Kill Stories Discuss your exciting high speed excursions here!

02 E55 vs 02-04 SVT Cobra

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 10-04-2007, 09:24 PM
  #1  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Nocturnal-G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA, CA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 E55 AMG
02 E55 vs 02-04 SVT Cobra

On the way back from school today... a black 01-04 SVT Cobra pulled up next to me, REVVED LOUD.. IT WAS VERY LOUD, I don't know if he had a supercharged version or not... but it was incredibly loud. At first I floor it get ahead of him get in front, then after I hung out a little bit waited for him because I can tell he wasn't trying. So he pulls next to me, floors it... then I floor it, he kept up with me, but I was pulling harder, and I took him by very little... maybe a half a car length because there wasn't much space to play with. I gotta say tho, they are fast. Well has anyone raced one of these, and does anyone know if I was racing a supercharged one? Because it sounded like he did much more to it than stock.
Old 10-04-2007, 09:43 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Hazy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: P'cola, FL
Posts: 455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'03 E55
I raced a modified one that handed me my *** bigtime.
Old 10-04-2007, 10:12 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
jturkel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,856
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
02 C32 AMG
Originally Posted by Nocturnal-G
On the way back from school today... a black 01-04 SVT Cobra pulled up next to me, REVVED LOUD.. IT WAS VERY LOUD, I don't know if he had a supercharged version or not... but it was incredibly loud. At first I floor it get ahead of him get in front, then after I hung out a little bit waited for him because I can tell he wasn't trying. So he pulls next to me, floors it... then I floor it, he kept up with me, but I was pulling harder, and I took him by very little... maybe a half a car length because there wasn't much space to play with. I gotta say tho, they are fast. Well has anyone raced one of these, and does anyone know if I was racing a supercharged one? Because it sounded like he did much more to it than stock.
you probably were not. cobras starting coming supercharged stock from the factory in 03 and 04. like our cars, they can do pulley upgrades, though the pulley kits for their cars is cheaper. the 2001 and 2002 models have 320 hp stock and 319 lb-ft tq and the 2003 and 2004 390 hp stock and 390 lb-ft tq.

the stock figures i have found say that the N/A (2001-2002) Cobras run 13.5s while the S/C Cobras (2003-2004) run 12.9s. Being that you ahead of this car and assuming you have the N/A E55 (which i think you do), i would assume that it was the 2001/2002 Cobra that is not supercharged. Those cars can be really loud if you throw an exhaust and headers and cams on them.

Nice kill though
Old 10-04-2007, 10:13 PM
  #4  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Nocturnal-G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA, CA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by Hazy1
I raced a modified one that handed me my *** bigtime.
Oh WOW... and you own the 03 E55 which has the Kompressor. I'm guessing this Cobra wasn't supercharged then, cuz I'm lucky I took the lead by a little.
Old 10-04-2007, 10:20 PM
  #5  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Nocturnal-G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA, CA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by jturkel
you probably were not. cobras starting coming supercharged stock from the factory in 03 and 04. like our cars, they can do pulley upgrades, though the pulley kits for their cars is cheaper. the 2001 and 2002 models have 320 hp stock and 319 lb-ft tq and the 2003 and 2004 390 hp stock and 390 lb-ft tq.

the stock figures i have found say that the N/A (2001-2002) Cobras run 13.5s while the S/C Cobras (2003-2004) run 12.9s. Being that you ahead of this car and assuming you have the N/A E55 (which i think you do), i would assume that it was the 2001/2002 Cobra that is not supercharged. Those cars can be really loud if you throw an exhaust and headers and cams on them.

Nice kill though
Thanks... I think it had an H-Pipe on it. It was modded some way. But yeah I agree with you, it had to be a 01/02... and yeah my car is stock.
Old 10-05-2007, 08:21 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Hazy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: P'cola, FL
Posts: 455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'03 E55
Originally Posted by Nocturnal-G
Oh WOW... and you own the 03 E55 which has the Kompressor. I'm guessing this Cobra wasn't supercharged then, cuz I'm lucky I took the lead by a little.

The one that I lost to was heavily modified according to both the owner and the beating that I took. I have run with another that was S/C and looked/sounded stock and I left him behind without a problem.

I would still guess that your's wasn't the S/C version, or he wasn't giving it everything (which I've never known a Mustang driver to do).
Old 10-05-2007, 12:02 PM
  #7  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Nocturnal-G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA, CA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by Hazy1
The one that I lost to was heavily modified according to both the owner and the beating that I took. I have run with another that was S/C and looked/sounded stock and I left him behind without a problem.

I would still guess that your's wasn't the S/C version, or he wasn't giving it everything (which I've never known a Mustang driver to do).
Since we didn't get to higher speeds... how would you think I would have done? Because I know AMG's pull harder and harder. I really wanted to ask him details but I couldn't because I had to make a turn to drop a friend off. Oh... btw my car had 3 other passengers, 4 including me. LOL
Old 10-05-2007, 01:29 PM
  #8  
Newbie
 
SVT2Z06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2008 Corvette Z06
Originally Posted by Nocturnal-G
Since we didn't get to higher speeds... how would you think I would have done? Because I know AMG's pull harder and harder. I really wanted to ask him details but I couldn't because I had to make a turn to drop a friend off. Oh... btw my car had 3 other passengers, 4 including me. LOL
As a former Cobra owner I can tell you that the faster the speeds got, the more you would start pulling him. Both cars are heavy and lack a lot of aero advantages but the cobra is not a "top speed" car and does not do well at really fast speeds (150+). They just arent set-up to race at those kinds of speeds.

Beware of the 03/04 cobra's as guys can slap on an aftermarket supercharger for about $3k and put those things over 600+ rwhp! Then they go and post up a kill story they have on a "more expensive car" over at SVTperformance. Believe me, every race that's EVER been won by a mustang over a MB, BMW, Lambo, Porsche or Ferrari has been posted on a mustang message board somewhere. LOL, they live for that stuff!
Old 10-05-2007, 09:32 PM
  #9  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Nocturnal-G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA, CA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by SVT2Z06
As a former Cobra owner I can tell you that the faster the speeds got, the more you would start pulling him. Both cars are heavy and lack a lot of aero advantages but the cobra is not a "top speed" car and does not do well at really fast speeds (150+). They just arent set-up to race at those kinds of speeds.

Beware of the 03/04 cobra's as guys can slap on an aftermarket supercharger for about $3k and put those things over 600+ rwhp! Then they go and post up a kill story they have on a "more expensive car" over at SVTperformance. Believe me, every race that's EVER been won by a mustang over a MB, BMW, Lambo, Porsche or Ferrari has been posted on a mustang message board somewhere. LOL, they live for that stuff!
I'm sure if I take my limiter off, I can beat a Cobra by alot because in my opinion AMG's are top speed cars. Yeah, those supercharged Cobra's scare me. Maybe if I drop a supercharger in my baby I can take a supercharged Cobra.
Old 10-05-2007, 11:06 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Hazy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: P'cola, FL
Posts: 455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'03 E55
Originally Posted by Nocturnal-G
I'm sure if I take my limiter off, I can beat a Cobra by alot because in my opinion AMG's are top speed cars. Yeah, those supercharged Cobra's scare me. Maybe if I drop a supercharger in my baby I can take a supercharged Cobra.
Doooo It.
Old 10-06-2007, 03:05 AM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
HLG600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 3,799
Received 239 Likes on 185 Posts
R230 SL63 | W220 S55
Nice run. Those supercharged ones are a force to be reckoned with. Some minor modifications and you have yourself a QTR monster. As for the sound, about a month ago I merge onto the highway and hear this uncorked V8 down the road. Getting excited, I quickly maneuver around other traffic and come across a black 'Stang with a LOUD rumble coming out of those large chrome tips. I pass him and attempt to bait the guy, but no bite. He took the next exit...oh well...
Old 10-06-2007, 07:00 AM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
jturkel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,856
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
02 C32 AMG
Originally Posted by Nocturnal-G
I'm sure if I take my limiter off, I can beat a Cobra by alot because in my opinion AMG's are top speed cars. Yeah, those supercharged Cobra's scare me. Maybe if I drop a supercharger in my baby I can take a supercharged Cobra.
KENNE BELL!!!!!!
Old 10-07-2007, 03:29 AM
  #13  
Almost a Member!
 
bcfos's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
02 Aston DB7, 08 E63, 00' C230 "Special Edition", Highly modified Jeep Wrangler
The 03 and 04 cobra's are pretty fun to mod up and you can do it for a whole lot less than a benz. For around 6k in mods you can be pushing 600 hp at the rear wheels. But after 120 or so a honda civic can pull on them. They just are not made to be top end cars. Sure they can get to 120 really quick but after that it is like shooting fish in a barrell. Even the new Shelby GT 500's are a joke.
Old 10-07-2007, 03:59 AM
  #14  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Nocturnal-G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA, CA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by bcfos
The 03 and 04 cobra's are pretty fun to mod up and you can do it for a whole lot less than a benz. For around 6k in mods you can be pushing 600 hp at the rear wheels. But after 120 or so a honda civic can pull on them. They just are not made to be top end cars. Sure they can get to 120 really quick but after that it is like shooting fish in a barrell. Even the new Shelby GT 500's are a joke.
Hehe, I love racing cars like that. Like that new Saturn SKY Red Line... 0-60 in about 5 seconds.. but after that it's total crap. HAHA
Old 10-08-2007, 12:04 PM
  #15  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
ChicagoX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: In a box
Posts: 2,513
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
W211 E55
Originally Posted by bcfos
The 03 and 04 cobra's are pretty fun to mod up and you can do it for a whole lot less than a benz. For around 6k in mods you can be pushing 600 hp at the rear wheels. But after 120 or so a honda civic can pull on them. They just are not made to be top end cars. Sure they can get to 120 really quick but after that it is like shooting fish in a barrell. Even the new Shelby GT 500's are a joke.

How many have you run?

I see them turning low- to mid-12's stock at the track.
Old 10-08-2007, 06:44 PM
  #16  
Member
 
1FSTAMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 173
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
C32 AMG - RIP :(
the crap in this thread amazes me.

First of all, there was no 2002 Cobra. In THAT body style they are 99/01 = 320 hp non-supercharged. They didn't make a 2000 because of hp problems with the 99's. They also didn't make a 2002 because they were preparing for the 2003/2004's which came with a supercharger and were underrated at 390 hp. Most put out approx. 370 rwhp stock.

I had a 2003 with a $100 blower pulley, $200 catback exhaust, $80 cold air intake, and $300 dyno tune. At 426 rwhp and on slicks before the pulley/tune I ran 11.76@118 with a 1.63 60 ft. After the pulley/tune and stage 3 blower porting I was making 517rwhp. Total spent: less than $1500.

bone stock I had NO problem hitting the stock limiter at 155mph. After the mods I could blow past the speedometer indicated 165mph and still be pulling no problem.

So...don't underestimate an 03/04 Cobra, especially if they have drag radials. Also, don't be fooled into thinking that they don't pull top end. With less than $1500 in mods they will run north of 170 mph.
Old 10-12-2007, 03:14 PM
  #17  
Member
 
ushawk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I downgraded to a VW, it's still German though
You killed what you killed, but don't underestimate a kid in a V-8 Mustang or F-body that has a few dollars in his pocket.

My cousin's '04 Cobra with mods like 1FSTAMG has posted can run high 11's with a some decent driving. He could probably go faster with better tires. Swap to a Kenne Bell and it is fierce. They can bust half shafts in the rear like snapping a twig. Those cars can break 170 no problem, and get there really damn fast. Look for the subtle rear spoiler, big hood bulges with twin reversed scoops, and the oval foglight holes with an oval lower grill down below. Those are the 03/04 Cobra's, assuming they still have stock bodywork. They don't have the panache and luxury a Benz has though. So win or lose, you still are in a well built box with leather and engineering refinement.

Last edited by ushawk1; 10-12-2007 at 03:17 PM.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: 02 E55 vs 02-04 SVT Cobra



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:21 AM.