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Old Jan 13, 2024 | 08:43 AM
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Putting down deposit Monday…

Hello all. We are going to dealership in a couple days to put money down on an allocation for ‘24 63. Been researching, watching and re-watching videos for 6 months. At this point I literally know more about the 63 coupe than all local salespersons, managers and owners. Now that I am here, however, I could be getting cold 🦶!!

Try and talk me out of it. We are quite successful, but not overly wealthy. This is probably my last chance to truly enjoy something like this, but I can’t shake the feeling that it is total gluttony and probably irresponsible.
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Hello all. We are going to dealership in a couple days to put money down on an allocation for ‘24 63. Been researching, watching and re-watching videos for 6 months. At this point I literally know more about the 63 coupe than all local salespersons, managers and owners. Now that I am here, however, I could be getting cold 🦶!!

Try and talk me out of it. We are quite successful, but not overly wealthy. This is probably my last chance to truly enjoy something like this, but I can’t shake the feeling that it is total gluttony and probably irresponsible.
This is probably not what you want to hear but the 63s is an absolute blast to own/drive. I was also hesitant, had some concerns about fuel economy, maintenance costs etc but after 3 months of ownership, absolutely no regrets. The fuel economy is slightly more than my previous GLE 450 in day to day driving but better when loaded or towing so overall it balances out. The acceleration and the sound of the exhaust puts a huge smile on my face every time I drive the car. It's been trouble free, no issues or electrical gremlins.

My sales manager who is also a good friend said with the current push to EV vehicles, this will likely be my last ICE vehicle so may as well go all out. Go for it, work hard, play hard!

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I was in the same situation when I ordered my 21 AMG53. It was the biggest check I've ever written, it was something I didn't need, and I could have gotten the same practicality with $25,000 less money.

It has given me a lot of pleasure and I'm glad I made the purchase.

However, IMO I made a serious mistake.
I balked at the $100,000 number and trimmed my options so I felt better. WRONG APPROACH!

​​​​​​I wanted the AMG ARC, but I ditched my other biggest want, the Burmester HD at $5k. (Which I had in my 20 GLE 450, so I know what I'm missing.)

So what's keeping this from this being my perfect car? Wanting to keep it long after they make us drive EV's?
You got it - no Burmester.

My point is, once you get past the 'frivolity' of buying a seriously fast auto, equip it as you want. Don't look back.

And start shopping for your next set of tires.
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I was in the same situation when I ordered my 21 AMG53. It was the biggest check I've ever written, it was something I didn't need, and I could have gotten the same practicality with $25,000 less money.

It has given me a lot of pleasure and I'm glad I made the purchase.

However, IMO I made a serious mistake.
I balked at the $100,000 number and trimmed my options so I felt better. WRONG APPROACH!

​​​​​​I wanted the AMG ARC, but I ditched my other biggest want, the Burmester HD at $5k. (Which I had in my 20 GLE 450, so I know what I'm missing.)

So what's keeping this from this being my perfect car? Wanting to keep it long after they make us drive EV's?
You got it - no Burmester.

My point is, once you get past the 'frivolity' of buying a seriously fast auto, equip it as you want. Don't look back.

And start shopping for your next set of tires.
Lol Very True!

My father once told me that the pain of the purchase will fade fairly quickly, however, the pain of living with something that's a compromise and not what you really wanted lasts a lot longer.
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One more thing to consider.... I was lucky to find a 2023 Edition 55 still available in local inventory, you could look at a 2023 model, the engine and transmission are identical, the differences on the 63 model minimal. The new AMG steering wheel which personally I'm not particularly fond of and the new MBUX system which again, there are mixed reviews on that also. I also prefer the headlights and tail lights of the pre-facelifted version but that's also personal preference. You could save some money and get virtually the same vehicle.
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Hello all. We are going to dealership in a couple days to put money down on an allocation for ‘24 63. Been researching, watching and re-watching videos for 6 months. At this point I literally know more about the 63 coupe than all local salespersons, managers and owners. Now that I am here, however, I could be getting cold 🦶!!

Try and talk me out of it. We are quite successful, but not overly wealthy. This is probably my last chance to truly enjoy something like this, but I can’t shake the feeling that it is total gluttony and probably irresponsible.
I was in the similar spot just like you. I had many back and forth and didn't pull the trigger of ordering till April last year. I picked up my car (got the SUV) right before the Christmas, it never once failed to put a smile on my face when I drive it even it spent most of its time at PPF shop. Car depreciates and sure it doesn't make a lot of sense while you can save for house down-payment, savings, kids colleage. But IMO, buy an AMG or any unique vehicle isn't just get a transport to get you from a to b but an emotional purchase. Looking at all the V8 AMGs, for me GLE sits at a very good spot for its value and purpose. You get a good pratical around town car and still relatively easy to live with everyday.

The fact you were asking here I believe deep down you know you want it. Maybe think through and do some planning, tires, added services (tire insurance, prepaid services, extended warranty), PPF & ceramic coating, etc, if spending is a concern, you can easily spend a lot more than just the MSRP so factor in everything before you decide.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 07:56 AM
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Ahoj všichni. Za pár dní jedeme do obchodního zastoupení, abychom složili peníze na alokaci pro '24 63. Zkoumali, sledovali a znovu sledovali videa po dobu 6 měsíců. V tuto chvíli vím o kupé 63 doslova víc než všichni místní prodejci, manažeři a majitelé. Teď, když jsem tady, by mi ale mohla být zima 🦶!! Zkuste mi to rozmluvit. Jsme docela úspěšní, ale ne přehnaně bohatí. Toto je pravděpodobně moje poslední šance si něco takového skutečně užít, ale nemohu se zbavit pocitu, že je to totální obžerství a pravděpodobně nezodpovědné.
I also have a visit to the dealer next month. After thinking about the configuration for a long time, I came to the conclusion that the originally selected GLE 450d with the accessories I requested is not much different in price from the AMG 53 with the same equipment. A lot of additional things are standard with AMG and as a result it is "almost" equal to the price of the tuned 450d.
After consulting with my wife, the choice is firm, after many years of traveling with diesel, I am switching to gasoline, so I go to the store to order a GLE AMG 53 coupe with full equipment. Full equipment gives me a certain feeling of freedom, I don't have to regret my non-selection of accessories later. Configuration ready and QR code waiting to load, I just hope there are no complications from the seller/manufacturer.
As you can see, with a long product selection, sometimes one ends up in a completely different place than originally expected. I wouldn't have thought that I would ever fill up with gasoline and not diesel at a gas station again.
The last time I owned a petrol car was in the 90s when I owned a Ford Probe GT.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 09:36 AM
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Thank you all!! Your thoughtful opinions. They are very helpful.

Yes, I am here asking because my mind is pretty much made up. However, if 20 of you replied “no way, worst purchase ever”, maybe I would re-think. However, I’m not sure those of you with that kind of answer would even be here lurking. So, I guess what you provided was what I should have expected.

“My father once told me that the pain of the purchase will fade fairly quickly, however, the pain of living with something that's a compromise and not what you really wanted lasts a lot longer.”…My wife wants me to ask you how long is “fairly quickly”?

Can I extend this and ask for opinions on PPF. I am thinking clear around the problem areas. I don’t really like the look of it and I’d rather not put it on the whole vehicle. Would really like flat clear, but the dealer wants 5k and can’t do that.

alpine grey coupe

BTW… trading in ‘16 GL450 that is (was) in perfect condition. Hit deer last night!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡


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Thank you all!! Your thoughtful opinions. They are very helpful.

Yes, I am here asking because my mind is pretty much made up. However, if 20 of you replied “no way, worst purchase ever”, maybe I would re-think. However, I’m not sure those of you with that kind of answer would even be here lurking. So, I guess what you provided was what I should have expected.

“My father once told me that the pain of the purchase will fade fairly quickly, however, the pain of living with something that's a compromise and not what you really wanted lasts a lot longer.”…My wife wants me to ask you how long is “fairly quickly”?

Can I extend this and ask for opinions on PPF. I am thinking clear around the problem areas. I don’t really like the look of it and I’d rather not put it on the whole vehicle. Would really like flat clear, but the dealer wants 5k and can’t do that.

alpine grey coupe

BTW… trading in ‘16 GL450 that is (was) in perfect condition. Hit deer last night!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡
"Fairly quickly" in this case was about 15 seconds after driving the car. I also debated PPF but decided against it mainly due to cost, the new stuff is totally invisible since they wrap the entire front end of the car. I opted for a high quality ceramic coating which doesn't offer any protection from stone chips but will hopefully reduce my detailing time.
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Thank you all!! Your thoughtful opinions. They are very helpful.

Yes, I am here asking because my mind is pretty much made up. However, if 20 of you replied “no way, worst purchase ever”, maybe I would re-think. However, I’m not sure those of you with that kind of answer would even be here lurking. So, I guess what you provided was what I should have expected.

“My father once told me that the pain of the purchase will fade fairly quickly, however, the pain of living with something that's a compromise and not what you really wanted lasts a lot longer.”…My wife wants me to ask you how long is “fairly quickly”?

Can I extend this and ask for opinions on PPF. I am thinking clear around the problem areas. I don’t really like the look of it and I’d rather not put it on the whole vehicle. Would really like flat clear, but the dealer wants 5k and can’t do that.

alpine grey coupe

BTW… trading in ‘16 GL450 that is (was) in perfect condition. Hit deer last night!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡
My car is still at PPF shop but I was lucky enough saw another new GLE63 done its PPF at the shop. I wouldn't go for dealer PPF, do some research and pay some visit to your local shops to see their work. It gives you better options and cheaper price.

I am in NJ boarder with NYC, and I visited pretty much all good shops in my area, a reputable shop can do front hood and high impact area for around 2500-3000. I went for full 10mm PPF for 7K and 1500 for ceramic coating (just want peace of mind). Message me if you want deatils of all quotes and options - it might help give you some ideas. They do highway coverage - includes rocker pannel and you can pretty much customize whatever way you want. Front door or bumper or whatever you choose.

Dealer wanted 3k for ceramic coating and 8k for precut 8mm PPF. They need to make a cut too so not a top tier shop nor was it cheap.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 07:49 PM
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I wish I remembered to ask you guys this earlier, as I am heading to the dealership in a couple hours

Can you guys share what you paid for extended warranty? Can you also share, if you happen to know, the dealership cost on those?

Thanks again
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I wish I remembered to ask you guys this earlier, as I am heading to the dealership in a couple hours

Can you guys share what you paid for extended warranty? Can you also share, if you happen to know, the dealership cost on those?

Thanks again
Just DM you of what my dealer offered me last week.
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My recommendation is to include the PPM negotiations during the purchase talks. Don't wait til you're in the F&I office.

Include it in your Out the Door number. Everything but taxes. PPF, PPM, winter floor mats, everything. The Sales Manager will likely discount PPM as part of a closing tool.

Much more readily than the F&I person, whose pay is determined by that markup.
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My recommendation is to include the PPM negotiations during the purchase talks. Don't wait til you're in the F&I office.

Include it in your Out the Door number. Everything but taxes. PPF, PPM, winter floor mats, everything. The Sales Manager will likely discount PPM as part of a closing tool.

Much more readily than the F&I person, whose pay is determined by that markup.
Couldn't agree more.
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Well, I left dealership without a deal.

Very frustrated. Can anyone offer any indication of how much the dealership would be making on the following that they are offering me?

Simply…

1% off MSRP of ‘24 AMG GLE 63S (msrp is $142,000]
6yr/100k warranty - $6,700

thank you
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Why does that matter? Do you want the car or not?

There's always a better deal somewhere, but even if there's not, you can keep wondering forever.
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LOL! Because, maybe unlike you, I don’t have money to burn.
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Originally Posted by ScottBaer
Well, I left dealership without a deal.

Very frustrated. Can anyone offer any indication of how much the dealership would be making on the following that they are offering me?

Simply…

1% off MSRP of ‘24 AMG GLE 63S (msrp is $142,000]
6yr/100k warranty - $6,700

thank you
Have you considered a 2023 model? Essentially the exact same car if you can find one. The discounts will be much better on a 23 model.
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Are you at all considering the GLE53?, or only the 63? I had a '19 E63s sedan and I can say, the power was indeed amazing however, in this SUV coupe, I find that the 53 is more than adequate and around $40K less as you know as for price, I believe that the AMG models remain in hot demand, and in many regards, paying MSRP is fair given the limited supply there were two dealerships here in S FL one wanted $10K over, whether on lot or ordering, which I passed on I then "ordered" my desired spec, and paid the sticker price and am happy I would Test drive the 53 you may be pleasantly surprised
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Originally Posted by ScottBaer
Well, I left dealership without a deal.

Very frustrated. Can anyone offer any indication of how much the dealership would be making on the following that they are offering me?

Simply…

1% off MSRP of ‘24 AMG GLE 63S (msrp is $142,000]
6yr/100k warranty - $6,700

thank you
Try different dealerships and usually if vehicle is in inventory you’re likely to get better deal. MBCA offers $500 towards purchase of a GLE also if you have AMEX they offer $500 on GLE. The extended warranty you don’t have to purchase right away you can wait and purchase before original warranty expires 4/50000 miles and you can check with different dealerships on better pricing. Best wishes with whatever you choose.
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Try different dealerships and usually if vehicle is in inventory you’re likely to get better deal. MBCA offers $500 towards purchase of a GLE also if you have AMEX they offer $500 on GLE. The extended warranty you don’t have to purchase right away you can wait and purchase before original warranty expires 4/50000 miles and you can check with different dealerships on better pricing. Best wishes with whatever you choose.
Thank you all again for taking the time to assist.

There is only one in the country with the spec I want and it is 2500 miles away.

I started down the road with another local dealership and so far a good experience.
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Originally Posted by ScottBaer
Well, I left dealership without a deal.

Very frustrated. Can anyone offer any indication of how much the dealership would be making on the following that they are offering me?

Simply…

1% off MSRP of ‘24 AMG GLE 63S (msrp is $142,000]
6yr/100k warranty - $6,700

thank you
Nobody knows for sure unless you get your hands on the list price. My advice to you is.

1. Based on what the car comes out to be, think of the number out the door you would like to pay (reasonable of course) and stick to it. If they don't agree with it, simply thank them and you take your money elsewhere.
2. Be ready for post-calls and text-messages galore. You tell them you made an offer and unless they accept it, you don't need to be called anymore.
3. If you really want this vehicle and particular spec, you would be will ing to travel the 2500 miles where you found another example. Typically, I dealership will put you up for the night and provide transportation, etc. for out of state buyers. This was the case when I purchased my SLK 350 in North Carolina (I live in FL).
4. Consider a MY2023. They will be a hell of a lot cheaper and in my opinion better than MY2024.

I read you are currently at another dealership and things are looking up. Hope you are able to close a deal.
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Yes, at another dealer who is a pleasure to deal with. Told them where I’m at and we are moving forward.

thank you for your advice!!

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Yes, at another dealer who is a pleasure to deal with. Told them where I’m at and we are moving forward.

thank you for your advice!!
Hope you were able to close.
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