Check Engine - DPF error
You now have a new DPF essentially. The potential for issues will continue to be the sensors in the system.
Why not necessary? The ash mass limit before a DPF is “clogged” is around 150g, give or take. Yours had 13g, now down to under a gram. More than 90% unclogged basically.
Also the pressure difference went from 9hPa to 5-6hPa, which amounts to hundredths of a PSI, or almost immeasurable.
Again, I commend you for doing it and posting the results, but your DPF would’ve been fine for many tens of thousands of miles. The errors were (and may yet be) the result of unhappy sensors, not a flow or clogging issue.
Let's double-check the code first, but yes; a good place to start may be the DPF pressure sensor. I think it also doubles as the DPF temperature sensor, but not certain.
It may also be that it could correct itself after a few start/run cycles, but I'm only cautiously hopeful. Chances are that a tune is the best (biased?) long-term solution, now that you've got a shiny, clean,basically new DPF. With the engine running optimally, no EGR, and little to no ash created, your Merc would live a long, happy life. The exhaust system sensors are just bound to cause headaches sooner or later, as is the AdBlue heater. When (not if) that goes bad, you'll be stuck with the "10 starts remaining" countdown and limp mode. For me, that was NOT an option.
I’d reach out to KermaTDI, or Malone Tuning as my alternate top choices.
As for removing sensors: not an option without the requisite software. That’s the whole point. New software tells the sensors to chill out and work more off of preset “safe” values. That way there’s much less variability and finickyness.
Last edited by andreigbs; Aug 24, 2020 at 07:32 PM.
I’d reach out to KermaTDI, or Malone Tuning as my alternate top choices.
As for removing sensors: not an option without the requisite software. That’s the whole point. New software tells the sensors to chill out and work more off of preset “safe” values. That way there’s much less variability and finickyness.
Agreed that it's a great little truck and what we really want is for it to be reliable. It's the wifey's ride, so I make sure it's taken care of. In my case, dealing with the failure points in advance of any great headaches has been worth it. The power is nice to have but you don't have to use it all the time. As I said, this is really how it should've come from the factory. It's that smooth and nice to drive.
Keep us posted.
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As far as being specific about the tune I have: I'm no software guy, but from my understanding, nothing as far as the functioning of the exhaust aftertreatment system is disabled, apart from the AdBlue system which I've turned off because of the failed heater. It still does regens as before, whenever called for by the ECU. However, specific expected values and ranges are changed in the ECU to make the entire system more....flexible shall we say, less uptight and overbearing. This is because the changes made to the engine management are so effective and as a result it runs very efficiently.
With my scan tool I can see EGR duty cycle is 0%, so the engine gets only fresh filtered clean outside air. The fuel rail pressure is increased as is the injection pressure. These pressure changes are well within the safety design parameters of each part involved. In addition, the two turbochargers put out increased boost to match the increase in fuel pressure and quantity, but there seems to be no fuel economy penalty for the added power. Instead, I'm seeing about 1-2 MPGs more than before. The new air/fuel mixture and slightly advanced timing burns cleaner, makes more power, results in less soot being produced and none being reingested through EGR. This also means your oil stays cleaner during the 10k mile interval. The rest of the engine internals benefit from the cleaner oil. It looks pristine under the oil filler cap and it's done 122k miles so far.
As long as you're not abusing it, stomping on the Go pedal all the time, you can't really tell anything has changed. But when you do, you need to hang on. The torque off the line is addictive.
I knew of the potential issues with the Bluetecs, and for more than 3 years I had no real problems. But once they start, it's difficult to pinpoint well and to fix definitively because the trouble codes and associated repairs are not well-documented. Not in MB service tech training and not in the independent tech world either. It ends up being a DIY that causes headaches.
That's why tuning it made more sense to me than going down the rabbit hole and still ending up with repeat problems. Since tuning it, I haven't looked back and haven't skipped a beat.
If I grasp your approach correctly, I should throw a couple?? of cans of DPF cleaner into the tank and see what happens. If there is no improvement I'll contact OETuning/Malone (there are several in the Toronto area) and have a tune done. Sound right?
Last edited by srb1194; Sep 3, 2020 at 08:34 PM.
The best idea is to have a scan tool that can force DPF regens. First you have to clear any code(s), then run a regen and see if it comes back. In my case, I had a bad DEF heater that I didn't want to replace. No other problems with the exhaust itself. For such low mileage, it's most likely a crudded up sensor that's feeding bad info into the system and the code is the result. I doubt you have any hardware issues, like physical problems with the DPF or other items. Try to reset the code and run a regen. The site that has the LM DPF protector is idparts.com, just search for DPF protector. I think they're about $10 a can.
Srb, I'm curious what the new ECM software is and what it's intended to fix exactly. Hopefully your emissions issues will be resolved.
Maybe I'll try the stealer and hit them with the ECM software update and their extended warranty on the soot particulate sensor. Seems worth a shot as a first step.
Andreigbs - Unfortunately my scanner doesn't have forced regen so that's not an option.
It'll be interesting to see what the dealership says. Mine was out of warranty so that made my decision easy.
That was before people were too sensitive, too easily triggered or offended, and definitely before COVID...
Still, it would be nice to have a Get Together with other MB diesel fans. I bet there would be plenty to learn and share, maybe even get to the bottom of this complicated emissions system. I doubt we can find enough dedicated people though.
Srb, let us know how the new software runs. Karmikan, it sounds like you and I had the exact same problem with the AdBlue heater. I just used it as an excuse to get it tuned
That was before people were too sensitive, too easily triggered or offended, and definitely before COVID...
Still, it would be nice to have a Get Together with other MB diesel fans. I bet there would be plenty to learn and share, maybe even get to the bottom of this complicated emissions system. I doubt we can find enough dedicated people though.
The dealership option is off the table, I'd get into a game of Russian Roulette. They do a scan, if the problem is the soot particulate sensor I pay nothing, if it's something else I pay for the scan plus any other "fixes". No thanks. From what I can gather from MB Canada, the ECM update might be a replication of the mandated European re-mapping which apparently de-tunes the engine and turns the car into a slug. Sounds really appealing.
Malone were helpful but can only offer a complete delete with hardware removal. Not at all keen but it might be my only option if there is no other viable solution.
Waiting for a call back from OE Tuning. Hopefully, they can offer a tune that keeps the hardware but re-sets the parameters so that the sensors are less twitchy.
Last edited by srb1194; Sep 4, 2020 at 08:25 PM.






