had fun with an M3 tonight
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had fun with an M3 tonight
on my way home tonight from doing a little christmas shopping. As I was pulling up to a light I saw an M3 sitting there, OH BOY time to have some fun (my first race against one)... Well just before the light would turn green I gave it a little gas and let the car "nudge" forward to get his attention. Well light turns green and I start out "kinda" fast but he didnt go dang 
... OK I keep on traveling down the road with him behind me. Came up to another light and the M3 was behind me, I was first in the lane so I took off (again) pretty fast to see if he was game. Well thid time he was right on my bumper, so I floored it and started walking away..... I slowed down and he came up in the lane next to me. As soon as he was about to the side door (going about 40) I floored it again and walked away from him again, took it up to about 100 and he was about 4-5 lenghts behind.... Next light was my turn and took my exit, the M3 was still back behind so I didnt get to give him the "thumbs up" 
... Yeah my first M3 kill was fun, hope for many more...
... OK I keep on traveling down the road with him behind me. Came up to another light and the M3 was behind me, I was first in the lane so I took off (again) pretty fast to see if he was game. Well thid time he was right on my bumper, so I floored it and started walking away..... I slowed down and he came up in the lane next to me. As soon as he was about to the side door (going about 40) I floored it again and walked away from him again, took it up to about 100 and he was about 4-5 lenghts behind.... Next light was my turn and took my exit, the M3 was still back behind so I didnt get to give him the "thumbs up" ... Yeah my first M3 kill was fun, hope for many more...
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Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
doesnt sound like he raced you at all....
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Nice Kill! He was definetly trying! Those things are just too damn slow to even know if they're racing or not 
My wife slayed one of those in the Bentley!!!!
The M3 is simply not a match for any car that runs in the 12s, let alone mid 12s like yours
My wife slayed one of those in the Bentley!!!!
The M3 is simply not a match for any car that runs in the 12s, let alone mid 12s like yours
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Nice Kill! He was definetly trying! Those things are just too damn slow to even know if they're racing or not
My wife slayed one of those in the Bentley!!!!
The M3 is simply not a match for any car that runs in the 12s, let alone mid 12s like yours
My wife slayed one of those in the Bentley!!!!
The M3 is simply not a match for any car that runs in the 12s, let alone mid 12s like yours
As for a Bentley beating one its a drivers race, they both trap the same speed in the 1/4 mile and both run 13's.
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That doesn't mean much. I recently ran a brand new 6-speed M3 convertible with paper plates and rocked it off the line to 70mph in my BUICK! My car is slower than the M3, but the driver simply did not know what he was doing. He launched off idle, crunched the gears in 1-2, and missed the 2-3 shift, bouncing off the limiter. He was pulling all over me when he was in gear, and dropping way behind on each shift.
From a roll I was tailing him and when I nailed it at about 50, I'm guessing he nailed it in 3rd since he accelerated but was still falling behind.
At the light he kept looking over trying to read the "ROADMASTER" script on the door. He probably never knew what it was. A classic case of more car than driver.
From a roll I was tailing him and when I nailed it at about 50, I'm guessing he nailed it in 3rd since he accelerated but was still falling behind.
At the light he kept looking over trying to read the "ROADMASTER" script on the door. He probably never knew what it was. A classic case of more car than driver.
Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
Ive seen a M3 stock beat a Z06 corvette in the 1/4mile but the Z06 driver couldnt drive. And a M3 with a good driver can easily hit high 12's. 4-5 car lengths is a lot. from what i read on the M3 forums the M3s kill the C32 AMGs and on the benz forums the C32 beat the M3s by bus lengths. Even with your mods i have no doubt you where in front but i doubt you won by that much.
As for a Bentley beating one its a drivers race, they both trap the same speed in the 1/4 mile and both run 13's.
As for a Bentley beating one its a drivers race, they both trap the same speed in the 1/4 mile and both run 13's.
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Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
Ive seen a M3 stock beat a Z06 corvette in the 1/4mile but the Z06 driver couldnt drive. And a M3 with a good driver can easily hit high 12's. 4-5 car lengths is a lot. from what i read on the M3 forums the M3s kill the C32 AMGs and on the benz forums the C32 beat the M3s by bus lengths. Even with your mods i have no doubt you where in front but i doubt you won by that much.
As for a Bentley beating one its a drivers race, they both trap the same speed in the 1/4 mile and both run 13's.
As for a Bentley beating one its a drivers race, they both trap the same speed in the 1/4 mile and both run 13's.
So, to be fair, let's assume 'average' drivers here. Assuming that, you doubt that a modded C32 will pull 4-5 carlengths on a stock M3 from 40-100 MPH????? Got some money that you'd like to lose? His results are completely consistent with what I have experienced with my modded C32 against E46 coupes. Why are you such a doubter? Why is it hard for you to believe that a car with at least a 1/2 second and 4 mph advantage in the 1/4 mile would pull 4-5 car lengths on a car that, with an average driver, runs mid 13s.
Stock-to-stock, the C32 vs. M3 race is a crapshoot. The usual outcome of a modded C32 vs. stock E46 is right in the ballpark of what the threadstarter experienced.
If you still doubt, put some money on the table.
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There are so many M3s out there that you can never tell why they own the car. My guess is that there are a higher percentage of real car enthusiasts among AMG owners than among M owners. I love M3s though, the E46 especially.
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stock M3 running high 12's?
very, very, very, very low percentage of drivers can acheive those times.
Most M3's run 13.2 to 13.6.. just about the same for the c32...
now add 50+ and 70lbs of torque with a simple $3 to 4k investment of pulley and chip.. and you have yourself an M3 killer with no big exhaust or wing, or fancy wheels or huge front facia or huge rocker panels. a nice daily commuter that can run high 12's all day long (see level alt and good weather)
Granted there are alot of mods for the M3 like (AA, ACS, H, Dinan) but get ready to dish out some serious $$ coin just to add 50hp (without using the S/C or kompressor).
point being.. M3's is a fast car and great handling car... but hard to mod to keep up with the ever increasing horsepower race..
side note:
I just read another test of the IS350 from MT. 5.3 and 13.9 1/4... thats close or beats the times of M3, c55,C32, 545, M45, 350z, S2000, GS430, G35. Good thing a new M is about to arrive and hopefully a new AMG class to further the distance from ordinary to extra ordinary.
I'm seriously thinking jumping to the E55 now or going to EVO and spending the money.
very, very, very, very low percentage of drivers can acheive those times.
Most M3's run 13.2 to 13.6.. just about the same for the c32...
now add 50+ and 70lbs of torque with a simple $3 to 4k investment of pulley and chip.. and you have yourself an M3 killer with no big exhaust or wing, or fancy wheels or huge front facia or huge rocker panels. a nice daily commuter that can run high 12's all day long (see level alt and good weather)
Granted there are alot of mods for the M3 like (AA, ACS, H, Dinan) but get ready to dish out some serious $$ coin just to add 50hp (without using the S/C or kompressor).
point being.. M3's is a fast car and great handling car... but hard to mod to keep up with the ever increasing horsepower race..
side note:
I just read another test of the IS350 from MT. 5.3 and 13.9 1/4... thats close or beats the times of M3, c55,C32, 545, M45, 350z, S2000, GS430, G35. Good thing a new M is about to arrive and hopefully a new AMG class to further the distance from ordinary to extra ordinary.
I'm seriously thinking jumping to the E55 now or going to EVO and spending the money.
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Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
Even with your mods i have no doubt you where in front but i doubt you won by that much.
) why cant you believe I beat an M3 with my mods? I have no idea how good of a driver he was, maybe he didnt know how to drive hs car, maybe he did. All I know is I let up @ 100mph and he was a good 4-5 cars back.... oh, there is almost ALWAYS a doubter when ever there is a good race 
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Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
As for a Bentley beating one its a drivers race, they both trap the same speed in the 1/4 mile and both run 13's.
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
I ran 12.8 in the Bentley in 96f weather at the track. I've NEVER seen an M3 run in the 12s. I've got over 600-700 passes under my belt.
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Originally Posted by MJ1133
It's happend, but most people will not get in the 12's.
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
I would think with the HP & Tq, that it should be in the 12's. Are they difficult to drive?
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Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
Ive seen a M3 stock beat a Z06 corvette in the 1/4mile but the Z06 driver couldnt drive. And a M3 with a good driver can easily hit high 12's.
No friggin' way. That car is a mid-13 car, *maybe* low 13 at best. A close look at the infamous "stock" video of Lee Rutter running in the 12's shows that the car was modded: the front seat was clearly missing, meaning that the rears were certainly gone as well, along with the spare, and anything else he could strip out; also, the wheels were non-stock, and therefore the tires were doubtlessly non-stock, and likely drag radials from the length of his burnout....
Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
4-5 car lengths is a lot. from what i read on the M3 forums the M3s kill the C32 AMGs and on the benz forums the C32 beat the M3s by bus lengths. Even with your mods i have no doubt you where in front but i doubt you won by that much.
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
I would think with the HP & Tq, that it should be in the 12's. Are they difficult to drive?
Stock for stock this cars are so close that the driver will decide.
A modded C32 that trap 110 mph should be capable of walking away from a stock M3, so I cant see anything wrong with this story,4-5 lenghts sounds like a bit to much but not impossible.
Originally Posted by King320
My guess is that there are a higher percentage of real car enthusiasts among AMG owners than among M owners. I love M3s though, the E46 especially.
Maybe the US owners are different than the Euro guys.
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I never said that his modded C32 lost or wouldn't beat one i just said 4-5 car lengths seems like a lot. either the M3 driver realized very early on he wouldn't win and gave up or he was in the wrong gear or something it happens to the best of us.
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Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
I never said that his modded C32 lost or wouldn't beat one i just said 4-5 car lengths seems like a lot. either the M3 driver realized very early on he wouldn't win and gave up or he was in the wrong gear or something it happens to the best of us.
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Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
I never said that his modded C32 lost or wouldn't beat one i just said 4-5 car lengths seems like a lot. either the M3 driver realized very early on he wouldn't win and gave up or he was in the wrong gear or something it happens to the best of us.
Gee, then I guess that, coincidentally, the E46 that I left several carlengths behind must've had the exact same brand of tard pilot.
On the one hand, you state that there are a platoon of stock M3 drivers "easily" breaking into the twelves. On the other hand, when one gets stomped, you assume that the M3 driver must be a moron. See any contradiction here???
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Originally Posted by Nij
You guys are crazy, that story sounds legit...People tend to think the m3 is fast..when it isn't. Bottom line.
So that means that in your opinion the C32/C55 aint fast either.
Just curious, what kind of car would you describe as fast ?
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Originally Posted by Improviz
........A close look at the infamous "stock" video of Lee Rutter running in the 12's shows that the car was modded: the front seat was clearly missing, meaning that the rears were certainly gone as well, along with the spare, and anything else he could strip out; also, the wheels were non-stock, and therefore the tires were doubtlessly non-stock, and likely drag radials from the length of his burnout....
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...matthews+stock
he would be able to run in 12's with a completely stock m3.
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