pocholin

Around noon a friend and I are coming back from lunch on the north side of Houston, I'm on Rankin Rd, aproaching the tollway, we get to a light and there it was a Nice Red Acura NSX, I've always wanted to race one of these cars, and for the first time now I had a chance, so I looked at the driver kind of trying to tell him (your piece os $#!t doesn't run, well, he fell for it.
We both floor it at the green light, he spins a lot I beat him really bad to about 60 mph, at the next light we do it again, heart pounding 100 ppm, engine going fast, NSX didn't spin!, E55 has better reaction, NSX starts falling behind, E55 shifts into second, NSX keeps falling behind, E55 reaches 100 mph, NSX is about 2 cars behind , we reach our destination so I have to stop playing , NSX doesn't even say good bye , my friend is like holding himself with all his ten nails, he hadn't been to my car, so he is totally amazed I pulled away from that car and happy he is getting off my car, lol.

Brian Yee

Great Kill!!! I always wanted to see how a "55" would do against one of these...

Ferrari

Nice Kill


NSX are not that fast of cars, they look more than what they are

pocholin

Ferrari: I know, but for a car that is based on a Formula 1 chasis, and costs over 80k you would expect more. the latests models (2001-2001) are faster than they used to be in 98, still not that fast.

We thought about getting an NSX in 98, but we backed off when we saw the price back then, and we decided to get a Vette (long gond too)

bobafett

Just wait til you hit the twisties in one - good friend in HS had/has one, the thing is SERIOUSLY nimble....

It's all a matter of purpose, just like people arguing about being faster than a Ferrari in a modded bmw or porsche or audi or whatever. Sure, because 400bhp and 275ft-lb tq isn't all that much - straight line acceleration isn't everything.

Nevertheless, good kill. Should've expected it, though, as you have a 70bhp advantage on them.

--Dan

av2

Great kill! NSXs are fast cars, but only in the 5/6 speeds. Is there a possibility that could have been an NSX with the auto tranny? With the auto, they are only good for mid 14s in the quarter mile. The older version NSX (sticks) runs 13.9 sec in the quarter. The newer ones (1998 and up with the 6 speeds) are at about 12.8 sec in the quarter; some are known as the Zanardi Edition. Don't mess with those.

pocholin

This was a manual transmission, you can tell because his overspinning the first try, and also because of the partial pause on acceleration when shifting, how do you reognize those Zanardi? Badge?

techbike

Nice kill, Alfonso! You could have been nice and pointed to his front bumper or headlights and give him the thumbs up

pocholin

But how? He didn't even look at me

99ML430

Thanks for the laugh.... I can't imagine being the owner of an NSX getting spanked by a two ton four door, thats some humble pie. I had an 01' Vette roadster and put the hurt on an NSX on the straights and the twisties. The only fast NSX's are the ones I have seen at the track with superchargers. Nice kill.

Boo2

Nice run. The thing about an NSX is that it's a Honda - meaning that it is pretty easy to mod. My boy just picked one up and it's already been put to work. Should be ready in about a month. He has a 11 second turbo civic (No NOS) so I can't wait to see what he does to this car. I know I gots a few ricer friends, but at least their not all show and sticker. This guy's getting the right idea tho from civic to NSX!!!

linh

I alway hear story "blah blah Blah" i beat this car and that car 0-60 or 1/4 and think that your car is all this and that. My friend, what happen when you see another NSX on the back road? Good luck and hold on to your dear life. Good performance cars does not base on how fast it can go in a straight line. If you just want to race in a straight line, trying picking on the new NSX. Take the M5 for example, it faster then the old M3 but why didn't BMW used the M5 for their "GT" racing? Get my point.

One thing i noticed about all this story about Mercedes car beating other cars but i have never hear one about Mercedes got beated by other cars. Does this mean that Mercedes car never got beat by other cars? That's a B$%$% Sh%t !! I heard so much about who beat who depending which forum you go into.

Boo2

Yes, you do have a few good, but already mentioned, points about racing & performance. Just to let you know, the topic is called "KILL STORIES" not "GOT KILLED STORIES". If you actually think about it, the off-set of Benzo kills are probably in the forums of those cars that beat us. If you want to hear about Benzos getting beat, try the M forums or Ferrari or Porsche forums. It's common sense, homie!

av2

To Linh,
You must realize that you are in the "Kill stories" forum, do you? I am sure you also like reading most of the stories otherwise you wouldn't be here. There are stories in here that Mercs were killed by other performers, like the story of the famous C230K sedan got killed by a Supra NA (mine). I have been to many discussion boards and this one is by far the most matured kill story forum out there. Just go check out the Supra, Impreza, and Maxima forums, and you will know what I mean.

Yes, everyone knows that Merc are not the greatest cars around corners. You don't have to make of fool of yourself tell us this. I don't recall anyone posting that an E55 beating an NSX on the twisties, have you? So, what point are you trying to make? If you love reading CLK430 or SLK230 got killed by Civics or Torcels, you are in the wrong forum.

BenzE

Bravo on the NSX kill. I've been killed several times by varying makes and models, I just don't write about it...

I don't have hands-on experience with the E55, but with my E430, unless I do a brake stand, it is sometimes hard for me to beat even a Jetta VR6 off the line (but, maybe I'm just a lame off-the-line driver, more into the *****-out, throttle-down at 80mph kind). So, I'm very impressed, and of course I recognize the prowess of the AMG over my clunky ride.

But, I think 4matic helps you do better in the corners. This morning I took a pretty sharp curve on the onramp to the NJ Turnpike spur at about 60 in 3rd of my E430 4matic, and it felt just about as good as it does in my dad's Porsche turbo... When I had my car in the twisties and switchbacks in Colorado, even the power loss I experienced with altitude wasn't enough to keep me from beating guys in the curves. Any thoughts? If there were an E55 4matic I would definitely buy it, but I'd have to decide what tires to ride on, especially on my winter cross-country drive...

pocholin

You have a point, straight line is one type of racing and road racing (autocrosing or just curves) is another, when you are driving on the street, what type of racing can you do? As far as going to the back road with another NSX and getting my a$$ kicked, well I'd love to see that , it will take an excellent driver to beat me, it might take a little mistake from my side, but it will be fun and that is the most important part to me, the fun.

Sorry to dissapoint you by not narrating our "got killed stories", I don't have many to share. In my whole life I've only been beaten 2 (two) times on the street, and none of them two were in the Benz, so I can't post them here, may be I'm too lucky or a good driver.

pocholin

Forgot to mention that my being luck might be directly related to driving a 494 hp Impala SS (I never got my butt kicked on that one), and my old stock vette was the black sheep that turned me down two times, that is why I don't have it anymore.

amb9800

Nice NSX Kill there.

BenzE: In Europe and other places there is a E55 4Matic and even a E55 4Matic wagon. For some reason we don't get it here though.

FLSL55

OK GUYS!!!

You all need to get off you high horses.

AMG cars ROCK but you have to understand that driver error plays a VERY BIG role when you race.

An E55 is no match for my C32 and my C32 is no match for my 2000 NSX-T.

I have run a 12.9 at 110 in my STOCK NSX at Moroso in West Palm Beach Florida.

My best time in my C32 is 13.3 at 106.

I have NEVER seen an E55 get even close to my C32 numbers. Is it possible, I bet.

If anyone wants to play just shoot me an email and I will bring the NSX to Moroso one night and you can put up or shut up.

FYI here are Car and Drivers best numbers for NSX's

1991-1994 Best was 5.2 seconds with a 13.6 1/4

1995-1996 Best was 5.4 with a 13.7 1/4

1997 Coupe Best was 4.5 with a 12.9 1/4

2001 NSX-T best was 4.5 with a 12.9 1/4

pocholin

Those are pretty good numbers for the NSX, I agree with you, it all depends on the driver, his take off skills, and how quick he can shift (if a 5 or 6 speed), etc.
My E55 runs just a libble bit better nubers than your C32, it is a shame I lost the timeslip, otherwise I'd post it here.

av2

JR,
The NSX is a very fast car and I am sure the one you have is the faster version. The E55 is an automatic and his time should be much more consistant than a stick shift NSX. We have discussed the advantages and disadvantages of a stick and auto for thousands of times. In addition, I personally don't think the C32 is faster than an E55 in an acceration comparsion. Their time posted by major magazines are dead even with the E55 edging out by half of an inch.

We all understand you have an NSX, but it is possible for an E55 to out run an NSX it if the driver did not shift perfectly or had too much wheel spin.

By the way, my friend has a 800hp twin turbo Supra, and he would love to have a run with your NSX.

Chappy

Why???

According to MB's 2002 catalog, they quote the following:

C32: 0-60 (4.9 sec)......power to weight ratio is 10.1 lb/hp
SLK32: 0-60 (4.8)......9.0 lb/hp
CLK55: 0-60 (4.9).....10.2 lb/hp
E55: 0-60 (5.4)......10.8 lb/hp
S55: 0-60 (5.7).......11.8 lb/hp
CL55: 0-60 (5.7).....11.5 lb/hp
ML55: 0-60 (6.4).....14.2 lb/hp


Your C32 is 0.6 seconds quicker to 60 than an E55.

If you believe all the "major" magazines, the CLK55 is up to .8 seconds slower than an E55....How? I don't think MB would intentionally mislead customers by printing the posted numbers...

Cars vary. I understand that. But a properly tuned car will live up to the behavior of the above figures, in general.

"Real world" vs. magazines....gives us a baseline for comparisons.

pocholin

You are right with those numbers, but further research demonstrates that the E55 does better numbers on the 1/4 mile, I did this research before buying my E55, it was a tough desicion for me because I really liked the C32 as well. I decided on getting the E55 because it is a bigger car, and 1/4 mile numbers were better than the C32, torque has a bigger better range.

Chappy

What were the C32 numbers you saw?

Don't get me wrong, I like the AMG V8's...especially the E55 and CLK55...just trying to understand the line of reasoning here.

CLK55 v. E55 v. C32 v. SLK32? Too many inconsistencies in the car magazines about the performance specs.

Do we believe car mags or the factory figures (as far as trends are concerned)....the car mags will have us beleive that an E55 is quicker than a CLK55 (stock to stock), when the factory figures/testing do not support this.

I won't even go into 60-0 braking....again, tons of inconsistencies!

What gives??

Boo2

You guys are comparing a V6 to a V8. The c32 is lighter. The e55 has more torque so it should pick up faster. I'm not surprised the 1/4 mile is faster. Also, it is NA so drop in a Kleemann supercharger and you really can't compare. As far a 0-60 times, you guys are splitting hairs. This is all just bragging rights cuz they're all AMG. The real difference is class (which is reflected in price). The C's are at the bottom and the S's are at the top. Easy as that.