engine oil level indication - dry or wet
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engine oil level indication - dry or wet
I want to know how you folks check the engine oil level in your GLK 350. I have checked mine a couple of times and the dipstick bottom will be dry - no indication whatever of any oil being in the oil sump. I went to my MB dealer and the service adviser told me to only check the oil at a 5 minute interval after turning the engine off. AND, to never add oil unless the low oil level engine warning lamp came on, and then only add 1 quart of oil.
Today, I was wiping down the engine compartment and pulled the oil dipstick and the lower indicating portion was completely dry - no oil on the dipstick. Coincidentally, my neighbor came by and he is an owner of a MB with the same engine. I told him to look at this - as I pulled the dipstick to show him the completely dry indicator. There was oil on the dipstick this time. The time since I had first checked the oil level and the second check could not have been more than 5 minutes.
What happened??? I believe the oil tube that holds the oil dipstick is practically air tight and when I pulled the dipstick the first time, the tube vented and oil ran up the dipstick tube and wetted the dipstick. The second time I pulled the dipstick to show my neighbor, the dipstick was indicating the oil level because the oil had run up into the dipstick tube following the first time I pulled the dipstick as the tube had vented, allowing oil to fill the tube.
If this is right, there is something wrong with the tube/sump level. I don't know how the oil dipstick tube or oil pan/sump is constructed which provides the ability to measure the oil level in the sump. What I do know is this is a mystery and is not answered by waiting for 5 minutes after shutting off the engine to measure the oil level. That does not make sense to me. This is my first MB and I do not believe MB has designed an engine with such a requirement to wait for the oil to drain back into the sump to check the oil level. Does anyone out there have any experience with seeing the same phenomena?
Can anyone comment on their experience with oil level indication? My neighbor says he does not have any issue with his car oil level indication and he has the same engine.
Thanks for any comments and insights.
Today, I was wiping down the engine compartment and pulled the oil dipstick and the lower indicating portion was completely dry - no oil on the dipstick. Coincidentally, my neighbor came by and he is an owner of a MB with the same engine. I told him to look at this - as I pulled the dipstick to show him the completely dry indicator. There was oil on the dipstick this time. The time since I had first checked the oil level and the second check could not have been more than 5 minutes.
What happened??? I believe the oil tube that holds the oil dipstick is practically air tight and when I pulled the dipstick the first time, the tube vented and oil ran up the dipstick tube and wetted the dipstick. The second time I pulled the dipstick to show my neighbor, the dipstick was indicating the oil level because the oil had run up into the dipstick tube following the first time I pulled the dipstick as the tube had vented, allowing oil to fill the tube.
If this is right, there is something wrong with the tube/sump level. I don't know how the oil dipstick tube or oil pan/sump is constructed which provides the ability to measure the oil level in the sump. What I do know is this is a mystery and is not answered by waiting for 5 minutes after shutting off the engine to measure the oil level. That does not make sense to me. This is my first MB and I do not believe MB has designed an engine with such a requirement to wait for the oil to drain back into the sump to check the oil level. Does anyone out there have any experience with seeing the same phenomena?
Can anyone comment on their experience with oil level indication? My neighbor says he does not have any issue with his car oil level indication and he has the same engine.
Thanks for any comments and insights.
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On my GLK, (and all cars,) I check the oil on a level surface, engine off for at least a minute, pull the dipstick, wipe clean, re insert and check again.
The dipstick is o ring sealed, but that is to prevent unmetered air entering and bypassing the air flow meter.
The dipstick is o ring sealed, but that is to prevent unmetered air entering and bypassing the air flow meter.
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Thanks for the reply.
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
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Thanks for the reply.
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
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I check my oil level only after the car has sat overnight or for 4 hours.
Thought being that all oil has come down from the engine crevices & will provide me a solid reading from the pan.
Thought being that all oil has come down from the engine crevices & will provide me a solid reading from the pan.
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Thanks for the reply.
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
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2010 GLK 220CDI 4M BlueEFFICIENCY
"When checking the oil level
· the vehicle must be parked on level ground
· with the engine at operating temperature, the vehicle must have been stationary for at least 5 minutes with the engine turned off
· with the engine not at operating temperature, the vehicle must have been stationary for at least 30 minutes with the engine turned off"
From the manual, "Checking engine oil level":
"► Pull out oil dipstick.
► Wipe oil dipstick clean.
► Slowly insert oil dipstick fully into the dipstick guide tube.
► Pull out oil dipstick again after approximately 3 seconds to obtain accurate reading.
The oil level is correct when it is between lower (min) mark and upper (max) mark of oil dipstick."So by pulling the dipstick two times are you following the MB procedure.
What the background for the mystery/phenomenon is - MB engineers only knows(?)
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I'm with shotgun_banjo and GLKKa2H on this. Why worry about the first pull since the instructions tell us to dip then pull to get a reading? Wiping clean does not really indicate if any oil is supposed to be on the dipstick or not, it's just standard procedure.
Could be that while operating, the seal on of the dipstick in the dipstick tube keeps oil out purposefully.
Could be that while operating, the seal on of the dipstick in the dipstick tube keeps oil out purposefully.
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Thanks for the reply.
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
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Accordingly to "Notes on checking engine oil level" procedure in the (2011) GLK Operator's Manual (http://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalA...l/2011_glk.pdf):
Seems like not everybody gets a manual
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Thanks for the reply.
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
My experience is there is nothing on the dipstick to wipe clean. It is dry as a bone. Once the dipstick is pulled and reinserted, the second pull of the dipstick yields a dipstick with oil on it.
That's my question - is this normal to pull a dry dipstick - i.e. no oil on the dipstick to wipe clean???
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I wasn't aware of having to insert the dipstick twice and thought I had run out of oil. My dealer's service department told me I am not the first person to make that mistake and some folks added oil and then discovered they had too much oil in the engine, requiring more work to remedy the problem. In my opinion part of the show-and-tell when a car is picked up is being apprised of this two-dip situation, especially for old car guys who no longer have anything else they can do but check the oil level--I am one of them.
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I thought there is no oil dipstick for GLK hahah. Could you tell me where is the oil dipstick? Pictures would be very helpful. Do we have dipstick for tranny as well and where is it? Thks
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I've found the oil dipstick a long time ago but could not find the tranny dipstick.
Could you please tell me where is the tranny dipstick??
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For your MY 2013 350 GLK do I believe the oil dipstick is repositioned with regard to earlier models, note a benzworld post, courtesy of freedomgli: "It's on the right hand side (standing at front of vehicle facing the engine) near the firewall. For some stupid reason it has a green pull knob instead of the more common yellow pull handle with finger loop."
I'm not aware of any dipstick for tranny.
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Overnight - midway between the low and high marks.
After vehicle is at operating temp and after waiting 30 minutes, oil will show high to slightly overfilled.
Anyone else notice this?
... not sure if my car is overfilled or not.
Also seem to have the same issue on my C63.
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I realize this is an old thread... but I notice that if I check my oil level after it has sat overnight, it actually shows LESS oil.
Overnight - midway between the low and high marks.
After vehicle is at operating temp and after waiting 30 minutes, oil will show high to slightly overfilled.
Anyone else notice this?
... not sure if my car is overfilled or not.
Also seem to have the same issue on my C63.
Overnight - midway between the low and high marks.
After vehicle is at operating temp and after waiting 30 minutes, oil will show high to slightly overfilled.
Anyone else notice this?
... not sure if my car is overfilled or not.
Also seem to have the same issue on my C63.