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Old May 6, 2025 | 01:33 PM
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That particular issue is common though I linked the other thread on a diy fix using 3D printed versions of the clip.
very nice, thank you. I was told the entire railing is bend and cannot operate. Not sure if they told me the truth...I guess it's too late but I sure will keep this handy! Thank you!
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Old May 6, 2025 | 01:59 PM
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very nice, thank you. I was told the entire railing is bend and cannot operate. Not sure if they told me the truth...I guess it's too late but I sure will keep this handy! Thank you!
You're welcome : ) If you do end up getting the GLE 53, you won't have to worry about this at all anymore, I mean you do have the warranty on the GLE 53 after all.
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Please don't base your buying decisions on AI.

Here's a suspicious comment from the previous post:
2025 Model: Utilizes AMG Ride Control+ air suspension with adaptive damping.

AMG Ride Control+ was part of a $5000 package. Very low buyer uptake. I'd be surprised if it was standard in 2025. Or 2026.

AI is an unreliable source at present state of development.
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Old May 6, 2025 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
Please don't base your buying decisions on AI.

Here's a suspicious comment from the previous post:
2025 Model: Utilizes AMG Ride Control+ air suspension with adaptive damping.

AMG Ride Control+ was part of a $5000 package. Very low buyer uptake. I'd be surprised if it was standard in 2025. Or 2026.

AI is an unreliable source at present state of development.
Exactly!

I was hoping you chime in since you know the GLE 53 very well. Thank you for joining the party
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Old May 6, 2025 | 05:11 PM
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For kicks and grins, I decided to build a GLE 53 online. The pricing and build for the GLE 53 & 63S is currently down with price pending. Neither are they (Coupe GLE 53 & 63S) even mentioned under the AMG section. If not even listed under the AMG, I think maybe the E versions are coming. (THINK is the operative word as I have no real knowledge) The GLE 63S E is listed. Hmmmm.



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Old May 6, 2025 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by timotat
For kicks and grins, I decided to build a GLE 53 online. The pricing and build for the GLE 53 & 63S is currently down with price pending. Neither are they (Coupe GLE 53 & 63S) even mentioned under the AMG section. If not even listed under the AMG, I think maybe the E versions are coming. (THINK is the operative word as I have no real knowledge) The GLE 63S E is listed. Hmmmm.

Is that usd?
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Old May 6, 2025 | 05:17 PM
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Old May 6, 2025 | 05:20 PM
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Yes, US dollars.
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Originally Posted by timotat
I thought they were discontinuing it? https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c43-a...g-c43-c63.html
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Crap. I misread that as a GLE, not GLC. So the GLE Coupes aren't even listed under AMG. As far as the GLC 63 S E, I haven't looked at them. The screenshot is from the MBUSA site just a few minutes ago.
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Originally Posted by timotat
Crap. I misread that as a GLE, not GLC. So the GLE Coupes aren't even listed under AMG. As far as the GLC 63 S E, I haven't looked at them. The screenshot is from the MBUSA site just a few minutes ago.
Hmmm that is strange.
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Old May 6, 2025 | 06:21 PM
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Could it be they are preparing for 2026 model year?
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Old May 7, 2025 | 06:51 AM
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Could it be they are preparing for 2026 model year?
Don’t know, but everything is back the way it was this morning. Seems like someone jumped with part of an update a little early.
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Old May 7, 2025 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
Please don't base your buying decisions on AI.

Here's a suspicious comment from the previous post:
2025 Model: Utilizes AMG Ride Control+ air suspension with adaptive damping.

AMG Ride Control+ was part of a $5000 package. Very low buyer uptake. I'd be surprised if it was standard in 2025. Or 2026.

AI is an unreliable source at present state of development.
While searching the web, I came across some articles saying in 2026, the GLE 53 AMG coupe will come with PHEV and those will be part of the 2027 models. Another articles read that the GLE 53 AMG coupe which get released at the end of 2025, will be PHEV (which makes them the 2026 model released in 2025).

Can't figure out which ones is correct. What I am trying to avoid is purchasing a PHEV model, have you by any chance seen come across a valid source on this?
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Old May 7, 2025 | 08:48 AM
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For kicks and grins, I decided to build a GLE 53 online. The pricing and build for the GLE 53 & 63S is currently down with price pending. Neither are they (Coupe GLE 53 & 63S) even mentioned under the AMG section. If not even listed under the AMG, I think maybe the E versions are coming. (THINK is the operative word as I have no real knowledge) The GLE 63S E is listed. Hmmmm.

Great info, thank you for sharing. Was this by any chance a 2026 model? If so, does that mean:
1. The 2026 has no AMG version of the GLE 53 Coupe?
2. The 2026 comes in "e" version only meaning PHEV probably?
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Old May 7, 2025 | 10:21 AM
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Something I noticed was when I started the engine on the 2025 GLE 450, I couldn't tell if the car is on of off, there was no engine sound, just a message on the screen reading ready to drive. When I pushed the start engine button on the GLE 350 loaner, I could hear the engine. If there are both mild hybrid, what makes them be different when the engine starts?

Also, is there a way to turn off the mild hybrid (even temporarily)? If so, will that be done by just pressing the echo button?
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Old May 7, 2025 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparkling
Something I noticed was when I started the engine on the 2025 GLE 450, I couldn't tell if the car is on of off, there was no engine sound, just a message on the screen reading ready to drive. When I pushed the start engine button on the GLE 350 loaner, I could hear the engine. If there are both mild hybrid, what makes them be different when the engine starts?

Also, is there a way to turn off the mild hybrid (even temporarily)? If so, will that be done by just pressing the echo button?
Mild hybrid starts with gas motor and works as an electric supercharger (somewhat simplified, but I doubt you notice it is there). The PHEV will start off in electric mode. I do not believe that you can turn off the mild hybrid, or even know why you would want to as it is beneficial to getting power before exhaust builds up to spool turbos.

Glad to see that Mercedes build for the current GLE 53 is back working. With the PHEV models already showing up, I think the GLE 53 could very well have for 2026 and maybe someone was ready to post the 2026 models with the changes.
Yes, if you see an E at the end of the model name, it will be a PHEV given their current naming convention. EQ is full electric. Mild hybrid is just listed as electric assist in the motor description. If the 2025 ordering is closed, you may be forced to get a 2026 with the options you desire if you are stuck in analysis paralysis as @W205C43PFL mentioned. Again, no for sure models named yet for 2026 as far as the GLE 53 Coupes go.
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Old May 7, 2025 | 11:07 AM
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Mild hybrid starts with gas motor and works as an electric supercharger (somewhat simplified, but I doubt you notice it is there). The PHEV will start off in electric mode. I do not believe that you can turn off the mild hybrid, or even know why you would want to as it is beneficial to getting power before exhaust builds up to spool turbos.

Glad to see that Mercedes build for the current GLE 53 is back working. With the PHEV models already showing up, I think the GLE 53 could very well have for 2026 and maybe someone was ready to post the 2026 models with the changes.
Yes, if you see an E at the end of the model name, it will be a PHEV given their current naming convention. EQ is full electric. Mild hybrid is just listed as electric assist in the motor description. If the 2025 ordering is closed, you may be forced to get a 2026 with the options you desire if you are stuck in analysis paralysis as @W205C43PFL mentioned. Again, no for sure models named yet for 2026 as far as the GLE 53 Coupes go.
Thank you for the info. Still curious to know what makes some MB mild hybrid cars make that start engine sound and the others don't. (350 vs 450)
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Old May 7, 2025 | 11:22 AM
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Thank you for the info. Still curious to know what makes some MB mild hybrid cars make that start engine sound and the others don't. (350 vs 450)
Maybe you are comparing AMG to non AMG. Hopefully the following helps. Also, when it starts in electric, does the motor fire right up afterwards?

From the MBUSA webpage for GLE:
"Every GLE pairs turbo power with a hybrid Integrated Starter-Generator that can add torque electrically. Choose from the spirited 255-hp turbo-4 GLE 350, smooth inline-6 turbo 375-hp GLE 450, or potent 510-hp biturbo V8 GLE 580."

From the MBUSA webpage for GLE Coupe:
"The natural smoothness of an inline-6 pairs with the seamless electric boost of a hybrid Integrated Starter-Generator. The ISG can add 20 hp and 148 lb-ft of torque, gas-free, to the turbocharged engine's 375 hp and 369 lb-ft, good for 0-60 in 5.3 seconds."
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Maybe you are comparing AMG to non AMG. Hopefully the following helps. Also, when it starts in electric, does the motor fire right up afterwards?

From the MBUSA webpage for GLE:
"Every GLE pairs turbo power with a hybrid Integrated Starter-Generator that can add torque electrically. Choose from the spirited 255-hp turbo-4 GLE 350, smooth inline-6 turbo 375-hp GLE 450, or potent 510-hp biturbo V8 GLE 580."

From the MBUSA webpage for GLE Coupe:
"The natural smoothness of an inline-6 pairs with the seamless electric boost of a hybrid Integrated Starter-Generator. The ISG can add 20 hp and 148 lb-ft of torque, gas-free, to the turbocharged engine's 375 hp and 369 lb-ft, good for 0-60 in 5.3 seconds."
Just to add, here is the verbiage for the PHEV:
"A plug-in hybrid offers the long range of a turbo gasoline engine with the local benefits of a powerful electric motor and 23.3kWh battery. Up to 49 miles of electric range lets you handle many around-town driving tasks on electricity alone, without using any gasoline."
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Just to add, here is the verbiage for the PHEV:
"A plug-in hybrid offers the long range of a turbo gasoline engine with the local benefits of a powerful electric motor and 23.3kWh battery. Up to 49 miles of electric range lets you handle many around-town driving tasks on electricity alone, without using any gasoline."
I just messaged the dealership I had the loaner from last week, I could swear it was a 450 but the guy just messaged me back saying he thinks it was a 580. I don't remember much besides the fact that I could not tell if the car is on of off. vs this 350 which is not only lacking major acceleration but is also not as good looking as that other one!
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Originally Posted by Sparkling
I just messaged the dealership I had the loaner from last week, I could swear it was a 450 but the guy just messaged me back saying he thinks it was a 580. I don't remember much besides the fact that I could not tell if the car is on of off. vs this 350 which is not only lacking major acceleration but is also not as good looking as that other one!
A 580? nice you got to try the V8, i don't recall the V8 having the mild hybrid? or maybe it does?
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Oh it does have it: https://www.mbusa.com/en/vehicles/mo...e/suv/gle580w4

I wonder if it always had it or the facelift brought the mild hybrid to the 580 as well.
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Originally Posted by timotat
Mild hybrid starts with gas motor and works as an electric supercharger (somewhat simplified, but I doubt you notice it is there). The PHEV will start off in electric mode. I do not believe that you can turn off the mild hybrid, or even know why you would want to as it is beneficial to getting power before exhaust builds up to spool turbos.

Glad to see that Mercedes build for the current GLE 53 is back working. With the PHEV models already showing up, I think the GLE 53 could very well have for 2026 and maybe someone was ready to post the 2026 models with the changes.
Yes, if you see an E at the end of the model name, it will be a PHEV given their current naming convention. EQ is full electric. Mild hybrid is just listed as electric assist in the motor description. If the 2025 ordering is closed, you may be forced to get a 2026 with the options you desire if you are stuck in analysis paralysis as @W205C43PFL mentioned. Again, no for sure models named yet for 2026 as far as the GLE 53 Coupes go.
I wonder if OP test drove a pre-facelift GLE 350? If so, that might explain OP hearing a starter noise as the pre-facelift GLE 350 did not have the 48V mild hybrid system : )
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Don’t know, but everything is back the way it was this morning. Seems like someone jumped with part of an update a little early.
Ah, I see.
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