Carbon ceramic brakes
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Carbon ceramic brakes
Has anyone heard of a delay with the ceramic brakes on the 63 model. I have an order in, but the dealer just told me it’s not till 2021 now. Wondering if anyone else heard anything.
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i Guess I have no choice. Was hoping to get an earlier date, but the ceramic brakes are worth it. Seems every Mercedes i get i end up with in February... in the middle of winter in a snow storm
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For sure
I definitely want the carbon ceramic brakes also and figured might as well wait a few more months for them.
Usually most of my cars come in the summer or end of fall so this will be the first one I'm bringing home in the dead of winter. Doesn't seem like fun considering I opted for the 23" wheels.
What's your build look like?
I definitely want the carbon ceramic brakes also and figured might as well wait a few more months for them.
Usually most of my cars come in the summer or end of fall so this will be the first one I'm bringing home in the dead of winter. Doesn't seem like fun considering I opted for the 23" wheels.
What's your build look like?
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For sure
I definitely want the carbon ceramic brakes also and figured might as well wait a few more months for them.
Usually most of my cars come in the summer or end of fall so this will be the first one I'm bringing home in the dead of winter. Doesn't seem like fun considering I opted for the 23" wheels.
What's your build look like?
I definitely want the carbon ceramic brakes also and figured might as well wait a few more months for them.
Usually most of my cars come in the summer or end of fall so this will be the first one I'm bringing home in the dead of winter. Doesn't seem like fun considering I opted for the 23" wheels.
What's your build look like?
interior after market with the saddle brown color inside. Its one of my favorite interior colors, and I’m pissed they don’t offer more options.
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Carbon ceramic brakes are definitely available, but not sure why Mercedes doesn't show them on their website when building the vehicle.
I've always disliked the way Mercedes car configurator is online. I swear they haven't changed or updated that thing in 20 years.
I've always disliked the way Mercedes car configurator is online. I swear they haven't changed or updated that thing in 20 years.
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Just delete the brakes. They are great for the track but are actually mediocre for the road. Ceramic brakes work best at temperatures that don't happen in day to day driving. In fact performance of ceramic brakes is worse than steel at normal driving situations! The GLS 63 is a hotrod not a track car.
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car configurator is soso. The colors never seem to match what it looks like in real life. I saw the brakes in the dog , just delayed.
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no build date yet for me, but most likely February. The 63 is now configurable online, however the ceramic brakes are not listed. It’s 1 of those options I really wanted. I pretty much have all the options checked , 7 seat configuration. Black ext, night package ect. I am doing a custom
interior after market with the saddle brown color inside. Its one of my favorite interior colors, and I’m pissed they don’t offer more options.
interior after market with the saddle brown color inside. Its one of my favorite interior colors, and I’m pissed they don’t offer more options.
So you're going with black exterior and saddle brown interior? I'd love to see pictures when your finished. Any other mods or customization planned?
Mine's going right to the shop from the dealer for upgrades.
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Just delete the brakes. They are great for the track but are actually mediocre for the road. Ceramic brakes work best at temperatures that don't happen in day to day driving. In fact performance of ceramic brakes is worse than steel at normal driving situations! The GLS 63 is a hotrod not a track car.
Believe it or not, I run my truck pretty hard even in day to day driving. I go through tires and brakes like nobody's business, so I think I can benefit from them. It also helps cut brake dust from collecting on the rims. That alone is worth it for me.
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If you're hard on brakes, you better stop by the parts department and find out what the replacement cost is for pads and rotors. In the Porsche world most people who have ceramics on GT cars replace them with steel for track use because the rotors are 5 times the cost of a steel rotor and pads are 2-3 times more. A brake job can easily run $25K. Most Porsche owners get them because they reduce unsprung weight, which helps handling, but I hardly think that will be noticeable in a 2.5 ton truck. They do produce less dust but you can also get pads for steel brakes that have lower dust. I have the painted black AMG wheels on my 580 and had them coated when I had the vehicle wrapped. The brake dust doesn't show and I can easily clean them with a hose and sponge.
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I'm I'm curious to know why you are changing the interior? Is it just the color that you don't like or the quality of the leather?
So you're going with black exterior and saddle brown interior? I'd love to see pictures when your finished. Any other mods or customization planned?
Mine's going right to the shop from the dealer for upgrades.
So you're going with black exterior and saddle brown interior? I'd love to see pictures when your finished. Any other mods or customization planned?
Mine's going right to the shop from the dealer for upgrades.
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If you're hard on brakes, you better stop by the parts department and find out what the replacement cost is for pads and rotors. In the Porsche world most people who have ceramics on GT cars replace them with steel for track use because the rotors are 5 times the cost of a steel rotor and pads are 2-3 times more. A brake job can easily run $25K. Most Porsche owners get them because they reduce unsprung weight, which helps handling, but I hardly think that will be noticeable in a 2.5 ton truck. They do produce less dust but you can also get pads for steel brakes that have lower dust. I have the painted black AMG wheels on my 580 and had them coated when I had the vehicle wrapped. The brake dust doesn't show and I can easily clean them with a hose and sponge.
I'm currently in a 14 GL63 and brakes and rotors get replaced often. Don't know off the top of my head but I want to say front and rear brake pads with rotors was around 2K with labor.
I know that replacement of the carbon ceramics are expensive, but shouldn't I get at least 100,000 mi before needing to replace?
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i have no problem with the quality of the leather. My thing is , I love the saddle brown look. I had nut brown on my s63, and now black interior on my 18 gls 63 which is just boring. The tartufo isn’t bad, but I’m not the biggest fan. The macchiato is nice looking, but to beige for me. I truly wish for the price point were spending, and to be considered the s class of SUV’s, we had more interior options. Not just 3 colors. I was debating on playing around with Brabus, but it’s pretty high in price. I do want to tune it, currently have renntech, debating on using them again, or Brabus tune. Depending on the exhaust , I might do that as well. The tune really makes a difference. Not sure if I want to do any exterior mods besides tints. Maybe something with the front and rear bumper. Nothing else really on the interior except the seats. How about you?
Ah okay, makes sense now.
I feel the same way that Mercedes should definitely offer more customization and/or options when you're dealing with this price class.
I did a brabus tune and exhaust on my current GL and love every minute of it.
I wasn't a fan of the renntech but have only heard good things about it. The reason I chose brabus was because the ability to update the vehicle without having to worry about flashing the ECU and losing the tune.
As far as modifications go I'll definitely be getting another Brabus exhaust and tune. Full radar and laser system, haven't decided yet but will probably be the stinger system. I don't think I'll be changing much on the interior. Probably get front and rear dash cams, Maybe blacking out some more trim pieces on the exterior. Plan on getting everything ceramic coated, Windows tinted. I've also got a Flir Pathfinder going in and whatever else comes up in between. 😆
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I'm currently in a 14 GL63 and brakes and rotors get replaced often. Don't know off the top of my head but I want to say front and rear brake pads with rotors was around 2K with labor.
I know that replacement of the carbon ceramics are expensive, but shouldn't I get at least 100,000 mi before needing to replace?
I know that replacement of the carbon ceramics are expensive, but shouldn't I get at least 100,000 mi before needing to replace?
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Ah okay, makes sense now.
I feel the same way that Mercedes should definitely offer more customization and/or options when you're dealing with this price class.
I did a brabus tune and exhaust on my current GL and love every minute of it.
I wasn't a fan of the renntech but have only heard good things about it. The reason I chose brabus was because the ability to update the vehicle without having to worry about flashing the ECU and losing the tune.
As far as modifications go I'll definitely be getting another Brabus exhaust and tune. Full radar and laser system, haven't decided yet but will probably be the stinger system. I don't think I'll be changing much on the interior. Probably get front and rear dash cams, Maybe blacking out some more trim pieces on the exterior. Plan on getting everything ceramic coated, Windows tinted. I've also got a Flir Pathfinder going in and whatever else comes up in between. 😆
I feel the same way that Mercedes should definitely offer more customization and/or options when you're dealing with this price class.
I did a brabus tune and exhaust on my current GL and love every minute of it.
I wasn't a fan of the renntech but have only heard good things about it. The reason I chose brabus was because the ability to update the vehicle without having to worry about flashing the ECU and losing the tune.
As far as modifications go I'll definitely be getting another Brabus exhaust and tune. Full radar and laser system, haven't decided yet but will probably be the stinger system. I don't think I'll be changing much on the interior. Probably get front and rear dash cams, Maybe blacking out some more trim pieces on the exterior. Plan on getting everything ceramic coated, Windows tinted. I've also got a Flir Pathfinder going in and whatever else comes up in between. 😆
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my dad had them on his cayenne turbo s. They lasted a while and once warmed up they were great. Biggest regret for me was not getting them on my s63 I had.
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My radar dealer who has installed an Escort CI system in 3 cars for me, recommended I go with AL Priority for my 580. He said more modern technology in terms of the different bands of laser and radar it covers. He said the Escort laser deflector is seriously out of date. I've been happy with it so far. Definitely has made a few saves on laser traps which seem to be what all the State Police are moving to.
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My radar dealer who has installed an Escort CI system in 3 cars for me, recommended I go with AL Priority for my 580. He said more modern technology in terms of the different bands of laser and radar it covers. He said the Escort laser deflector is seriously out of date. I've been happy with it so far. Definitely has made a few saves on laser traps which seem to be what all the State Police are moving to.
Yep, The police are definitely shooting laser more and more. My guy recommended the stinger system because he said it's the only one that will protect against the new dragon laser gun.
I've got the Max 360 CI installed and it's okay but not crazy about the laser jammer.
Supposedly escort laser shifters need minimum of three in the front to diffuse the dragon gun.
I've I've got two in the front and two in the back so I'm SOL
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I'm not familiar with AL system at all. My installer said the AL system is good, but mentioned stinger was the best in his opinion. Biggest downside to the stinger was the cost but he said the way it is built and designed it should probably last a long time because it can be constantly updated.
He also explained that each head had a total of four transmitters, They typically install three transmitters in the front and three in the rear so that gives you a total of 12 heads on each side which should leave you virtually untouchable.
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I'm not familiar with AL system at all. My installer said the AL system is good, but mentioned stinger was the best in his opinion. Biggest downside to the stinger was the cost but he said the way it is built and designed it should probably last a long time because it can be constantly updated.
He also explained that each head had a total of four transmitters, They typically install three transmitters in the front and three in the rear so that gives you a total of 12 heads on each side which should leave you virtually untouchable.
He also explained that each head had a total of four transmitters, They typically install three transmitters in the front and three in the rear so that gives you a total of 12 heads on each side which should leave you virtually untouchable.
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There is no display like the CI has but it does give off different tones for different bands (like the CI) and a voice alert. I actually like it better because I live in a state where detectors are illegal, so the displays on my CI are typically hidden in ashtrays or other covered storage cubbies in the dash, so having voice alerts is actually easier for me.
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There is no display like the CI has but it does give off different tones for different bands (like the CI) and a voice alert. I actually like it better because I live in a state where detectors are illegal, so the displays on my CI are typically hidden in ashtrays or other covered storage cubbies in the dash, so having voice alerts is actually easier for me.
