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I was exploring some back-country roads in the San Luis Valley in Colorado, miles from anybody, when I came upon a deep hole filled with water, which caused me to lock the brakes to avoid it. In about a minute, my NAV screen showed a warning symbol in that location, which persisted for about 15-20 minutes or so - then it was gone.
Which told me a couple of things. HERE noted my brake lockup, and (I'm assuming) without further incidents from other cars, the warning was deleted.
Which is different from Waze, which allows the warnings / traffic congestion to persist far too long, initiating detours long after the mess has cleared up. Score one for HERE over Waze.
Once I also sat on a hill where I could see traffic for about two miles, watching congestion begin and break up. (Waiting for my Wife shopping.)
I watched Waze and my HERE displays simultaneously, and HERE was almost immediate in displaying the situation, where Waze lagged by 15-30 minutes or more.
Score two for HERE.
It's my understanding that HERE is the de-facto platform for highway departments to monitor the in-pavement sensors, the ones that provide info to those highway signs that show "driving time to XYZ intersection 35 minutes" and similar. Score three.




I've ended up uninstalling Waze a long time ago after it once got me badly stuck in the city when my car's navigation system would have kept me on the highway for apparently very good reasons. Waze had me make left turns against streams of pedestrians, which was a terrible idea. As mentioned, most of the reports/warnings in Waze are also way outdated. Other than disabled vehicles on the side of the road that still haven't been towed, most other warnings such as cops have long expired, but Waze still shows them, and you have to rely on others reporting cops before you come across them. My radar detector is far more reliable in spotting speed traps than hoping others have come across before me and reported it.
I was exploring some back-country roads in the San Luis Valley in Colorado, miles from anybody, when I came upon a deep hole filled with water, which caused me to lock the brakes to avoid it. In about a minute, my NAV screen showed a warning symbol in that location, which persisted for about 15-20 minutes or so - then it was gone.
Which told me a couple of things. HERE noted my brake lockup, and (I'm assuming) without further incidents from other cars, the warning was deleted.
Which is different from Waze, which allows the warnings / traffic congestion to persist far too long, initiating detours long after the mess has cleared up. Score one for HERE over Waze.
Once I also sat on a hill where I could see traffic for about two miles, watching congestion begin and break up. (Waiting for my Wife shopping.)
I watched Waze and my HERE displays simultaneously, and HERE was almost immediate in displaying the situation, where Waze lagged by 15-30 minutes or more.
Score two for HERE.
It's my understanding that HERE is the de-facto platform for highway departments to monitor the in-pavement sensors, the ones that provide info to those highway signs that show "driving time to XYZ intersection 35 minutes" and similar. Score three.
I've ended up uninstalling Waze a long time ago after it once got me badly stuck in the city when my car's navigation system would have kept me on the highway for apparently very good reasons. Waze had me make left turns against streams of pedestrians, which was a terrible idea. As mentioned, most of the reports/warnings in Waze are also way outdated. Other than disabled vehicles on the side of the road that still haven't been towed, most other warnings such as cops have long expired, but Waze still shows them, and you have to rely on others reporting cops before you come across them. My radar detector is far more reliable in spotting speed traps than hoping others have come across before me and reported it.
Is there something that also detect lasers (detect, not jamming) or your state only uses radars?




Is there something that also detect lasers (detect, not jamming) or your state only uses radars?
Most radar detectors also detect LIDAR, but once LIDAR is detected it's pretty much too late, unless it bounced off another vehicle and was detected. Outside of jamming there is no viable defense against LIDAR and jamming is usually illegal. The CHP does use LIDAR here, but mostly in the metropolitan areas, because LIDAR allows them to pick out an individual vehicle. The radar cone is basically too imprecise and can be fought in court. I know where the cops hang out around here. I never ever got a speeding ticket in my home area. Always when I'm driving in an unfamiliar area, but once you get outside of the busy metro area, they still mostly use radar, so having a radar detector has been sufficient and it paid for itself multiple times. I don't even bother putting it up driving around my home area. Pretty much only need it on road trips.
Most radar detectors also detect LIDAR, but once LIDAR is detected it's pretty much too late, unless it bounced off another vehicle and was detected. Outside of jamming there is no viable defense against LIDAR and jamming is usually illegal. The CHP does use LIDAR here, but mostly in the metropolitan areas, because LIDAR allows them to pick out an individual vehicle. The radar cone is basically too imprecise and can be fought in court. I know where the cops hang out around here. I never ever got a speeding ticket in my home area. Always when I'm driving in an unfamiliar area, but once you get outside of the busy metro area, they still mostly use radar, so having a radar detector has been sufficient and it paid for itself multiple times. I don't even bother putting it up driving around my home area. Pretty much only need it on road trips.
Downshifting also helps a lot to bring the vehicle back to the "desired" speed quickly, and it is fun too, but I know you know that already

It's nice to recently read about Apple coming out with CarPlay Ultra, I hope Mercedes signs up. I don't use Apple but it's always nice to have options and competition!
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It's nice to recently read about Apple coming out with CarPlay Ultra, I hope Mercedes signs up. I don't use Apple but it's always nice to have options and competition!
I watched this Sci-Fi movie or show a while back. Don't remember the name, but almost everywhere in the USA they had modern train transportation, except for Greater LA. The highways were depicted with bumper to bumper self-driving car traffic. It was so fitting for the clusterf**k that SoCal is when it comes to transportation. Car dependency is simply insane.
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