similar situation a month or so ago. Restarting the car didn't help, and waiting didn't help, so I took it out of the garage and parked it outside for a couple of hours.

My thought process was that it might be in the middle of a download that was hampered by being in the garage.

Whether that was right or wrong I don't know, but next time I started the car it was fine.

​​​​​​A slow download is a stretch - just throwing out ideas.
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 03:17 PM
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There's a number of causes, but it's probably the internal HDD that has started failing.
Genuine Q: do these HU's still use a HDD vs a SSD? I don't hear and spinning noise, so if a HDD is in use it is very quiet/insulated. Hmmmm......
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxslk
Genuine Q: do these HU's still use a HDD vs a SSD? I don't hear and spinning noise, so if a HDD is in use it is very quiet/insulated. Hmmmm......
Yo! Please define your acronyms: HU, HDD, SSD. Thanks much.

MY MBUX (Mercedes Benz User Experience) is still hung up.
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 07:25 PM
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Yo! Please define your acronyms: HU, HDD, SSD. Thanks much.

MY MBUX (Mercedes Benz User Experience) is still hung up.
Head Unit, Hard Disk Drive, Solid State Drive
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 10:08 PM
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Head Unit, Hard Disk Drive, Solid State Drive
Beat me to it. Ty!

Sorry I was typing fast. I'll skip the acronyms next time.
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxslk
Beat me to it. Ty!

Sorry I was typing fast. I'll skip the acronyms next time.
It's almost impossible to avoid acronyms when dealing with Mercedes names and options! AMG GLE w/AMG ARC or E-ABC.

BTW do you know the acronym for "Acronym?"
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Dym Abbreviated Coded Rendition Of Name Yielding Meaning?
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Old Jan 10, 2024 | 03:17 AM
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Old Jan 10, 2024 | 04:00 PM
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I return to the question, HDD or SSD?
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Old Jan 10, 2024 | 05:15 PM
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QUICK TEST from my local MB (Mercedes Benz) dealer

Without a hard-wired connection to my GLE53, my local dealer did a "Quick test" in about 15 minutes as I waited in the check-in area. I did not have an appointment -- I just showed up unannounced. The only info that the dealer had was a a photo of my nearly-blank Navigation Screen that read "Activating Navigation" as it had been doing for 3-4 days. So all of the info in this Quick test came from a server somewhere that had this info from my GLE. Here's some of what the test revealed and for each test. The versions and manufacturers of the hardware and software were listed:

ALC213 N162 - Ambiance light (AML)
U112787: Communication with one or more color generation and coupling modules on LIN bus 6 has a malfunction. The message is missing
U112287: Communication with one or more color generation and coupling modules on LIN bus 1 has a malfunction. The message is missing
U112587: Communication with one or more color generation and coupling modules on LIN bus 4 has a malfunction. The message is missing
SPC167AMG N51/8 AMG RIDE CONTROL sports suspension (Active suspension)
C156685: The left rear vehicle level is outside the tolerance. There is a signal above the permissible limit value.
C156885: The right rear vehicle level is outside the tolerance. There is a signal above the permissible limit value.
C156785: The left front vehicle level is outside the tolerance. There is a signal above the permissible limit value.
U014786: Communication with the control unit "Head unit" has a malfunction. There is an incorrect signal.
SMPC213 A40/13 Multifunction camera (MFK)
U141719: Implausible data were received from the control unit "Head unit." There is an invalid signal.
HU6 A26/7 MBUX multimedia system (Head unit)
B227B00 The specified and actual configurations of the MOST components are different.
PARKMAN213 N62 Parking sustem (PARK)
U0147866: Communication with the control unit "Head unit" has a malfunction. There is an incorrect signal.
MMR213_F1 B92/2 Left outer front short range radar (NBR-LF)
C111A00: Radar sensor 1 is disrupted by interference from an external transmitter. If there is no specific customer complaint, ignore the fault code.
MMR213_F4 B92/2 Right outer front short range radar (NBR-LF)
C111A00: Radar sensor 1 is disrupted by interference from an external transmitter. If there is no specific customer complaint, ignore the fault code.
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Then there were the following listings for which, apparently, there were no issues or fault codes:

EZS167 N73 Electronic ignition lock (EZS)
SEATD167 N32/1 Electric seat adjustment "Drivers" (ESA "Driver")
SEATD167 N32/2 Electric seat adjustment "Front passenger" (ESA "Front passenger")
BC_F213 N10/6 Front signal acquisition and actuation module (Driver-side SAM)
MCMS_FL213 N32/15 Left front multi contour seat (MKS-LF)
HVAC222 N22/1 Air conditioning (AAC)
VTA177 N26/6 ATA [EDW] /tow-away protection/interior protection (ATA)
SWSP177 N135 Steering wheel electronics (LRE)
RBTMFL167 A76 Left front reversible emergency tensioning retractor (RevETR-LF)
DRVYU-NG N145/1 AMG DRIVE UNIT (AMG DRVU)
EPS167 N68 Electrical power steering (ES)
TC167 N15/7 (VGS control unit) Transfer case (VG)
FSCM-GEN5 N118 Control unit "Fuel pump" (FSCU09)
RBTMFL167 A76/1 Right front reversible emergency tensioning retractor (RevETR-RF)
SCCM177 N80 Steering column module (SCM)
MRG1 N3/10 Motor electronics ?MRG1" for combustion engine "M256" (ME)


Pretty amazing to me that all of this info is apparently uploaded to a server and then available for download at a moments's notice. I'll let you know what the dealer says on Friday when the vehicle is in for service.

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Old Jan 16, 2024 | 12:41 PM
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MBUX Fixed

Diagnostic performed: "PERFORMED CONTROL UNIT LOG AND FOUND MBUX CONTROL UNIT ABNORMAL. FOUND LI DOCUMENT LI82.85-P-071394. REPLACED INTERNAL HARD DRIVE ON MBUX MODULE."

MB Service provided an updated "Final quick test log" which showed all is well with not fault codes for an extensive list of bout 60 items including which I found very interesting:

A26/17 MBUX multimedia system (Head Unit)
A40/16 Display cluster "Instrument cluster and head unit" (ZAN)
N133/1 Instrument Cluster (IC)
N145/1 AMG DRIVE UNIT (AMG DRVU)
G1/3 48-V on-board electrical system battery (48 V LIB)
N127 Control unit "Drivetrain" (PTCU)
N3/10 Motor electronics 'MRG1' for combustion engine
N83/1 DC/DC converter (DDW)
N62/4 Mercedes-Benz Intelligent Drive (SG-FAS)
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Originally Posted by jaxslk
Genuine Q: do these HU's still use a HDD vs a SSD? I don't hear and spinning noise, so if a HDD is in use it is very quiet/insulated. Hmmmm......
HDDs were used in MBUX prior to December 2021. Solid-state memory (soldered to PCB) is used after that.
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Did you get any updates? I work in sales and we have a 2022 AMG GLE53 and it has these codes but no dash light indicator. I'm curious as to what happened with yours so we can see if it needs to go to auction or if the warranty covered the costs
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