GMBALL

Ok. Just give me a few minutes. Okay, it was raining so pictures are not the best, but you get the thing.



It seems like imageshak is dead, I will upload better pics later.

my E430 rocket

push the esp button will not completly turn off the system. you may have to pull fuses or is that for only the ABS.

kchristos

What kind of Mercedes were you driving? Are you sure none of the tires blew or something? The reason I am asking is that on most Mercedes ESP doesn't completely shut down when you switch it off from the dash, it still works in a lighter mode. It should have interviened.

ESP doesn't do miracles though, it just uses whatever traction you have to stabilize the car. If there is no traction (wet weather/ bad tires etc) it won't safe you. In addition to that, in most cases it doesn't make sense to turn it off because only highly skilled drivers can get faster without it.

egxpimp

Hmm you should expect more, if your driving fast you should ALWAYS expect the WORSE. And be alert at 200% and i would trust myself 100 times over what ESP could do, your lucky ESP was off, it could have been worse.

Tommy_s4

Look no one here is as good of a "driver" as you are. come back with a vid with tires smokin, tail all the way out, doing over 90 with the esp off. Then i will take back my statement

AndrewAZ

If you know anything about driving and correcting an out of control vehicle you would appreciate ESP more. If it did not help much like you are suggestion mercedes would not waste time with it, but since it was placed in mercedes single vehicle accidents have decreased by over 50%. From my personal experience I can not speak for mercedes ESP but I can speak for BMW DSC which saved my *** when I ran over a wet patch in the road from a lawn runoff, half the tires hit the water patch and I have never had a car hydroplane so fast and freak out.. Without DSC I would of been toast. DSC also does a dam good job at controlling under steer and over steer, I never really experienced any on Mercedes sine the benzes I drove were 4wd.

egxpimp

oh will deff do u want it in the p car or the benz ? freeway or 2 lane road ? mtn road or just regular rd ?

IngenereAMG

When I want to have some fun........ALL of the nannies are OFF. However, with Mercs it is never really OFF....it is just a bit more liberal before it cuts in and spoils the fun. But you have to remember that no matter how good ESP/DSC/ABC is, if your maneuver is out of control, you can't defy the laws of physics.

I actually think always relying on the safety nets makes you a less reactive, poorer, and ultimately a less safe driver. Driver education and increased car control skills should be taught, not reliance on computers.

Tommy_s4

look dude, i'm cool with you but, comon i'm younger then you and i dont want to see one of your friends posting a fourm saing u slid off the mountain in ur dads p-car. so do it on a track or somewhere you think is safe.

GMBALL

Finally imageshack worked, so here are some better pics:

egxpimp

not that bad bro you okay so nothing to worry about, that can be fixed....


Tommy, i have never driven a C class , does the ESP work like the 350Z that cuts off the fuel/kills the engine ?

i wish i had video footage to show you what happens AT THE TRACkcorneringat 110-115mph and ESP (for the 350z) takes over, it caused me to spin out ... yup...some how it was on, i always turn it off...i tried to throttle it throught, power cut off upset the balance and wham spun 3 times at about 110mph, man was that fun --sorry bro but i dont fear death thats the diffs between a good driver and a great driver IMO or as my friend would say 'your sucidal' whatever it is, it makes me, me and gives me the abilities i have.

Tommy_s4

hey i'm suscidal sometimes to but it doesn't give us superhero abilities. I'm insane sometimes to, perople regard me as a great driver , i dont want you to fear death, i fear the death of ur dads p-car lol, i mean insurence wont cove you driving like an insane lunatic now would they.

egxpimp

It's not daddys p car- its mine thank you very much aka it was my gift for 21st bday

mv420xx

well said...

iceking69

A computer or mechanical device can never take the place of human input

meegle

Racing on public roads is indeed crazy these days yet there seems to be an awful lot of people who stil enjoy it while even video taping the event.
Can you imagine what would happen had one of the racers wrecked and the cops retrieved the clip?

I use to street race heavily back in the late 80's early 90's with a car that would eventually trap in the 150+MPH range before I came to my senses.
Street racing for money was all I cared for and it was truly an addicting/dangerous phase in my life.
One night while spectating a race(hundreds of people would line the street for the entire length of the race), I witnessed another spectator get hit and dragged down the road not by one of the racers but just a plain old motorist who was curious of the mob scene and took her eyes off the road.
It was then that I started sponsoring street race events at my local track (75-80 dragway in MD) and offered a safe event for the 8, 9 and 10-second street cars floating around.

These days you have street cars running high 6-second/200+MPH on 10 inch slicks while the faster DR cars are hitting 180+ in their 7 second ride.
I doubt these guys would even think twice about dragging their cars on a public street these days.

In Florida where I now reside, anyone caught in a drag race goes straight to jail while they impound and seize your ride.
I don't know about the rest of you but my drag encounters will be strictly at the track.

AMG_55

thats what makes it exciting, on the track you go in the same "circle" over and over, in the cyns you have animals, houses, water, rocks, cars, people, bikers, cops........
****, im excited just writing about it

AMG_55

+1

especially the last part

Kev04C320

The driver's ed in US is nothing more than a joke.......

Japan has way better driver's training than the US.