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Old 05-15-2020, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bad habit
I would also check alignment as well as tire pressure. One more thing: if you used on of those tire dressing products, it can make your tires very slick.
Thanks for your suggestion, an appointment was made to check the alignment. The tires are original tires and I did not put any thing to the tires.
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How are the tires worn, evenly across tread? more in the middle? at one or both edges? If they are worn in the middle primarily your tire pressure is too high. 42 sounds like the pressure for full load. My GLS580 tire pressure for normal load is 29 lbs.
Strangely, the rear tires worn out more at edges, which is not consistent with high tire pressures.
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35 Front 36 Rear is what I read is on the gas filler lid for a 2017 model GLS550 - I don't know what options so your's could be different. What does it say on your gas filler lid? You should follow what is on the gas filler lid unless you are hauling a big load like a heavy trailer or 7 adults with luggage, otherwise you will get premature tire wear and a harsher ride. I don't know why Mercedes makes the door jamb tire pressures different than the gas filler lid but the gas filler lid is what you should go by. If you are not fully loaded most of the time use the lower tire pressure.
32 front 32 rear for 3 people and 3 luggages, 41 front 44 rear for 5 people and 5 luggages are shown on the gas filler lid.

Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions.
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I'm thinking maybe go at 36 all the way around - for 1-5 people with 0-3 luggage. Such an interesting formula.

You'll get in the car, drive to pickup your kids, and they have back packs. When you get home, your spouse hops in and you go out to a restaurant. Starts at 1 people with 0 luggage, Ends up with 5 people with 3 luggage.
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I agree strongly with the guys that mentioned tyres. The OEM tyres for these SUVs often are dry weather tyres and yes they do wear down quickly (VERY VERY QUICKLY) due to the soft sticky compound they use, The width of the tyres doesn't help either in wet weather. As mentioned before, it makes hydroplaning a lot easier. For heavy rain I would say you were driving too fast as well. Yes, the electronic systems could have made things worse but I wouldn't say they are faulty. Was probably trying to respond to an abnormal situation either due to leaving the lane or spinning tyres.

Just to give some context from personal experience. I had a double cab truck before that I could drive up to 160km/hr in heavy rain and still be fine and yet with the GLE coupe doing 100km/hr on the same road in similarly heavy rain is quite frightening.

Yes, you may have it checked as a precautionary measure but I would say more importantly change your tyres, lighten your right foot in heavy rain and forget about cruise control in wet weather or other slippery conditions.
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I will go @ 32 as they listed in the future since l usually don’t take many people in my car. The accidents really scarred me for life.

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Don't use cruise in the rain.

Also, sometimes you just need to slow down for conditions no matter the speed limit.
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I agree strongly with the guys that mentioned tyres. The OEM tyres for these SUVs often are dry weather tyres and yes they do wear down quickly (VERY VERY QUICKLY) due to the soft sticky compound they use, The width of the tyres doesn't help either in wet weather. As mentioned before, it makes hydroplaning a lot easier. For heavy rain I would say you were driving too fast as well. Yes, the electronic systems could have made things worse but I wouldn't say they are faulty. Was probably trying to respond to an abnormal situation either due to leaving the lane or spinning tyres.

Just to give some context from personal experience. I had a double cab truck before that I could drive up to 160km/hr in heavy rain and still be fine and yet with the GLE coupe doing 100km/hr on the same road in similarly heavy rain is quite frightening.

Yes, you may have it checked as a precautionary measure but I would say more importantly change your tyres, lighten your right foot in heavy rain and forget about cruise control in wet weather or other slippery conditions.
Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions.

But I can’t believe MB SUVs are unable to handle heavy rain as Honda Pilot or Accord, which I have been drinking for long time and they run very well in heavy rains without any problems @ same speeds.

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I definitely will not use it again in rain or any bad weather. But the car spun off the road again even @ 60 without cruise, meanwhile a lot of many different cars run much faster ahead of me without any problems. Really scared and confused after these accidents.

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I definitely will not use it again in rain or any bad weather. But the car spun off the road again even @ 60 without cruise, meanwhile a lot of many different cars run much faster ahead of me without any problems. Really scared and confused after these accidents.

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Driving our new to us CPO 2017 GLS with 26K. miles light rain around 50 mph, no cruise control, had a similar experience. A strong gust of wind came across the car and the car behaved like it was on a sheet of ice ( temperature was in the 50s). Brought car to M-B service as I was concerned there was an issue with cross wind assist. According to the dealer, no issue found after the tech could not find issue when driven in dry conditions. Yes that’s right they tested it in DRY conditions. Dealer also mentioned tires were fine with 5/32 remaining tread. Note I just bought this CPO car from the same dealer. I proactively bought new tires for the car as the dealers tech staff leaves much to be desired. Knowing they sold me a car with 5/32 remaining tread I asked if they would mount my new tires for free as a sign of goodwill. They offered to discount the labor 20% that I declined. I’ve purchased several cars from the same dealer I will no longer do so. BTW the GLS drives and handles great in the rain with the new tires.
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Driving our new to us CPO 2017 GLS with 26K. miles light rain around 50 mph, no cruise control, had a similar experience. A strong gust of wind came across the car and the car behaved like it was on a sheet of ice ( temperature was in the 50s). Brought car to M-B service as I was concerned there was an issue with cross wind assist. According to the dealer, no issue found after the tech could not find issue when driven in dry conditions. Yes that’s right they tested it in DRY conditions. Dealer also mentioned tires were fine with 5/32 remaining tread. Note I just bought this CPO car from the same dealer. I proactively bought new tires for the car as the dealers tech staff leaves much to be desired. Knowing they sold me a car with 5/32 remaining tread I asked if they would mount my new tires for free as a sign of goodwill. They offered to discount the labor 20% that I declined. I’ve purchased several cars from the same dealer I will no longer do so. BTW the GLS drives and handles great in the rain with the new tires.
Thank you very much for sharing your experience.
Just let you guys know that the car was felt much more stable after the lane departure warning system was deactivated.
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Hi, i know this is an oder thread, but the OEM Continental tires are terrible driving in rain, or snow. They are rated UHP (Ultra high performance). My older GL550 (295/45/21) came with those, and i too had experienced hydroplaning on those tires. Reading this forum it was recommended to get the Continental DWS06 tires, which i did and are awesome all around including driving in light snow. the DWS06, will definitely give you more confidence. They also have neat little DWS etchings on the tire that show wear, D = Dry, W = Wet, and S = Snow.
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Originally Posted by snowflakeGL
Hi, i know this is an oder thread, but the OEM Continental tires are terrible driving in rain, or snow. They are rated UHP (Ultra high performance). My older GL550 (295/45/21) came with those, and i too had experienced hydroplaning on those tires. Reading this forum it was recommended to get the Continental DWS06 tires, which i did and are awesome all around including driving in light snow. the DWS06, will definitely give you more confidence. They also have neat little DWS etchings on the tire that show wear, D = Dry, W = Wet, and S = Snow.
thanks for sharing the information on the tires.
I am very disappointed with the Pilot a/s 3+.
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To me, it sounds like a bad sensor somewhere that is activating a safety system and therefor over-reacting.
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I was driving my 2019 GLS 550 with a mileage of 16500, couple days ago on the highway way, with cruise control around 70 mile/hour, same as the speed limit. Suddenly, the heavy rain started. I felt the car was trying to brake down by itself for seconds, then the car started to spin and slid off the road into the ditch between the high ways. I got back to the high way and drove the car at 60 miles per hour in the rain without cruise control only for couple of miles before the car spun again in the same way as before, and slid off the road. Thanks to God, the car and me were okay except some scratches and tears to the back of the car.

I have driven different cars for more than 20 years for about 200k miles without any accidents. I drove in heavy rain or snow before, but nothing like this happened. What’s wrong with this car? Please help me with your thoughts and suggestions.

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Hi Lodi,

I found your message, my brother had a very big car accident on Aug 30th, the car was destroyed ( thanks god no one died), exactly the same thing happened, his 2018 GLS450, with two new tires from MB service center, totally lost control in a light raining day.

First, I strongly suggest you don't drive your GLS550 and go to MB service center to check it ASAP.
We will contact MB and a law firm to looking for what happen to the car.

Wish you all best!

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Happened to me today, scary situation, very moderate rain, new front tires. Back tires were new as of 2021 December…definitely not something I would ever think would happen on this vehicle.. I need answers… completely disappointed and surprised.
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Glad you survived the wild ride. I have always wondered how Mercedes' Cross Wind Assist affects traction during rain or snow. Wondering if Cross Wind Assist is responsible for this sudden skidding during rain.

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should not this thread be moved to the X166 forum? all these posts refer to the older model GLS
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Are any of these X167's. See the successive post is a little worrying
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So, any resolution on the issue? We need to investigate similar vehicles such as the Range Rover and LX570 to see how they handle in the rain.

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Originally Posted by GLSsSuck
I’m sure some of you idiots will try to tell me it’s just the tires. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
1. It is rather unfair for you, unprompted, to refer to members of this forum as 'idiots' when people are almost universally here to productively share information, and have actually been supportive of your and other's experience.
2. It may be we do not know what we talking about, but maybe we do and may be you do not. But in any case let's just be civil here.
3. I would note that you have posted about a used 5 year old car which is no longer in production (the X166), on a forum that clearly states it is for a different vehicle (the current X167.) It may be more productive to get an assemblage of support from X166 forum to get a response from M-B. That said, your frustration is understandable - it may be you think this forum is away to 'vent' at M-B: it is not, you would need to contact M-B directly.

It is possible the ESP traction control program (and/or the sensors) has some serious issue here. One thought is to maybe, meanwhile, considering switching off the ESP in heavy rain and drive very very carefully - no sharp movements - albeit the ESP is actually mean to be your savior in such situations! Your approach to switch off the lane assist etc was wise.
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Originally Posted by GLSsSuck
Well I finally had enough last month, the car went completely sideways with my entire family in it as I was driving. Something is seriously wrong with some or all of these vehicles, there’s an engineering flaw. I’m sure some of you idiots will try to tell me it’s just the tires. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. My advice is DO NOT buy one of these death traps.
Sounds very serious and I am surprised a Google search reveals no other complaints or recall about GLS/GLE wet weather handling, making me think you are extremely unlucky. Still, I would escalate the matter to Mercedes corporate and see their response (please keep us posted.)

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Sounds very serious and I am surprised a Google search reveals no other complaints or recall about GLS/GLE wet weather handling, making me think you are extremely unlucky. Still, I would escalate the matter to Mercedes corporate and see their response (please keep us posted.)
Yeah, I’m not a big forum guy, but this was serious enough for me to sign up and let people know I had similar issues as the person who started this thread. I tried explaining and working with my local dealer to no avail. I also contacted MB customer care and walked through my issue. They did absolutely nothing. I wasted so much time on it that it became an obsession. I too am very surprised there aren’t a lot of other information sources pointing out this problem. I started to think maybe I had a lemon. It sounds like as it was with mine some of these vehicles have a serious defect and I think they are very unsafe. People should know about it. Anyways, I’m done. I traded that pile in and went a different route.

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LILBENZ230 has it right. Conventional wisdom is no cruise control in the rain. The cruise control can aggressively call for power with no regard for road surface conditions and once traction is lost you are just along for the ride.


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