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Old 04-14-2008, 08:05 PM
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I was using GIAC as an example.
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Originally Posted by GDawgC220
I was using GIAC as an example.
Oh, I know but I'm just putting my cards down on the table for all to see
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
When my CLK 55 spins its all season tires at 30mph on rough pavement you know its got monster lowend torque. Topend is no joke where the turbo 4 runs out of steam. Hey Tommy lets head out to E-town.
Easy for someone who has a torque converter vs stock clutch.

Do a highway roll, my money is on Toms car, with my friends Tune he's putting down close to 290-300awhp. Not only that, Tom has mismatched rear summers and front all seasons.

I'll see you at E-town soon Jon. Be sure to have your "Fast" car.
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Audi S4 Avant and BMW X5 4.4
Originally Posted by Quant
first of all, the w208 amgs dyno at 290-305rwhp with a pretty flat torque curve. they only weigh 3475 (check mbusa.com).

a GIAC+intake s4 would be have at most 250awhp with a peaky torque curve. they weigh 3700+lbs (check any audi forum).

btw, i raced my brothers GIAC tuned s4 and won. i easily pulled away from him when my car got traction.

so you would know how fast the W208 amg are. i raced a tuned STI (400hp) and won. i had 2 passengers (380 extra lbs) and he was by himself.
lol........i can assure you there are plenty of Stage 2 S4's (Chip, Exhaust) that can beat a CLK55. The B5 S4 on stock Turbos.....can run mid to lo 12's and trap 107-114 MPH in the 1/4. Thats definitely faster than CLK55's
Old 04-14-2008, 09:22 PM
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Audi S4 Avant and BMW X5 4.4
Originally Posted by Tommy_s4
hmmmmm I have a Lightly modded s4 and I know i can take down that CLK55 of yours.
Mods. Intake, Chip, Diverter Valves.

No exhaust work. No weight savings. and I know I can take down that CLK of yours

Wad'ya say Jon
lemme know if you guys meet up.....i'd like to see this if I'm around
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Originally Posted by Tommy_s4
Well, I'm not running a giac. I'm running a custom SSP chip. Giac gives you 18lbs of boost I'm at 27-23. I also just killed a C55.
Is that much boost safe on a stock motor?
Old 04-14-2008, 09:51 PM
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Just hope you don't blow the motor with all that boost If the CLK 55 had sticky tires it could run in the 12s which is impressive with no mods. But I didn't buy it for drag racing purposes.
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Is that much boost safe on a stock motor?
you can run up to 25 psi safely (give or take) on a stock 2.7T motor. It is very stout and good for 575-600 chp (which is anywhere from 21-25 psi of boost). Anything after that........it is past its limits and pushing your luck
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
you can run up to 25 psi safely (give or take) on a stock 2.7T motor. It is very stout and good for 575-600 chp (which is anywhere from 21-25 psi of boost). Anything after that........it is past its limits and pushing your luck
His car surges which is the funny bit (5th and 6th), going to need to put in a manual boost controller to smooth that out. It's very strong car, must be the low mileage haha.
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Originally Posted by Tommy_s4
Well, I'm not running a giac. I'm running a custom SSP chip. Giac gives you 18lbs of boost I'm at 27-23. I also just killed a C55
with that much boost you should be able to beat my clk55 - but there is no way k03 can handle that. they have a hard time handling 15.
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
lol........i can assure you there are plenty of Stage 2 S4's (Chip, Exhaust) that can beat a CLK55. The B5 S4 on stock Turbos.....can run mid to lo 12's and trap 107-114 MPH in the 1/4. Thats definitely faster than CLK55's
stage2 is a different story. but i think from roll, the clk55 still can win (not by much though)
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
lemme know if you guys meet up.....i'd like to see this if I'm around
As always, Btw I lost your number. We meet a few times I used to have a Silver E class.
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It oughta be a Nice race. K03s struggle to handle 15lbs of boost on a crappy tune. I currently have the strongest custom Stage1 chip. Redline is set to 7,300RPM and I surge with out having a MBC. You would honestly be suprised. I destryoed an M5 ::E39:: from an 80-140. I am honestly impressed with the manor this car can put the power down.

E-town, comon jon whats the point of driving 200 miles and paying 30 bucks in tolls and 35 to get in, then BECAUSE of this new stupid law you have to BUY a helmet if you run faster then 14.1. The helmet is 120. So I dont feel like paying close to 200 bucks to run my car on a track. Besides do you really wana race my car from a dig?
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I went to E-town last yr and rented a helmet you don't have to buy one. Doing it on the street is too risky I'm not taking a chance. I got really lucky last time. I used to know this guy who had a stage 2 Cobalt SS which runs low 13s @107. When he ran my friends 06 350z which runs high 13s @102 the Cobalt got him by the 1/4 mile mark but after that the 350z starts reeling him in. My point is a boosted 4 is no match for a bigger displacement engine when you going at those speeds.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
I used to know this guy who had a stage 2 Cobalt SS which runs low 13s @107. When he ran my friends 06 350z which runs high 13s @102 the Cobalt got him by the 1/4 mile mark but after that the 350z starts reeling him in.
So the car with a trap speed lower by 5mph reeled in the other after the quarter mile? That makes no sense.

Trap speed is what indicates a car's performance after the quarter mile, and a car that traps 102 is simply not reeling in a car that traps 107, unless it is:

a. Driver Error
b. Car Issue
c. Misquoted Times
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
you can run up to 25 psi safely (give or take) on a stock 2.7T motor. It is very stout and good for 575-600 chp (which is anywhere from 21-25 psi of boost). Anything after that........it is past its limits and pushing your luck.
Looks like these B5's were built for the aftermarket.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
I went to E-town last yr and rented a helmet you don't have to buy one. Doing it on the street is too risky I'm not taking a chance. I got really lucky last time. I used to know this guy who had a stage 2 Cobalt SS which runs low 13s @107. When he ran my friends 06 350z which runs high 13s @102 the Cobalt got him by the 1/4 mile mark but after that the 350z starts reeling him in. My point is a boosted 4 is no match for a bigger displacement engine when you going at those speeds.
My car is a twin boosted 6
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Originally Posted by HLG600
Looks like these B5's were built for the aftermarket.
ooooooooh yeaaaah you can run up to 25LBS on Garrett 28s on a stock motor with no problems. Thats why whenever you open a eurotuner you always see some b5 doing something insane
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I have LOTS of experience with B5 S4's...

Here is what an AWE B5 S4 did to my CLK500 from a highway roll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzn5OqKN5jM

A stock turbo (K03) S4 modded and tuned can definitely take a stock CLK55. Trust me.

K04 S4's...well I don't think I have to go into that.
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I have LOTS of experience with B5 S4's...

Here is what an AWE B5 S4 did to my CLK500 from a highway roll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzn5OqKN5jM

A stock turbo (K03) S4 modded and tuned can definitely take a stock CLK55. Trust me.

K04 S4's...well I don't think I have to go into that.
there is no way a stage1 s4 will take a clk55.

sorry, but it just doesn't add up. clk55 weigh less and have more hp.

a stage2 s4 will be close, but the clk55 will win at higher speeds.

stage2+ (w/rs4 intercoolers) will beat a clk55 - not by much though.

i'm more than happy to meet anyone at e-town to test it out
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2002 CLK55
Originally Posted by Tommy_s4
ooooooooh yeaaaah you can run up to 25LBS on Garrett 28s on a stock motor with no problems. Thats why whenever you open a eurotuner you always see some b5 doing something insane
yep - eurotuner once had a really nice issue that talked about the diff mods available for the s4.

too bad they rarely have benzes there.
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Originally Posted by Tommy_s4
It oughta be a Nice race. K03s struggle to handle 15lbs of boost on a crappy tune. I currently have the strongest custom Stage1 chip. Redline is set to 7,300RPM and I surge with out having a MBC. You would honestly be suprised. I destryoed an M5 ::E39:: from an 80-140. I am honestly impressed with the manor this car can put the power down.

E-town, comon jon whats the point of driving 200 miles and paying 30 bucks in tolls and 35 to get in, then BECAUSE of this new stupid law you have to BUY a helmet if you run faster then 14.1. The helmet is 120. So I dont feel like paying close to 200 bucks to run my car on a track. Besides do you really wana race my car from a dig?
any dyno #?
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there is no way a stage1 s4 will take a clk55.

sorry, but it just doesn't add up. clk55 weigh less and have more hp.

a stage2 s4 will be close, but the clk55 will win at higher speeds.

stage2+ (w/rs4 intercoolers) will beat a clk55 - not by much though.

i'm more than happy to meet anyone at e-town to test it out
I can get a Stage 1 S4 to trap 108 MPH with just a chip.....and trap 110+ with Chip and exhaust (Stage 2)......can a CLK55 trap higher than that?
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
I can get a Stage 1 S4 to trap 108 MPH with just a chip.....and trap 110+ with Chip and exhaust (Stage 2)......can a CLK55 trap higher than that?
they can trap at 109, but everyone knows that they are not meant for the 1/4 mile because of gearing and traction. from roll is a diff story


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