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Originally Posted by MiamiE55
I was refering to a couple of other posters, but if you're also insecure & want to include yourself, be my guest. A guy writes about one race he won against a Porsche & a couple of posters come out & start writing nonsense about MB in an MB website, & you don't think that's being a troll? Fact is fact 
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Originally Posted by adam@kronen
Alright guys, keep calm. We not at war here. Let's just get back to our toys! 
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Originally Posted by Hamann7
We'll be sure to look out for you... there are some serious 996TT's around town that will beat the **** out of any AMG car, including the SLR McLaren or Kleemann K1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10.... My old 996TT pulled 10.74 in the quarter at 134mph... to date I have not seen an AMG car touch that, let alone the 9 second times that Alex D's 996TT in the Bay Area is pulling.
I wouldn't get too arrogant driving an E55, it's an inferior car from a performance perspective to the Porsches. You'll see...
I wouldn't get too arrogant driving an E55, it's an inferior car from a performance perspective to the Porsches. You'll see...
The new 997TT would do even more damage to any AMG car.
turbo "for life".
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
What's the nonsense that was written about MB?
Yes, you're right... no point in getting into which is better, because Porsche clearly makes better cars than Chrysler-AMG.
I wouldn't get too arrogant driving an E55, it's an inferior car from a performance perspective to the Porsches. You'll see...
.......and you have one guy who's username is AMG ETR.
I could care less what people think about my car, but don't come to a messageboard specific to one brand & trash it. You're not going to hear anything bad from me about Porsche, becasue i like all cars, no matter what brand they are. Forget all this BS & let's move on!
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Originally Posted by grussell
No matter what you drive, there is always someone faster. I agree the tuned 55k and V12TT's are fast, but they handle like crap and are way too heavy. There are many, many modified Porsches that will kill AMG cars in a straight line and many modified AMG cars that will do the same to Porsches.... so what! We should appreciate all of them. But, Try taking your AMG cars to a road course and you will feel the extra 1k - 2k lbs as the 10 year old Porsches are lapping you!
This is a common view to most AMG Mercedes including my own E55 Kleemann K1.......
This is a common view to most AMG Mercedes including my own E55 Kleemann K1.......
Every single time I run into the average knuckhead who has a big HP car, all they can do is step on the gas and hold on. As soon as (God Forbid!) a corner is thrown into the mix, or the slightest bit of traffic............its all over, except for their diaper change.
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Originally Posted by IngenereAMG
The last GT2 I saw was at a road course........as I was reeling it in with the SL55.........it spun off into the dirt. I guess he spent too much time checking his rear view mirror in disbelief. So much comes down to the limiting factor that sits behind the wheel.
Every single time I run into the average knuckhead who has a big HP car, all they can do is step on the gas and hold on. As soon as (God Forbid!) a corner is thrown into the mix, or the slightest bit of traffic............its all over, except for their diaper change.
Every single time I run into the average knuckhead who has a big HP car, all they can do is step on the gas and hold on. As soon as (God Forbid!) a corner is thrown into the mix, or the slightest bit of traffic............its all over, except for their diaper change.
The GT2 is a car that requires a great deal of skill in order to master its peak performance, I should know, I just bought one. In the hands of the proper driver, the GT2 is about the finest street legal race car on the road!
The gentleman driving the GT2 at our track day was driving on a track for his first time, he did relatively well for a beginner.
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Originally Posted by IngenereAMG
The last GT2 I saw was at a road course........as I was reeling it in with the SL55.........it spun off into the dirt. I guess he spent too much time checking his rear view mirror in disbelief. So much comes down to the limiting factor that sits behind the wheel.
Every single time I run into the average knuckhead who has a big HP car, all they can do is step on the gas and hold on. As soon as (God Forbid!) a corner is thrown into the mix, or the slightest bit of traffic............its all over, except for their diaper change.
Every single time I run into the average knuckhead who has a big HP car, all they can do is step on the gas and hold on. As soon as (God Forbid!) a corner is thrown into the mix, or the slightest bit of traffic............its all over, except for their diaper change.
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Wow! I guess I was gone to long. Is this a porsche board or what? The E55 is very capable of destroying many porsche's. Most are horrible in the 1/4 unless they are heavily modified, and many of the times they brag about are better than their own Carrera GT.
I was simply stating that every porsche that has tried to run me was of no challenge at alllllllllllllllllllllll. Some modified porsche will run amazing times, but so can a modified SL65. The weight will always have us at a disadvantage, but so far that has not stopped me from punking porsche's at will.
Maybe one day I will get to see a decent run from a porsche, but up until this day I haven't. By the way, It's not against the law for an AMG owner to write about kicking the **** out of a porsche, its really not that hard! I guess the hardcore modd guys are the only ones that will brag. The 65 engine is far superior that most porsche engines. Bring it on!
I was simply stating that every porsche that has tried to run me was of no challenge at alllllllllllllllllllllll. Some modified porsche will run amazing times, but so can a modified SL65. The weight will always have us at a disadvantage, but so far that has not stopped me from punking porsche's at will.
Maybe one day I will get to see a decent run from a porsche, but up until this day I haven't. By the way, It's not against the law for an AMG owner to write about kicking the **** out of a porsche, its really not that hard! I guess the hardcore modd guys are the only ones that will brag. The 65 engine is far superior that most porsche engines. Bring it on!
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Originally Posted by AMG ETR
I Live in West Palm Beach, FL...
Too bad my car is being parted out
Evan
Too bad my car is being parted out
Evan
. Your intestines must be bursting of asswhoppings.
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I agree, a name change is in order for RenntechV12. Thanks for posting the link.
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Originally Posted by Rudyrono
Sick lookin' P-car. I would love to see the front. Perhaps if we raced, then I could see what it looks like in my rear view mirror. OK, slow down. I was just trying to be funny. Really, that's a beautiful car.
LOL
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Originally Posted by DBERRY7578
I agree, a name change is in order for RenntechV12. Thanks for posting the link.
Those are my cars on the RENNTech website. I love my Benzes, they kick some serious @$$!, look at some of my other posts here and you'll see that I have never said one ill word about MB, my SL600 will outrun all but the most modded Porsche turbos, PERIOD!
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[QUOTE=RennTechV12]And what should the name be
Those are my cars on the RENNTech website. I love my Benzes, they kick some serious @$$!, look at some of my other posts here and you'll see that I have never said one ill word about MB, my SL600 will outrun all but the most modded Porsche turbos, PERIOD![/QUOT]
Its amazing that you were so upset with my response to HAMANN7 coming into this forum blasting AMG's, as you stated on the porsche forum. You clearly overlooked the BS he stated and took sides with team porsche. Since he was such an ********, I responded with my experience of running a few porsches who should have modified themselves before barking up the SL65 tree. I didn't go to the porsche site and trash the Carrera GT, by stating that a modified 65 would strip it naked in the 1/4.
If it was all about modifying cars to see who is the fastest in the quarter, I wouldn't hesitate to get a 7 sec mustang or a 9 sec EVO to dust some of the most expensive cars in the world. Clearly the fastest car in your stable is not a porsche, and is capable of killing the carrera gt, enzo, veyron, and a few others in the 1/4. You more than many people know the strengths and limits of the SL and the porsches, which is not really a secret. So I'm not about to go into depression about some guy modifiying a car and killing me. But it would be wise for porsches to heavily modify or simply die if they challenge most upper end AMG's.
Those are my cars on the RENNTech website. I love my Benzes, they kick some serious @$$!, look at some of my other posts here and you'll see that I have never said one ill word about MB, my SL600 will outrun all but the most modded Porsche turbos, PERIOD![/QUOT]
Its amazing that you were so upset with my response to HAMANN7 coming into this forum blasting AMG's, as you stated on the porsche forum. You clearly overlooked the BS he stated and took sides with team porsche. Since he was such an ********, I responded with my experience of running a few porsches who should have modified themselves before barking up the SL65 tree. I didn't go to the porsche site and trash the Carrera GT, by stating that a modified 65 would strip it naked in the 1/4.
If it was all about modifying cars to see who is the fastest in the quarter, I wouldn't hesitate to get a 7 sec mustang or a 9 sec EVO to dust some of the most expensive cars in the world. Clearly the fastest car in your stable is not a porsche, and is capable of killing the carrera gt, enzo, veyron, and a few others in the 1/4. You more than many people know the strengths and limits of the SL and the porsches, which is not really a secret. So I'm not about to go into depression about some guy modifiying a car and killing me. But it would be wise for porsches to heavily modify or simply die if they challenge most upper end AMG's.
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Originally Posted by DBERRY7578
Wow! I guess I was gone to long. Is this a porsche board or what? The E55 is very capable of destroying many porsche's. Most are horrible in the 1/4 unless they are heavily modified, and many of the times they brag about are better than their own Carrera GT.
I was simply stating that every porsche that has tried to run me was of no challenge at alllllllllllllllllllllll. Some modified porsche will run amazing times, but so can a modified SL65. The weight will always have us at a disadvantage, but so far that has not stopped me from punking porsche's at will.
Maybe one day I will get to see a decent run from a porsche, but up until this day I haven't. By the way, It's not against the law for an AMG owner to write about kicking the **** out of a porsche, its really not that hard! I guess the hardcore modd guys are the only ones that will brag. The 65 engine is far superior that most porsche engines. Bring it on!
I was simply stating that every porsche that has tried to run me was of no challenge at alllllllllllllllllllllll. Some modified porsche will run amazing times, but so can a modified SL65. The weight will always have us at a disadvantage, but so far that has not stopped me from punking porsche's at will.
Maybe one day I will get to see a decent run from a porsche, but up until this day I haven't. By the way, It's not against the law for an AMG owner to write about kicking the **** out of a porsche, its really not that hard! I guess the hardcore modd guys are the only ones that will brag. The 65 engine is far superior that most porsche engines. Bring it on!
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[QUOTE=DBERRY7578]
I hadn't read through all of the Benz bashing posts, and I certainly don't agree with the anti MB rhetoric, sorry if you felt like I was bashing too or overreacting. When you get to the level of cars like the SL65 and the GT2, it's all about preference. You obviously could have purchased a high end turbo if you wanted to, but the 65 suited your needs and wants better, I can see how!! Nothing has the acceleration feel like the V12 Biturbo Benzes in stock form, PERIOD!!!
You have a great car, one of the world's finest and you obviously like to drive it, fast, like it should be driven. Too bad you're not in AZ, we'd love to have you as part of our car club!!!!
Originally Posted by RennTechV12
And what should the name be
Those are my cars on the RENNTech website. I love my Benzes, they kick some serious @$$!, look at some of my other posts here and you'll see that I have never said one ill word about MB, my SL600 will outrun all but the most modded Porsche turbos, PERIOD![/QUOT]
Its amazing that you were so upset with my response to HAMANN7 coming into this forum blasting AMG's, as you stated on the porsche forum. You clearly overlooked the BS he stated and took sides with team porsche. Since he was such an ********, I responded with my experience of running a few porsches who should have modified themselves before barking up the SL65 tree. I didn't go to the porsche site and trash the Carrera GT, by stating that a modified 65 would strip it naked in the 1/4.
If it was all about modifying cars to see who is the fastest in the quarter, I wouldn't hesitate to get a 7 sec mustang or a 9 sec EVO to dust some of the most expensive cars in the world. Clearly the fastest car in your stable is not a porsche, and is capable of killing the carrera gt, enzo, veyron, and a few others in the 1/4. You more than many people know the strengths and limits of the SL and the porsches, which is not really a secret. So I'm not about to go into depression about some guy modifiying a car and killing me. But it would be wise for porsches to heavily modify or simply die if they challenge most upper end AMG's.
Those are my cars on the RENNTech website. I love my Benzes, they kick some serious @$$!, look at some of my other posts here and you'll see that I have never said one ill word about MB, my SL600 will outrun all but the most modded Porsche turbos, PERIOD![/QUOT]
Its amazing that you were so upset with my response to HAMANN7 coming into this forum blasting AMG's, as you stated on the porsche forum. You clearly overlooked the BS he stated and took sides with team porsche. Since he was such an ********, I responded with my experience of running a few porsches who should have modified themselves before barking up the SL65 tree. I didn't go to the porsche site and trash the Carrera GT, by stating that a modified 65 would strip it naked in the 1/4.
If it was all about modifying cars to see who is the fastest in the quarter, I wouldn't hesitate to get a 7 sec mustang or a 9 sec EVO to dust some of the most expensive cars in the world. Clearly the fastest car in your stable is not a porsche, and is capable of killing the carrera gt, enzo, veyron, and a few others in the 1/4. You more than many people know the strengths and limits of the SL and the porsches, which is not really a secret. So I'm not about to go into depression about some guy modifiying a car and killing me. But it would be wise for porsches to heavily modify or simply die if they challenge most upper end AMG's.
You have a great car, one of the world's finest and you obviously like to drive it, fast, like it should be driven. Too bad you're not in AZ, we'd love to have you as part of our car club!!!!
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Originally Posted by DBERRY7578
Wow! I guess I was gone to long. Is this a porsche board or what? The E55 is very capable of destroying many porsche's. Most are horrible in the 1/4 unless they are heavily modified, and many of the times they brag about are better than their own Carrera GT.
I was simply stating that every porsche that has tried to run me was of no challenge at alllllllllllllllllllllll. Some modified porsche will run amazing times, but so can a modified SL65. The weight will always have us at a disadvantage, but so far that has not stopped me from punking porsche's at will.
Maybe one day I will get to see a decent run from a porsche, but up until this day I haven't. By the way, It's not against the law for an AMG owner to write about kicking the **** out of a porsche, its really not that hard! I guess the hardcore modd guys are the only ones that will brag. The 65 engine is far superior that most porsche engines. Bring it on!
I was simply stating that every porsche that has tried to run me was of no challenge at alllllllllllllllllllllll. Some modified porsche will run amazing times, but so can a modified SL65. The weight will always have us at a disadvantage, but so far that has not stopped me from punking porsche's at will.
Maybe one day I will get to see a decent run from a porsche, but up until this day I haven't. By the way, It's not against the law for an AMG owner to write about kicking the **** out of a porsche, its really not that hard! I guess the hardcore modd guys are the only ones that will brag. The 65 engine is far superior that most porsche engines. Bring it on!
I love the benz but they are motorized sofas, try quick lane changes and check out the dive under braking. As for traction
you are lucky you race in straight lines.
btw I own a merc and a porsche, have no particular bias
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Originally Posted by ash-c32
I love the benz but they are motorized sofas, try quick lane changes and check out the dive under braking. As for traction
you are lucky you race in straight lines.
you are lucky you race in straight lines.
Clearly the engineers could have stripped the AMG's down to lower the weight drastically, and put the same monstrous engines inside of them to produce a legitimate track car. I believe that AMG has at least five cars (E55,CLS55,CL65,S65,SL65) that if they were stripped down could easily run 10's or better if that was the objective, however MB's primary objective is to create a superior luxurious car that forces lighter track cars to modify just to keep up. That being said, some of us buy what we can afford, and some of us buy what satisfies our daily desire. I am not a track guy. You would have a better shot finding me at a professional athletic event than a race track, therefore a super luxurious sports car that is driven daily fills the need for me, and that is why my next purchase will be the Bentley GT instead of a track car.
After that the Ferrari is in order, than I will join the light weight division for a little dance. Shall We
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Originally Posted by LawrenceAW
You do realize that Porsche is ranked #2 as far as the least amount of problems per car, Lexus is #1. If I'd been given the choice of owning only one car until I die, it would be an S65, but, you certainly have to give credit to Porsche, 480BHP out of a 3.6L 6 (997 Turbo), how is that inferior to an SL65 which makes 604 out of a 6.0L 12? I'm not jumping on the Porsche wagon though, I just give the rightful respect to both makers.
Personally I enjoy all special cars, and I'm not in so deep until I cant see the good in all of them, but I am not one to lay down when someone decides to crown any outside vehicle the chosen one on this forum, although it has been said that the 65 is "Gods own engine". LOL
Car and Drive Magazine August 2005 Streets of Willow 1.6 miles
SL65 Price as tested $189,970.00 Lap Time 1:34:95
Average Speed: 60.7
Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet Price as tested $147,435.00 Lap Time 1:34.97
Average Speed: 60.6
Close Call but the fat *** nipped the light and nimble even on a day it was running very hot and the engine was stalling.
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