BMW M6 vs. 911 Turbo and highly tuned RS4. SL55 AMG race is upcoming
10-20-2005, 02:09 AM
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BMW M6 vs. 911 Turbo and highly tuned RS4. SL55 AMG race is upcoming
911 Turbo race:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60381
500+ HP RS4 race:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60447
Upcoming
SL55 AMG race, both with P400 and P500 button pressed
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10-20-2005, 02:15 AM
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this shoud be very interesting, vs the SL55 that is 
I think the M6 will come out on top with more horses, lighter and better gearing
just saw the video you posted on the M5 board, looks like the M6 walked the 997 Turbo pretty well but I wasn't expecting anything else since the M6 has like 80 plus HP more than the 997 turbo, 4wd are generally not as good with rolling starts
I think the M6 will come out on top with more horses, lighter and better gearingjust saw the video you posted on the M5 board, looks like the M6 walked the 997 Turbo pretty well but I wasn't expecting anything else since the M6 has like 80 plus HP more than the 997 turbo, 4wd are generally not as good with rolling starts
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10-20-2005, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon200
just saw the video you posted on the M5 board, looks like the M6 walked the 997 Turbo pretty well but I wasn't expecting anything else since the M6 has like 80 plus HP more than the 997 turbo, 4wd are generally not as good with rolling starts
IMO the kill was brutal, much more than I expected, and the M6 is much more heavy than the Porsche.
Dont forgett the 996 Turbo will hit 125 after app 14 sec......, so it is definatly not slow......
10-20-2005, 04:39 PM
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Manua lgearbox in the 996 and yes I had a passenger filming from the backseat.
Originally Posted by ntguru
Did the M6 also have 2 people in the car? I'm assuming yes? Was the 996TT manual or tip? I'm thinking maybe tip based on not seeing obvious shift points.
10-20-2005, 04:48 PM
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2003 E55 & 2014 GL550
ML63 4.7 0-60.....careful Gustav....you guys are gonna have to be just as gracious when OUR vids come out of the new 6.3 in the 1000lb lighter cars.
Meantime....agreed...it's a faster car.
Meantime....agreed...it's a faster car.
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10-20-2005, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ntguru
Did the M6 also have 2 people in the car? I'm assuming yes? Was the 996TT manual or tip? I'm thinking maybe tip based on not seeing obvious shift points.
If you cant see the shift point you need to take a closer look.....
Follow closely the front end, it dips during shifting...... easily seen on the race from standstill.
10-20-2005, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
ML63 4.7 0-60.....careful Gustav....you guys are gonna have to be just as gracious when OUR vids come out of the new 6.3 in the 1000lb lighter cars.
Meantime....agreed...it's a faster car.
Meantime....agreed...it's a faster car.
As gracious as who.........
I will treat any car that can outrun a car on this level with respect.
I certanly will not act like a five year old that just lost his favorit toy......
ML63 is 1000lb leighter than what car ? what do you mean..... The ML is certanly no leight weight car......
10-20-2005, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
He's saying the ML is 1000lbs HEAVIER than the other model benzes that will be coming out with the 63 engines shortly.
ah OK sorry, I should have gotten that...... Yes that will be close.....Will the SL63 be any faster than the present SL65?
If not the result could be close..... Fun aint it
10-20-2005, 06:30 PM
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the SL63 is not a competitor of the SL65.
the 63 is a NA V8 vith 510ish hp.
teh 65 is a bi-turbo V12 with 609ish.
the 63 is taking place of the 55.
i think the 65 will still be here.
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the 63 is a NA V8 vith 510ish hp.
teh 65 is a bi-turbo V12 with 609ish.
the 63 is taking place of the 55.
i think the 65 will still be here.
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10-23-2005, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
yes it will
with alittle more power.. like 10 or 15 hp i think
with alittle more power.. like 10 or 15 hp i think
We'll see, but I'm predicting pretty stellar performance for these new 6.3L AMGs based upon the numbers I ran earlier in the "gustav" thread in the E55 forum.
10-24-2005, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Improviz
I agree. I believe that the performance of the SL63 will approach, if not beat, that of the SL65, because the new 7 speed transmission will be used, and it has *far* more torque multiplication available than the fiver in the SL65.
We'll see, but I'm predicting pretty stellar performance for these new 6.3L AMGs based upon the numbers I ran earlier in the "gustav" thread in the E55 forum.
We'll see, but I'm predicting pretty stellar performance for these new 6.3L AMGs based upon the numbers I ran earlier in the "gustav" thread in the E55 forum.
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10-24-2005, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by reggid
i'm not prepared to say the 63 (assuming 510hp) will beat the 65 no matter how you gear the thing except it will give it a fright in a short race. The 65's have an endless power curve which is hard to beat unless you can match the hp. There will also need to be weight reduction to help. The 65 will always run away from the 63 unless the 63 gets near the same hp as the 65 but in a 1/4 mile the 65 should be suprised by the 63 even with 'only' 510hp
10-24-2005, 10:31 AM
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The 65 will always run away from the 63 unless the 63 gets near the same hp as the 65 but in a 1/4 mile the 65 should be suprised by the 63 even with 'only' 510hp
10-24-2005, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Ahhhhh, until the little German elves take that incredible 6.3 motor, which you have to cede is an engineering marvel, and force the induction, which is what we hear is in the works.
10-28-2005, 02:08 AM
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W210, W220, W163, W164, C6
Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Gustav, whenever you're ready I've got the answer to that BMW.
HOLY SH*T, you've got plenty of hot wheels to put a beating on that Bimmer...must be a very stressful decision in the morning
What happen to the C6???
10-28-2005, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Gustav, whenever you're ready I've got the answer to that BMW.
I belive I have comented you stable before Only thing missing is a M6
, or you could get a great collective item.... the BMW M1.. Most of you collection will do damage to the M6, no doubt.....
My guess is you would have been more than welcome to the event that gustav organized.
Thrue enthusiast always welcome other great cars......
I have to ask you a question.
I read a story once at LS1.com about a guy having a Bellair like you selves he took out if the mood was right.
He wrote a story how he took his wife with him for a ride and ended up at a light with another car, I belive it to be either a modded Mustang or a Vette.
Anyway, his writeup of what happend after the light changed to green was priceless. One of the best I have read.
Was that you........?
10-29-2005, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Gustav, whenever you're ready I've got the answer to that BMW.
10-29-2005, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Militant-Grunt
I wouldn't get so coc ky. The M6 is a killer, pure stock it will give your modded SL a run for its money..
10-29-2005, 03:32 AM
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ALPINA B12 5,7 Coupe #22/57
Originally Posted by RennTechV12
The SL ran an 11.61@123 tonight. The M6 ain't got nothin on that.
I am sorry to say this, but I have to agree with you.
Since no 1/4 runs have been done yet on the M6 I have to go by the time to speed results and if we use your 11,6 to 123 mph and compare with the M6 12,8 sec to 125 mph you will win.
Improwiz has earlier stated that the dif between 0-60 and 0-62 is app 0,3 sec, it should not be much wrong if we then say your SL use twice that time to go from 123 to 125 mph....., would it?
That should give you SL an advantage off somewhere between 0,5 and 1 sec. in the 0-125 mph run.
How that would look in the 1/4, I leave up to you 1/4 specialists.
And in the short run 0-60 you will have the edge also by app 0,4 sec. ( M6 0-62 mph in 4.2 sec equalls 0-60 in just under 4.
So yes you will win
BTW: My quoted times for the M6 is made on Pirellie Corsa tires, which looks like it helps the 0-60 mph with app 0,2 sec
Was the 11,6 run done on normal tires ?
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