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Old 12-03-2006, 04:06 PM
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Sl65 vs ZO6 in Arizona

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...76352028&hl=en


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The R230 just took off, 11.55 is not bad at all for a stock car.

But why did the Z06 only manage to run a 16.60?
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Looks like the Z06 got out of it early in the run, probably missed a gear and knowing he'd blown the run just said fack it and cruised it out...beentheredonethat (on previous cars of course, no worries of that with an automatic *L*)
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Looks like the Z06 couldn't get any traction from the start, and just gave up.....
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Originally Posted by FishtailnZ
Looks like the Z06 got out of it early in the run, probably missed a gear and knowing he'd blown the run just said fack it and cruised it out...beentheredonethat (on previous cars of course, no worries of that with an automatic *L*)
i guess so
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IMO, this vid shouldn't even be posted in the kills section, as it is, essentially, a vid of an SL65 doing a solo 1/4 mile run. How can you call it a kill if the other guy was not racing (except maybe for the first second or two)?
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IMO, this vid shouldn't even be posted in the kills section, as it is, essentially, a vid of an SL65 doing a solo 1/4 mile run. How can you call it a kill if the other guy was not racing (except maybe for the first second or two)?
It was a suicide; the Z06 owner killed himself!!
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Stock Z06's have run very low 11's in the MD area stock and with just DR's have been in the 10's. The C6 Z06 has to be one of the fastest cars I have seen in a long time in a stock variant. How many cars can run close to 11 sec 1/4 mile off the show room floor?
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Stock Z06's have run very low 11's in the MD area stock and with just DR's have been in the 10's. The C6 Z06 has to be one of the fastest cars I have seen in a long time in a stock variant. How many cars can run close to 11 sec 1/4 mile off the show room floor?
Was there anything written so far in the thread which claims otherwise?
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Agree, they are no doubt fast cars but I have seen way more 12.5 sec plus times than 11's or better at the track. They seem to be a hard car to launch and not very consistent. Everyone thinks they will blow away anything but seems there is always some "issue" when they actually race.
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Originally Posted by Juice it
Agree, they are no doubt fast cars but I have seen way more 12.5 sec plus times than 11's or better at the track. They seem to be a hard car to launch and not very consistent. Everyone thinks they will blow away anything but seems there is always some "issue" when they actually race.
I believe it....with that much power and torque and that light of weight, it's got to be an absolute nightmare to get a clean launch in those things, and kudos to those who can do it...*and* manage to hit good, clean, accurately-timed shifts, which in the first few gears would *also* be a nightmare in a car that fast.

It takes a helluvalot of talent to get into the 11's, even in a car that's capable of hitting them, with a manual tranny!!

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Originally Posted by Juice it
Agree, they are no doubt fast cars but I have seen way more 12.5 sec plus times than 11's or better at the track. They seem to be a hard car to launch and not very consistent. Everyone thinks they will blow away anything but seems there is always some "issue" when they actually race.
You could say "driver skill" is a bit more of an issue with the Z06 out of the dig. At least the SL65 keeps it relatively simple stupid on most launches...
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Originally Posted by Juice it
Agree, they are no doubt fast cars but I have seen way more 12.5 sec plus times than 11's or better at the track. They seem to be a hard car to launch and not very consistent. Everyone thinks they will blow away anything but seems there is always some "issue" when they actually race.
Its been a long time!

I agree, I have driven the new Z and it is very hard to launch. It takes plenty of practice. I am very close to pulling the trigger on a 06 SL65 even though I have a slot for a new 07 Z in Jan. I miss my old AMG beast. The car will be coming from the West Coast, and since I am tight with the boys from Kleemann I may have them do the ECU tune. Should bring the car close to 700HP and about 830TQ. Should be a fun car for the next 18 months.
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Its been a long time!

I agree, I have driven the new Z and it is very hard to launch. It takes plenty of practice. I am very close to pulling the trigger on a 06 SL65 even though I have a slot for a new 07 Z in Jan. I miss my old AMG beast. The car will be coming from the West Coast, and since I am tight with the boys from Kleemann I may have them do the ECU tune. Should bring the car close to 700HP and about 830TQ. Should be a fun car for the next 18 months.
You should pull the trigger on mine! I have a Bentley GTC coming in at the end of Dec. and need to make room. I would use Renntech on the 65 as it seems to be proven time and time again and I haven't seen anyone running Kleeman 65's. If I end up keeping mine I am going to have the ecu done for a little boost as well. If you do go with Kleeman I would love to check it out!
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Originally Posted by Juice it
You should pull the trigger on mine! I have a Bentley GTC coming in at the end of Dec. and need to make room. I would use Renntech on the 65 as it seems to be proven time and time again and I haven't seen anyone running Kleeman 65's. If I end up keeping mine I am going to have the ecu done for a little boost as well. If you do go with Kleeman I would love to check it out!


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You should pull the trigger on mine! I have a Bentley GTC coming in at the end of Dec. and need to make room.
Don't do it! The SL65 is so much more beautiful, faster and will be much rarer within 6-months or so.

I'm merely busting your chops, I just love the 65s. Hope you like your new wheels
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Originally Posted by Improviz
I believe it....with that much power and torque and that light of weight, it's got to be an absolute nightmare to get a clean launch in those things, and kudos to those who can do it...*and* manage to hit good, clean, accurately-timed shifts, which in the first few gears would *also* be a nightmare in a car that fast.

It takes a helluvalot of talent to get into the 11's, even in a car that's capable of hitting them, with a manual tranny!!
Throw in launching on regular street tires and you have quite the challenge to extract the best out of the car. Sticky tires certainly help a lot, but it's still not as easy as some may think. Having exclusively owned and drag raced manual cars prior to the SLK55, I know first hand how hard consistency is to come by. The SLK55 is a piece of cake to drive in comparison - consistent 12's all day letting the car do all the work *L*.
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Originally Posted by Juice it
Agree, they are no doubt fast cars but I have seen way more 12.5 sec plus times than 11's or better at the track. They seem to be a hard car to launch and not very consistent. Everyone thinks they will blow away anything but seems there is always some "issue" when they actually race.
I agree with you as an experienced driver goes a long way in getting full performance out of the Z06. Many of the Z06 drivers can do well against a SL65 from a roll but from a stand still, many (not all) will fall prey to a SL65.

I have seen plenty of C6Z06's run at the track and many of the first timers had to abort the run due to traction issues. They are indeed much harder to launch and being bracket consistent is a different story.
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Those are 2 brothers racing. The Sl65 was running mid 12's on street tires, then they put on drag radials.
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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Those are 2 brothers racing. The Sl65 was running mid 12's on street tires, then they put on drag radials.

I read from people that were there (remember you left early) that said it was bone stock and people specifically questioned the tires and they said stock tires. If they did put on drag radials which seems strange they would do it at the track 1 second is a HUGE gain from just tires and most that switch to the drag radials pick up a couple tenths.
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... second is a HUGE gain from just tires and most that switch to the drag radials pick up a couple tenths.
Depends, was the driver a novice or an experienced drag racer? If the former, then DR's can make a more drastic inprovement in times over someone who is already extracting the most out of the car. Someone not used to launching at the track may be blowing off the tires badly each time and DR's can be a big help in reducing that problem and consequently giving a relatively larger improvement in ET.
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Those are 2 brothers racing. The Sl65 was running mid 12's on street tires, then they put on drag radials.
FALSE.

That's not true. Saad called me the night before to ask me if he could borrow my drag radials, but it was too late. He ran on the stock wheels and tires.
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FALSE.

That's not true. Saad called me the night before to ask me if he could borrow my drag radials, but it was too late. He ran on the stock wheels and tires.
Allenlambo gets OWNED again.

This is a very impressive time. At that altitude, just using simple NHRA elevation corection factors on the 11.55 @ 120.44 corrects to 11.40 @ 121.99 . Factoring in humidity and temperature would doubtlessly bump the ET down and the trap up (if the timeslips have this info, please let me know the info and I'll plug and chug).

And this is the car that allenlambo was gonna beat??

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Originally Posted by Improviz
Allenlambo gets OWNED again.

This is a very impressive time. At that altitude, just using simple NHRA elevation corection factors on the 11.55 @ 120.44 corrects to 11.40 @ 121.99 . Factoring in humidity and temperature would doubtlessly bump the ET down and the trap up (if the timeslips have this info, please let me know the info and I'll plug and chug).

And this is the car that allenlambo was gonna beat??
Additionally, the Gallardo has AWD and launch control so should be closer to the SL65 in the 1/4 than t would be on the track. The fact that it isn't makes a complete mockery of Alen Lambo's claim that his Gallardo "SE" (the same as the 06+) would beat a 65 from a roll. The Gallardo is a nice car, but didn't have the brakes or power low down to hang with my stock TT in the canyons last year and wouldn't keep up with an M6 in a highway roll let alone an SL65.

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