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Old 08-07-2007, 01:18 AM
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I believe it is also because of drivetrain loss. For ex,the Evo Lancer IX typically pulls 240 to 255 WHP and 240 to 250 WTQ on a dynamometer. Basically 300 to 320 hp to the crank and it's manual.

So with the autotragic tranny in our C43's the 233 to 240whp is very feasible for 302 @ the crank. I'm not very familiar with the drivetrain losses in both cars, but we lose alot with our trannies.
Nah, that can't be. I think M-B powertrains are some of the most efficient autotragics in the business. 240whp even with 20% drivetrain loss still only equates to ~290hp. Typically Benz 5spd auto's show less losses than that (~17%).
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Nah, that can't be. I think M-B powertrains are some of the most efficient autotragics in the business. 240whp even with 20% drivetrain loss still only equates to ~290hp. Typically Benz 5spd auto's show less losses than that (~17%).
Then the crank hp rating maybe perhaps a little overated by the #'s I've seen on both the Clk430 and the C43 make on a dynojet.
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AndrewAZ
I dont get how you say 320 vs CLK430 then post 320 vs ML55 close race.. The CLK 430 is rated 1/2 a second quicker than an ML55 AMG in 0-60 rating. And over 1/2 second quicker in the 1/2 mile.


Might want to re race with a competent driver behind some of the cars you have listed.. I am not saying you didnt beat them but you beat them because of either a problem with their car or a problem with the driver.

well, when you have raced several 430's and the outcomes are all the same it gets boreing.

Then again the ml55 races i wasnt driving
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:46 PM
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carl you have to remember i run pritty close to a C43. the first time i raced jared i was ahead untill 80. remember?
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:52 PM
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I dont get how you say 320 vs CLK430 then post 320 vs ML55 close race.. The CLK 430 is rated 1/2 a second quicker than an ML55 AMG in 0-60 rating. And over 1/2 second quicker in the 1/2 mile.


Might want to re race with a competent driver behind some of the cars you have listed.. I am not saying you didnt beat them but you beat them because of either a problem with their car or a problem with the driver.
Andrew I was in the car with him on the way back from the Rhode Island meet (my car had a giant boost leak and couldnt make it so I rode shotty)

On the way back we raped a CLK430 a new one. I honestly don't doubt it. A few months back, the mohegan sun meet where I took the ML to Tom had NO problems keeping up with the ML55. I don't doubt it, his car is a piece of odd work.
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:15 PM
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Yeah Toms car is ODD. But tom you gotta understand. That I let off At 80ish maybe 90 ish I didnt post it before cause I didnt want to make it a big deal but, From 2 - 3 gear WOT at that time my car would throw a CEL and go into limp mode till I restarted it. Im sure I told you this at the meet. anyways the ML you were racing at that time was more like an ML5.2 lol and not a 55. But its very true your car is an odd piece of work. Not to mention the SIlver exterior on biege interior lol .. nah im kidding
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Yeah Toms car is ODD. But tom you gotta understand. That I let off At 80ish maybe 90 ish I didnt post it before cause I didnt want to make it a big deal but, From 2 - 3 gear WOT at that time my car would throw a CEL and go into limp mode till I restarted it. Im sure I told you this at the meet. anyways the ML you were racing at that time was more like an ML5.2 lol and not a 55. But its very true your car is an odd piece of work. Not to mention the SIlver exterior on biege interior lol .. nah im kidding
haha riffy your a great guy, i'm going to go to the ct meet, we should all rally up there.
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What I dont get is how one person says a 330ci beat you which runs mid to low 6's 0-60 and upper 14's in the 1/4 mile.. (330ci is slower than my 328i)


How about you guys go to the drag strip and post some numbers. Cause right now these kill stories and what not dont make a lot of sense. I dont doubt it happened I just want to know about your car and some good 1/4 mile numbers will give a lot of us an idea about your car.
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What I dont get is how one person says a 330ci beat you which runs mid to low 6's 0-60 and upper 14's in the 1/4 mile.. (330ci is slower than my 328i)


How about you guys go to the drag strip and post some numbers. Cause right now these kill stories and what not dont make a lot of sense. I dont doubt it happened I just want to know about your car and some good 1/4 mile numbers will give a lot of us an idea about your car.
Because the one he beat was a steptronic, while the 5spd one I drove was a VERY close race, dead even till about 100 or so and then the bmw stretched him. I only underlined the point because Tom hates that hehe.

Me and him will both go to Englishtown after I put my K04 back in. I want to do some Odd E320 spanking myself. Because I know with a k04 my car is vastly quicker in the low end.
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Because the one he beat was a steptronic, while the 5spd one I drove was a VERY close race, dead even till about 100 or so and then the bmw stretched him. I only underlined the point because Tom hates that hehe.

Me and him will both go to Englishtown after I put my K04 back in. I want to do some Odd E320 spanking myself. Because I know with a k04 my car is vastly quicker in the low end.
w.e you say matt, just wait untill i remove those two spair tires that i have in my trunk along with adding that k04 turbo on mine. MUHAHAHA

ps, at least i'm not saying that i beat you so bad that your turbo imploded

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Old 08-08-2007, 04:28 AM
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Let me know before you guys go to the drag strip and ill take my BMW out and run it the same night then we can post slips for the heck of it. Right now its starting to cool down which is great but of course the monsoons could hamper drag what you brung night lol.
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I will bring a STOCK C43, you guys let me know when you want to schedule a run! Then we'll all see E320 vs C43.
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Carl i know what you do to M104 motors man. Did that twinturbo one deserve to blow its head. It was MEAN! But i'll go out to captree this weekend lets all meet up. Maybe we can hit up a dyno on the way back.
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w.e you say matt, just wait untill i remove those two spair tires that i have in my trunk along with adding that k04 turbo on mine. MUHAHAHA

ps, at least i'm not saying that i beat you so bad that your turbo imploded
It don't matter to me, it doesn't take mods to loose you on a twisty road Even with 150hp. Heck even the ML would take the E or dare I even say the Discovery?
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It don't matter to me, it doesn't take mods to loose you on a twisty road Even with 150hp. Heck even the ML would take the E or dare I even say the Discovery?
matt. you still just don't get it. its not about the speed honestly man. i worry that i'm going to turn on the news one day and find out you died. You really gota slow it down. the only time i really ever drive fast is when i'm driving with you, only because your speeding and weaving. me and jared are always doing the speed limit when were not with you man. you really gota slow it down its getting insane man.
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matt. you still just don't get it. its not about the speed honestly man. i worry that i'm going to turn on the news one day and find out you died. You really gota slow it down. the only time i really ever drive fast is when i'm driving with you, only because your speeding and weaving. me and jared are always doing the speed limit when were not with you man. you really gota slow it down its getting insane man.

I'm not the one posting 8 kills on the road. And calling me yesterday how you got pulled over racing a 328xi and how you got a warning, or setting up a race for Sunday with Mbworld members, so quit spewing bull**** please, because you drive quite the same. At least I don't have to worry about the rear end breaking loose on a RWD car with 215 wide rear tires and putting me into a potentially deadly spin.

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Originally Posted by Militant-Grunt
I'm not the one posting 8 kills on the road. And calling me yesterday how you got pulled over racing a 328xi and how you got a warning, or setting up a race for Sunday with Mbworld members, so quit spewing bull**** please, because you drive quite the same. At least I don't have to worry about the rear end breaking loose on a RWD car with 215 wide rear tires and putting me into a potentially deadly spin.
matt i raced from 5mph to the speed limit, no HIGH SPEED THERE. Honestly. on top of all that we might be stageing a race here, but where? on a 13mile barren island with no minivans? comon matt. Everyone at your shop thinks your insane. Also i never go fast enough in to a turn to spin or break loose.
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Let's get a nice meet going this Sunday at Capetree, we'll meet at the rest stop on the Southern State at say 7:30 AM and cruise. Who's in?
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Wheres the rest stop on the Southern St?
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Let me add on about speeding. There is a foolish risky way of speeding when you cut drivers off in and out of traffic. The smart way is when there is no traffic and speeding. Its not worth it risking your life and other drivers
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jon i agree. btw the rest stop on the southern is near the beggining coming off the crossisland
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I will be at OBI this Sun. I'm bringing my gf. My gf goes crazy when I drive a little too fast. So I don't think there are going to be any runs.
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I will be at OBI this Sun. I'm bringing my gf. My gf goes crazy when I drive a little too fast. So I don't think there are going to be any runs.
Meet us at the rest stop at 7:30AM
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