Active steer assist
#1
Active steer assist
Is there good video/tutorial explaining the feature and what different icons mean. There are bunch of YouTube videos and tutorials but many few year old and some more like marketing quick demons without getting into the details.
Also how do folks feel this work compared to Tesla’s autopilot?
Also how do folks feel this work compared to Tesla’s autopilot?
#2
Pages 222-227 (pdf pgs 224-229) of the MY21 owners manual cover it well. There aren't as many symbols as it might seem at first.
https://www.mbusa.com/content/dam/mb...UV_OManual.pdf
https://www.mbusa.com/content/dam/mb...UV_OManual.pdf
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There is a YouTube channel in the UK that does a great job at showing a lot of these things.
it’s a bit dated at this point and doesn’t show things like automatic lane changing, but this is a good one.
it’s a bit dated at this point and doesn’t show things like automatic lane changing, but this is a good one.
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EWL5 (10-25-2023)
#5
It’s not as good as Tesla’s autopilot.
- It does not stay centered in the lane, it bounces around between the lines
- There are commonly situations where it can’t figure out where it needs to be and user intervention is required
- It requires a hand touching the wheel at least once every 30 seconds or so
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It’s not as good as Tesla’s autopilot.
- It does not stay centered in the lane, it bounces around between the lines
- There are commonly situations where it can’t figure out where it needs to be and user intervention is required
- It requires a hand touching the wheel at least once every 30 seconds or so
Of recent note
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/10/25/...ssist-systems/
That being said, autopilot *should* require a hand touching the wheel as it doesn't have eye tracking. Much like everything else Tesla puts out, it is half baked and a rolling risk.
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wildta (10-27-2023)
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Eh, it's widely regarded as one of the best, behind GM's Super Cruise. Autopilot is not.
Of recent note
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/10/25/...ssist-systems/
That being said, autopilot *should* require a hand touching the wheel as it doesn't have eye tracking. Much like everything else Tesla puts out, it is half baked and a rolling risk.
Of recent note
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/10/25/...ssist-systems/
That being said, autopilot *should* require a hand touching the wheel as it doesn't have eye tracking. Much like everything else Tesla puts out, it is half baked and a rolling risk.
Last edited by wildta; 10-27-2023 at 03:32 PM.
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#8
The Model X I test drove in August 2023 was rock solid in the center of the lane, it inspired a lot of confidence.
My 2024 GLS wanders around in the lane like a game of pong, sometimes tending to drive almost on top of the right side line. Not at all confidence inspiring.
Other aspects of this car are far superior to the Model X, which is why I decided to buy the GLS, but the steering assist was not one of the strengths.
My 2024 GLS wanders around in the lane like a game of pong, sometimes tending to drive almost on top of the right side line. Not at all confidence inspiring.
Other aspects of this car are far superior to the Model X, which is why I decided to buy the GLS, but the steering assist was not one of the strengths.
Last edited by Missourian; 10-27-2023 at 02:22 PM.
#9
The Model X I test drove in August 2023 was rock solid in the center of the lane, it inspired a lot of confidence.
My 2024 GLS wanders around in the lane like a game of pong, sometimes tending to drive almost on top of the right side line. Not at all confidence inspiring.
Other aspects of this car are far superior to the Model X, which is why I decided to buy the GLS, but the steering assist was not one of the strengths.
My 2024 GLS wanders around in the lane like a game of pong, sometimes tending to drive almost on top of the right side line. Not at all confidence inspiring.
Other aspects of this car are far superior to the Model X, which is why I decided to buy the GLS, but the steering assist was not one of the strengths.
#10
Need to read more about their criteria but Tesla 61 vs MB 72 does not align with my experience. Model Y is my daily drive and almost 90% my daily drive it is on autopilot. MB however seem to ping pong and specially struggle on curvy road/part of freeways.
#11
Eh, it's widely regarded as one of the best, behind GM's Super Cruise. Autopilot is not.
Of recent note
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/10/25/...ssist-systems/
That being said, autopilot *should* require a hand touching the wheel as it doesn't have eye tracking. Much like everything else Tesla puts out, it is half baked and a rolling risk.
Of recent note
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/10/25/...ssist-systems/
That being said, autopilot *should* require a hand touching the wheel as it doesn't have eye tracking. Much like everything else Tesla puts out, it is half baked and a rolling risk.
#12
There is a YouTube channel in the UK that does a great job at showing a lot of these things.
it’s a bit dated at this point and doesn’t show things like automatic lane changing, but this is a good one.
https://youtu.be/LEqM2FqUIa8?si=Lm6-KRys3qJgTeWU
it’s a bit dated at this point and doesn’t show things like automatic lane changing, but this is a good one.
https://youtu.be/LEqM2FqUIa8?si=Lm6-KRys3qJgTeWU
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#14
Is it possible to have the feature active without having to activate the radar cruise, I can’t seem to get my 21 GLS63 to steer within the line unless I’ve switched on the cruise function, then the steer assist does its thing. It vibrates the steering wheel if I go to close to the white line or cross it without indication but that’s a different feature isn’t it?
#15
Lane keep assist only works when the cruise control is on. And it’s only an assist. My 2024 GLS will cross the white lines on a straight highway before it pulls back to center, very poor system in my opinion.
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We seem to have competing opinions going on here, but I think we're mixing up the two features.
Active Steering Assist and Active Lane Keeping Assist have entirely different functions.
Active Lane Keeping Assist only kicks in when you are actually leaving your lane, then a steering wheel vibration or rear brake intervention will kick in to force you back (Depending on your settings.) It can be pretty violent. It's more aggressive if you approach the lane line at a sharp angle.
I DO NOT USE Active Lane Keeping Assist.
Not only is it violent; It fights me if I have to veer out of the lane to avoid something. Nope!
Active Steering Assist, on the other hand, centers you on the lane by seeing the striping on the road and perhaps following a car ahead.
Mercedes is currently ahead of Tesla and Google in approval for their self-driving technology, the only one that's approved to operate beyond a certain test area.
But in all cases, all manufacturers, Lane Keeping can be defeated by faded lines, reflective surfaces, or fading light conditions.
It's a Federal requirement that the driver grasped the steering wheel periodically, I think it's every 30 seconds.
Find my Active steering assist to be quite effective.
I trust it, but I do pay more attention at dusk - driving into a sunset can challenge it. I know it challenges my eyesight as well.
Active Steering Assist and Active Lane Keeping Assist have entirely different functions.
Active Lane Keeping Assist only kicks in when you are actually leaving your lane, then a steering wheel vibration or rear brake intervention will kick in to force you back (Depending on your settings.) It can be pretty violent. It's more aggressive if you approach the lane line at a sharp angle.
I DO NOT USE Active Lane Keeping Assist.
Not only is it violent; It fights me if I have to veer out of the lane to avoid something. Nope!
Active Steering Assist, on the other hand, centers you on the lane by seeing the striping on the road and perhaps following a car ahead.
Mercedes is currently ahead of Tesla and Google in approval for their self-driving technology, the only one that's approved to operate beyond a certain test area.
But in all cases, all manufacturers, Lane Keeping can be defeated by faded lines, reflective surfaces, or fading light conditions.
It's a Federal requirement that the driver grasped the steering wheel periodically, I think it's every 30 seconds.
Find my Active steering assist to be quite effective.
I trust it, but I do pay more attention at dusk - driving into a sunset can challenge it. I know it challenges my eyesight as well.
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#18
It's kinda rough when it kicks in, especially if you're over the lane lines just a smidge! When it does kick in, it feels like a force field pushing you to safety so I can definitely see how it could save lives!