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Old 05-03-2007, 10:14 AM
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Finally found one: M5 vs. CLS63

I'm afraid to even post this because I know someone is going to start crying about it, but whatever. I was taking a friend for a drive two nights ago in the good ol' M5, and as we merged onto rt. 3 west there it was, a black on black CLS63 with horrid chrome bezels around the rear lights. He saw me and immediately blipped the throttle. I was in the left lane, he jumped into the middle lane, and we went for it. I was at 7,000 rpm in M mode at about 60mph.

We ripped him a new one up to about 130+. Two car lengths. Maybe he couldn't drive it properly, he was obviously fiddling around in manual mode and I've clocked over 34,000 miles on my E60 to date, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who's had more time behind the wheel of an M5. I know that I can drive the living hell out of the car. I slowed down for oncoming traffic and he flew past me like a ricer and had to almost PUSH a cherokee out of the way to survive. He was obviously pretty pissed. I was trying to give him a thumbs up too!

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Nice Kill. Prepare to get banned for writing this though... LOL
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Wow 2 cars , dude got a spanking..Sounds like you guys should have done more than one run , guess he was embarrased to the core, was he getting head? How did he lose that badly? Great Kill and good sprtsmanship on your part sounds like homie has some heavy a** wheels. Now that is ego weighs much less maybe he would trim your lead. It is a rare chance meeting for you I would have thought you would keep on the guy, nice kill CH, it is RARE you meet up with an M car that actually contains a "good " driver who can handle the car properly
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LOL, VIDEO or BAN.
Old 05-03-2007, 11:19 AM
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nice kill cylinder but i need to hijack dis thread a lil......juice, please remove your sig sir...please....i am the biggest tit fan here on mbworld and i cant concentrate, plus keeps reminding me of my ex who had a 34 D size

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Old 05-03-2007, 11:21 AM
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I'm so glad I'm not an AMG guy posting a kill story on M5Board right now, or I would be BANISHED. I personally think the race should have been much closer. Most numbers put the E63 and M5 almost even, with the advantage going to the E63. The heavier, less slippery CLS63 may lose by the tiniest margin on paper, making it a true driver's race overall. I banged every gear at redline from 3rd to 5th, he may have over-revved or short-shifted.
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I don't wanna see you banned man~...........perhaps it's best you hand over them keys to the M5 and let me take the "punishment" and get yourself a nice AMG
Old 05-03-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
I'm so glad I'm not an AMG guy posting a kill story on M5Board right now, or I would be BANISHED. I personally think the race should have been much closer. Most numbers put the E63 and M5 almost even, with the advantage going to the E63. The heavier, less slippery CLS63 may lose by the tiniest margin on paper, making it a true driver's race overall. I banged every gear at redline from 3rd to 5th, he may have over-revved or short-shifted.

Dude hitting the limiter in the 63 will **** you, it truly sucks and for some reason especially using the paddles it hits the limiter. I have learned to shift more quickly using the paddles because there is a delay prior to it actually upshifting. seems best to shift 5400-5900. I hit the limiter and the car just feels like the rubber band ran out. I love the fact the cars are so close, it was so fun racing other 63's because whoever got in front stayed..Kinda neat. I suppose the m5 hitting the red also is not a good thing?

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Originally Posted by juicee63
Dude hitting the limiter in the 63 will **** you, it truly sucks and for some reason especially using the paddles it hits the limiter. I have learned to shift more quickly using the paddles because there is a delay prior to it actually upshifting. seems best to shift 5400-5900. I hit the limiter and the car just feels like the rubber band ran out. I love the fact the cars are so close, it was so fun racing other 63's because whoever got in front stayed..Kinda neat. I suppose the m5 hitting the red also is not a good thing?

Sorry bout the sig guys.
Yeah man over-revving the M5 is suicide in any race. The gears are extremely short, even in 7th gear at 110 I'm over 4,000rpm. If you bounce off the limiter it will put you out of the powerband in the next gear, so not only are you losing acceleration by boucing off the limiter, you're going to lose more ground by being slapped out of the sweet spot.
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
Yeah man over-revving the M5 is suicide in any race. The gears are extremely short, even in 7th gear at 110 I'm over 4,000rpm. If you bounce off the limiter it will put you out of the powerband in the next gear, so not only are you losing acceleration by boucing off the limiter, you're going to lose more ground by being slapped out of the sweet spot.
Whts the sweet spot on the Barbie Scooter, love the rims man, you shold pink out the center caps.

Just reading the Edmunds review .Seems they also came to the conclusion the M5 and CLS 63 have identical #s, with handling going to the M5 and straight line accel to the 63. So this race should have been scarier for you.
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I know what I'm about to start and I'm ready for it.

Should there be any suprise to this? I don't think a CLS63 can take a M5 on the highway. RIGHT?

M5 is in the mid 12's with a wicked mid-upper range.CLS63......never mind. I mean, for ****s sake, can't an M5 beat a stock E55 on the highway? CLS63 is an awesome car (best looking, by far) but past figures show ...stock for stock...a M5 would win. Besides, if CH can thrash his car like he thrashes MBWorld members........he should be a tough adversary on the road.
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Whts the sweet spot on the Barbie Scooter, love the rims man, you shold pink out the center caps.

Just reading the Edmunds review .Seems they also came to the conclusion the M5 and CLS 63 have identical #s, with handling going to the M5 and straight line accel to the 63. So this race should have been scarier for you.
I'm legally bound from talking about the performance of the Barbie Scooter. Mattell wants to keep a tight lid on its numbers as it is a prototype.
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Originally Posted by amgdriven
I know what I'm about to start and I'm ready for it.

Should there be any suprise to this? I don't think a CLS63 can take a M5 on the highway. RIGHT?

M5 is in the mid 12's with a wicked mid-upper range.CLS63......never mind. I mean, for ****s sake, can't an M5 beat a stock E55 on the highway? CLS63 is an awesome car (best looking, by far) but past figures show ...stock for stock...a M5 would win. Besides, if CH can thrash his car like he thrashes MBWorld members........he should be a tough adversary on the road.
Actually the comparison and tests from edmunds.com suggest the two cars identical 1/4 mile and from 90-130, and suggest the E63 edges both at high speed. The M5 whacks the two AMG's on the slalom but thats about it..from 130-160 the cars should be even just a matter of who is in the sweet spot. They should be looking across at eachother.
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I think the M5 gearing gives it an edge over the 63 Series.
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I think the M5 gearing gives it an edge over the 63 Series.
In this case I'd say it did. The guy I was up against looked like a Guidouche in a dumb looking suit. He was probably in the wrong part of his powerband while I was wound up so tight I could watch my gas gauge plummeting.
Old 05-03-2007, 04:21 PM
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The guy prolly would have done better just to leave the car to drive itself.

My dad try to play around with the Speedshift...thought he was going to blow my engine! He is classic three pedal kinda guy though, and said he was expecting a faster gear change. You've just gotta get used to it I guess...
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
The guy I was up against looked like a Guidouche in a dumb looking suit.
In that case, he should of shot you. Faster then a bullet, CH?
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I saw a nice black new M5 the other day. It sounded like a Ferrari! I wonder what exhaust it had.
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Being in the meat of your power band is key. Nice run. But is only two lengths really considered ripping someone a new one?
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Nice kill
Thats alot of miles on the M,did u find it made a bit more power once it loosened up a bit?
I'm looking forwards to messin around with your car,but I've only got 320mi on the E63 so it may be another month or so
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Thats alot of miles on the M,did u find it made a bit more power once it loosened up a bit?
I'm looking forwards to messin around with your car,but I've only got 320mi on the E63 so it may be another month or so
Breakin really loosened the badboy up. I think its in its prime right now, and I take extremely good care of it. I'm looking into extending the warranty, I don't want to be stuck with the bill when I blow the 7-speed.

Definitely put some more miles on your E63. It won't be at peak performance until at least 2k miles plus.
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yeah,i agree w that.
i have some bikes comin up sunday if your interested in running the supra

i'll run you heads up on my dora scooter vs princess barbie
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2 car lengths to 130 is a kill...

but it really comes down to "who has their machine on the right power band"

from what I gather.. the M5 was ready to blast of at his high rev power band and lightning quick SMG2 and the AMG driver didn't seem to know how to best use his power band.

it should have been closer but the M5 still traps higher and will pull away in any case (stock vs stock)

remove the charcoal filters on the E63 and Sprint booster will provide some additional help to combat the SMG2 advantage.
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Nice kill, that would have been sweet to see!


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