S-Clusiv

I'm on my way home on the freeway tonight at about 12ish and already in an upbeat, racey mood. My son (16, in the passenger's seat) notices the AMG coming up on our right and we both grin almost simultaniously. As I am already going slightly faster than him, I test him by edging past him a little to see if he bites. Right after my son says "He wants some." He bites so I downshift into 3rd and I'm at about 4500 so I can show off the beautiful note of my engine (and all of its contents) I also hear him take it down a few with a slight whine and at about the same time we get on it, him having the jump..I didn't quite bury my foot into it but I gave the pedal a spirited nudge towards the floor just above the kickdown, by this time I'm watching the rpm's fly into the 6's, I shift and all I hear is his engine being slightly drowned out by mine (windows cracked, sunroof open) and he's now next to me at about 85+ with me slowly but surely walking away from him...this is where I had this guy...I mashed the kickdown switch into the floor and felt the jolt and the car became briefly confused as to which gear was suitable, then shifted up once more after a few seconds (120+ish?). By this time I see a set of Bi-xenons at an acceptable distance in my rearview and I let off a few seconds later, turn on my puddle lights (sort of like a thumbs up) and leveled the freeway jet off at about 70. I think this guy got a little hurt because he broke the MB enthusiast code, did the infamous "fly-by" and tapped his brakes as if to say "goodbye!" and that was it. If you are on the forum it was a great run and the V8 Kompressor sounds awesome off the leash...but it may be time for a carwash!

(All speeds and RPM's are estimates because I was too into the run to look anywhere but the road and my "opponent".)

Also, does anyone have any suggestions on mods for a little more low end? He definately had an advantage at the beginning although we might not have been very precise with taking off at the same time. Thanks!

Improviz

Your sig states you're getting the Bentley in Dec '06; what are you currently driving?

Jakpro1

I COMMAND to know who did the ricer fly by......BLASPHEMER!!!

You lose...you lose, NO FLY BYS!!!

NVR_L8

Yea, might be a good idea to say what car you were in.

S-Clusiv

My Brabus tuned S...(in my sig.)

AMG_55

s what

Roupin

S500.

What mods do you have?

AMG_55

unless its supercharged, i dont believe it.
i drove a 6.5liter brabus e 210 and it wasnt nearly as fast as the 55k cars.

the newer v8's can only be enlarged to 6.1 liters by brabus, thats only 425hp.

i just dont see how thats possible

S-Clusiv

(Not a 500) its an S3000 blunderbrabus with nitrous and some stickers..

No really though I mean if I were to make up a kill...I'd kill something more glamourous (spelling?) than a filthy (literally) S55..maybe like one of Clay's Veyrons.

As for the mods I will show off at the next So-Cal meet as they are G-4 Classified and my GM wouldn't allow me to discuss them via the forum. But I know they are in fact worth the wait. I will have solid dyno numbers soon though, promise.

Improviz

....you'd need a pretty thorough motor rework (heads, cams, headers, and the like) to pull an S55k, unless you've got spray or some other form of forced induction.

Not going to pick up the 140 or so ponies you'd need to pull one otherwise...

Thericker

Hey Improviz......I agree this is a pretty wierd kill the guy posting wont disclose mods or hp but admits he was driving an inferior model verses an AMG, but opened a can of whopass on a 500hp Komp55 Sclass...Whatever

Sounds like your son was playing a video game.....

SL BRABUS

maybe you drive a fake 6.5L....... what are you talking about it not nearly as fast as the 55K...... it will be a close race 6.5L vs 55K....... but it won't beat 55K...... Let just say whoever got the jump will win.......

Improviz

....Brabus has a long history of rather overinflated horsepower claims.

Here's one example. It is a 1998 CLK 5.8, which was supposedly producing 400 horsepower.
http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/...58st1998-1.htm
Supertest in sport auto 12/1998
Gewicht 1592 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,4 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,7 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,9 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,5 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,9 s
0 - 200 km/h 20,3 s

From the same year, here's a test of a CLK55, which is rated at 50 hp *less*:
http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/clk55amg1998-1.htm
Test in ams 25/1998
Gewicht 1591 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,9 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,3 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,3 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,4 s
0 - 160 km/h 11,9 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 19,3 s

Similarly, here's a test of the Brabus-E V12 7.3 W210 from 1996, which was supposedly putting out 582 horsepower:
http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/braev12731996-1.htm
Test in sport auto 10/1996
Gewicht 1850 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,6 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,9 s
0 - 120 km/h 6,4 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 8,3 s
0 - 160 km/h 10,4 s
0 - 180 km/h 13,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 16,0 s

Now here's a test of an E55 from January 2003, with 476 rated horsepower, 106 less than the V12 above was supposedly putting out:
http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/e55amg2003-1.htm
Test in sport auto 01/2003
Gewicht 1944 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s

See a pattern here?

Oh, and as for how this compares to the Brabus E650 6.5L, which was rated at 450 horsepower: well, they just so happen to have a test of one of those as well:
http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/...e6501997-1.htm
Test in sport auto 8/1997
Gewicht 1762 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,8 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,2 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,0 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 9,0 s
0 - 160 km/h 11,4 s
0 - 180 km/h 14,5 s
0 - 200 km/h 18,1 s

Quick, but not in the same league as a 55k car.

MJ1133

As your GM I do not think it is a good idea to show it off at the next meet. I shall talk to legal counsel and see what they suggest we do in this situation.

DFW01E55

You took this challenge with your 16 y.o. son in the car?

We all lose this one!
What's he gonna' do when Dad is at home?

And don't say, "Not my son."

Take him to the track.

regor60

I think this is his son posting

amgdriven

Brabus tuned S?

Not only can you NOT beat a S55k AMG.... you couldn't beat a N/A S55 AMG.

HLG600

The 55K is a bit of a stretch, but a Brabus 5.8 or 6.1 would not have a problem walking a N/A 55.

5.4 Litre - 355 bhp
5.8 Litre - 400 bhp
6.1 Litre - 426 bhp
6.1 Litre (S) - 445 bhp

amgdriven

There is no question a engine modded Brabus S500 can beat a N/A S55 in which only goes 0-60 in 5.7 and the 1/4 mile in 14.1 (Motor Trend).

The question lies in IF he has a engine modded Brabus S500, and if he does, how he thinks he raced a S55K and beat it.Even if he had the 6.1 Brabus.....he will not beat a compressed S55. PERIOD

2MANYCARS

Maybe that S55K he raced was only a poser? There are a lot of them in Queens you know, I am not saying it happened in Queens, but that could be it. Posers are all around the country, wherever I go, San Francisco, L.A., Chicago, or Boston, I always spot quite a handful of them.

HLG600

I said that out-running a 55K car was bit of a stretch for a Brabus tuned 500. I only posted that since you stated that it couldn't even beat a N/A 55. If it was a 500 motor with a B11 kit, then the N/A would probably win. However, the Brabus motor conversions would out run the N/A 55. I am not calling bull**** since anything can happen on the street, where there are other variables to consider. For all we know, he could have raced a N/A S55 with updated lights and exhaust (hence the sound he described). Regardless, a game of highway tag is still for fun.

Cheers

MercedesFTW

Some of you really go all out to try an prove him wrong, *cough*Improvis*cough* ()...but all he has to do is say, well that's how it happened, and what can you do about it? Pull more numbers out of magazines, or just start calling bull again? Still hasn't proved him wrong yet.

See my point? Just take it as what it is. It doesn't seem like he is trying to boast or anything. Could have been a fake S55, a N/A 55 with some mods, or could just be some guy that wasn't ready or willing to go all out. Or it could have happened.

FrankW

I've seen the car...it's the white S with the movens...black on one side and silver on the other right? Brabus front bumper, tips. I thought this was a S430.

Improviz

I would argue that there's plenty of question, thanks to the instances I posted above. If a 342 horsepower CLK55 AMG gets tested faster than a "400 hp" Brabus CLK 5.8, and if a E55k rated at 469 hp totally annhilates a Brabus 7.2 V12 E class rated at 582, and if a 6.0L E Class Brabus supposedly running 450 hp can barely edge out a CLK55, then there is obviously a major discrepancy in these horsepower ratings.

I have been unable to find an actual road test of a Brabus S500. But before I'd concede any victory for the Brabus after seeing the results I found and posted above, I would *have* to see such a test.

amgdriven

I need a Improviz Pocket Book of Mercedes information to use when my buddies start their crap about AMG.

Man, let me know when you ever come to DFW.