Improviz

Bling bling bling bling, we have a winner ladies and gentlemen!!

HLG600

Just quoting from the data source I have, and what they documented. From the article, it says the speedometer read 210 mph, although the author refered to that as an "honest-205." The Brabus representitive said the limitation to 205 mph was due to the tires and their maximum speeds. The performance characteristics of the two are opposite though, where the E55 conforms to drag stye driving. However, the Brabus EV12 is engineered for top end performance. Comparing data with my source and your source for the E55, there would be a 3.6 second gap in time by 200 km/h, which is significant in real world driving. That's the one problem with data from different sources, it can be inconsistent at times. Shame we can't set up real life tests. 0-VMAX and 60, 80, 100 mph rolls would be some fun tests.

HLG

HLG600

Here's a cool video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FKx4XtKtkF8

Improviz

Hmm, well, there definitely is a discrepancy there...I would like to see a run between the two. My money would be on the E55, but my earlier comments notwithstanding, that E V12 does look like a sweet piece (cool video, btw). I imagine it's a total ***** to work on that motor, though!

HLG600

Although I have never heard of a Brabus motor breaking, repairs could easily match if not exceed the value of a new car. To think a "reliable" 330 km/h sedan was made 10 yrs ago is impressive. But of course, they get their hands on forced induction, once again to the top with the CLS Rocket, and AMG with the M275 V12. I love these German lunatics!

HLG

Improviz

Amen to that!!

AMG_55

+1.........2 and 3

SL BRABUS

here the timeslip HLG600......
https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stories/172416-drag-track-sl-brabus-vs-e63-after-i-got-kick-out.html

SL BRABUS

lol....... Improviz no show...... he could have it all.... .. race me and after that I will hook him up with an asian supermodel... ....

I wonder.......
a. afraid of racing me... ....??
b. afraid of getting hook up with an asia supermodel... ..??
c. a & b... ....??

Improviz

First, to answer your questions:

a. no.

b. no no no no no, negative, absolutely, positively not.

c. no, no no no no no, negative, absolutely, positively not.

But I've got a better idea:

I'm not really up for driving halfway across the country for a race, and as much as I'd love to hook up w/an Asian supermodel, I doubt you could set this up.

But here's your chance at redemption: *you* drive halfway across the country, and bring the Asian supermodel *with* you!!

Then, we'll race for a date w/the model, lol.

HLG600

I posted on that thread too. That's a great time!

Improviz

I discovered that Motor Trend has tested two Brabus cars lately, including the one that SL Brabus said would be a "drivers race" with the W211 supercharged E55, the Brabus W210 E 5.8L. But first, here's a more recent comparison test, a stock CLS55 versus a Brabus K8 CLS55 rated at 550 horsepower:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...s55/specs.html

2005 CLS55
Power 469 Hp 550 Hp
0-60 Mph 4.4 Sec 4.3 Sec
Quarter Mile 12.7 Sec @ 114 Mph 12.8 Sec @ 111 Mph
Braking, 60-0 Mph 117 Ft 111 Ft
600-Ft Slalom 66.6 Mph 65.6 Mph
Figure Eight 25.5 Sec 25.3 Sec

2005 Brabus K8
Power 550 Hp
0-60 Mph 4.3 Sec
Quarter Mile 12.8 Sec @ 111 Mph
Braking, 60-0 Mph 111 Ft
600-Ft Slalom 65.6 Mph
Figure Eight 25.3 Sec

OK, so the Brabus is producing 81 more horsepower than the CLS55, but still managed to run 0.1 slower and trap 3 mph slower in the 1/4?? Say what??


OK, moving on: Motor Trend tested both the W210 Brabus E 6.5L, rated at 450 hp, and the W210 AMG E55, rated at 350 hp. Note that this motor is rated at 50 more horsepower than the one SL Brabus has in his SL, *and* is in a 210 E Class, which is substantially lighter than his SL class.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...fications.html

Engine: 6.5L V8
Claimed horsepower & torque: 450 @ 5700 rpm, 488.6 pound-feet @ 3800 rpm.
Weight (used Euro version; American not provided in article)

Acceleration, sec
0-30 mph 1.9
0-40 mph 2.8
0-50 mph 3.9
0-60 mph 5.1
0-70 mph 6.5
0-80 mph 8.1
0-90 mph 10.0
0-100 mph 12.1
Quarter mile, sec/mph 13.5/106.0
Lateral acceleration, g 0.85
Slalom, 600-ft, mph 64.4

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...rcedes_e55_amg
Unfortunately, their online test doesn't have the 0-xxx breakdown, but it has 0-60 and 1/4 mile:
Rated horsepower & torque: 349 @ 5700 rpm, 390 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm.
0-60: 4.99
1/4 mile: 13.46 at 106.71

OK, so the Brabus is producing 100 more horsepower than the E55, and yet it's slower to 60 *and* the 1/4 mile, *and* has a lower trap than the E55??

With a true 450 horsepower and a 180 pound driver, a 3800 W210 would be trapping at 113 mph. This would mean a 0-100 time in the 10-10.5 second range, not 12.1, which is about the same as the E55. Conclusion: this motor is putting out 350 horsepower, not 450.

And, btw, this is the car that SL Brabus assured us would be a "driver's race" with a W211 E55, which runs 0-100 in under 10 seconds and the 1/4 in the low 12's.

So, in all of the cases we've seen where a Brabus with substantially higher rated horsepower is compared to a same-model AMG with substantially lower rated horsepower, the Brabus model has been slower.

SL BRABUS

you want to know why the K8 Brabus is slower than the CLS55....... left out page 1 it say
"The wheel/tire combo looks stunning, though 20-plus-inch-diameter wheels often hurt performance. Such was the case in our K8 testing. Although ride quality proved surprisingly smooth with the tiny 30- and 25-series sidewalls, on the track the big rolling stock didn't improve straight-line or cornering performance. To be fair, the K8's bulging 550 horsepower did nothing to help the search for traction. During acceleration and handling tests, even slightly too much throttle spun the rear PS2s as if they were slathered in Crisco."
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...s55/index.html

Improviz

20 inch wheels aren't going to shave off 100 horsepower. The thing is clearly not producing 550 horsepower, and you're wet dreaming if you believe otherwise.

AMG >>> Brabus. Period.

Btw, if anyone takes this clown seriously, read this: I OWNED him posting a forged timeslip:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=118

SL BRABUS

I'm I talking to you.......NO......!! you have to start call name...... Stop acting like a 12 years kid........maybe your are a 12 years old kid.......

Improviz

Hey, man...I'm not the one who just got busted posting a faked timeslip. You got absolutely, totally OWNED. LACR, my ****!!
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=118

SL BRABUS

lol........ I bet you put in 24 hour to make that fake timeslip......... just to proof me wrong......... look who pathetic now......... I ask you to come down and run me........and what?? You did not show up...... so what do you know...?? all you just do is and no action.......I was there and got 1 run then went home cause I got kick out......... after that they close the track due to the strong wind........ that what my friend told me after 7 he was going to met me at the track...... You think I care.......?? NOT!! you think people in the MB World read this and care.......NOT......... !! So I could care less........... hahaha look who patetic now...... I got you to care what I have to say........hahaha....... Get a life and stop following me where ever I post......... This is a last post I am going to respond to you Improviz........ You could post want ever you want.......be my guess......: that what a 12 years boy do...... I understand......

Improviz

...you were there on Wednesday, when their own website says they were closed:
http://www.lacr.net/week.html


You were there when their own phone answering message said they were closed.

You were there, when I guy I spoke with at the track told me that they were closed all night, and ran no races, period.

You were there, and ran at 5:19 PM, which on their timeslips would show up as 17:19 (as proven by actual timeslips from LACR below), but on your timeslip, it showed up as 5:19.

And for the record, here are three actual LACR timeslips, your forged timeslip, and one I whipped up in about 15 minutes on my PC using Microsoft word with Times New Roman, font, the default on Microsoft Word:

Three actual LACR timeslips, from a few weeks ago:



SL Brabus' timeslip:



Timeslip I produced on my PC w/Word (see the cursor??):



A second timeslip I produced on my PC w/Word:



Oh, yeah...your timeslip is *obviously* genuine.

amgdriven

Umm, SL Brabus....I think you got

This is not Improviz's first rodeo. He can smell a drop of blood in water miles out. He will not stop with your death......after he eats you is when and only when he will stop.

Your best bet is to buy a AMG.

If and when you see Improviz,you will need to walk slowly around him, not to make any sudden moves...untill he realizes you are one of us. After that, you will need to feed him raw meat so he doesn't get too hungry.

ultraseven

y'all forgot Improviz is the licensed MBWorld Attorney right?

Improviz

Btw, in case anyone needs any more confirmation that this slip is a forgery, I did write up LACR via the email address on their site. Here is my email, followed by their response:

Please help: was LACR open at all on Nov 29th?
To: (snip)
Hi -

A guy on an automotive forum that I frequently read posted a time slip from LACR, which is dated this past Wednesday, November 29th. Here is the post he made containing the slip:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....13&postcount=1

The slip raised my suspicions, because he claimed his car, which weighs about 4100 pounds and has 400 horsepower, ran a 12.9 @ 108.4, which is way too quick @ LACR for a car w/this weight and horsepower. He's also made many other dubious claims about his car in the past, and so this time I decided to check his story a bit.

I went to LACR's website to check for any results from that night, and the site says on its weekly schedule page that the track was closed that night due to high winds, as did the answering machine.

What he's saying now is that he went at 5PM, ran this time, and then left after being kicked out for not having a helmet. He's also claiming that the track wasn't shut down until 7 PM that night.

So my question is: was the track open at all that day, and was anyone allowed to run? I'm thinking that this may be a photochopped timeslip, but on the outside chance it's for real, I wanted to check with you guys first!!

Thanks for any info you can offer!!
Improviz

Here is their response:
We were "Closed Last Wednesday" due to high winds, we never opened at 5pm or any other time on "Last Wednesday".

LACR

SL Brabus, you should be ashamed of yourself. You've made a lot of friends on this forum, and you lied to their respective faces with this cheap fabrication.

You should apologize. This was a childish, stupid stunt, not to mention an outright fraud.

Thericker

I have to say w/this latest info from Improv who is the fact master, albeit annoying as hell if your arguing w/him but deffinitely not a LIAR, I believe Improviz fully on this matter...

It's a total shocker slbrabus would go to such extremes, I guess you don't really no anybody on here sux....

Nice detective work Impro!

Improviz

LMAO!

Hey, remember when you & I went at it & I told you it all about the facts (to paraphrase SL Brabus), and that I'd argued in favor of 'vettes before? Well, I did it again:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/172831-video-should-settle-down-z06-folks.html

It all about the numbers; it NOT all about Brabus!!

Thanks. It was a pretty boneheaded stunt, and I can't believe he thought he could pull it off...if it hadn't been me, it would've been someone else.

Scoop55

LMAO!!! I pissed my frickin pants when I read this post! Another ownage by improviz.....well done.

"Your best bet is to buy a AMG. "

Thericker

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