timberman

seeing as you guys like facts and figures so much i thought i'd post this up for you, its a 3/4 mile drag event from last year to give you some real world results.

the times shown are the best achieved by each car on the day ( most of us managed to get in at least 5 runs), all on the same track and in the same conditions.

There were a few AMG's present, no SL600 but notice the SL65 at #8 and Z06 at #7,
although the Z06 achieved the quicker time the SL65 reached the higher speed which would suggest that over a longer distance the SL65 would have been the quickest.

for ref I came in at #76, but I still beat a E39 M5 and an Audi RS4



1 7 adrian w Noble M400 23.49
2 16 LuckyP Ultima GTR 23.8
3 4 Yorkshire Porsche 997 Turbo 23.94
4 91 Mr Harris Lamborghini 24.03
5 6 jasonsear Nissan GTR R34 24.36
6 9 Blkrokt Porsche 996 TT 24.39
7 26 Twerlie Noble M12 24.64
8 11 Songman3 Corvette C6-Z06 24.64
9 2 phatgixer Mercedes SL65 AMG 24.78
10 20 kenny0811 Porsche 996 Turbo 24.82
11 33 paulsearle TVR TT Griffith 500 24.92
12 8 tinker27 Mazda RX7 24.97
13 46 cbj GD427 Euro 25.26
14 37 Mr Noble Noble M12 GTO3R 25.27
15 18 Brummiewedge TVR Cerbera LS2 25.32
16 5 DMC GT-500 Evolution 25.33
17 77 A TVR TVR 25.55
18 49 Housemaster Porsche 996 GT3 MKII 25.58
19 30 henna777 Porsche 997 GT3 25.58
20 69 daddysumo Noble M12 GTO 3R 25.7
21 10 acrman Viper SRT Coupe 25.72
22 50 nelly1 TVR Tuscan 25.79
23 31 Focused TVR Cerbera 25.8
24 47 grahamn TVR Cerbera 25.83
25 44 bigblockmark TVR Tuscan S 25.84
26 27 996TurboSean Porsche 996 Turbo 25.86
27 75 Andy RX7 Mazda RX7 25.86
28 21 Flea Fiat Coupé 20v Turbo 25.89
29 55 HarryW TVR Cerbera 25.95
30 32 keithyboy TVR Cerbera 25.98
31 1 Longbow TVR Cerbera 4.2 26.02
32 58 scooper TVR T350c Red Rose 26.03
33 42 KeithW TVR Cerbera 26.19
34 68 Wilder TVR Cerbera 26.21
35 65 pocty Porsche 996 GT3 RS 26.22
36 78 cupra3 Seat Ibiza 26.28
37 54 MadMark TVR Cerbera 4.5LW 26.33
38 51 kippax TVR Tuscan 26.37
39 38 FUBAR TVR Cerbera 26.42
40 3 N GTS Dodge Viper 26.49
41 79 Seasider TVR Griffith 26.55
42 41 satman TVR Cerbera 26.57
43 19 firesafetydave Mercedes E55 26.65
44 48 Funkster Noble GTO 3R 26.72
45 60 R8NAN TVR Cerbera 26.72
46 81 Byker28i TVR Cerbera 26.78
47 64 touching cloth TVR Cerbera 26.81
48 67 Cerberowner TVR Cerbera 26.86
49 66 Luckyone TVR Cerbera 26.95
50 85 VX220T VX220 Turbo 26.98
51 83 Katman TVR Cerbera 27.07
52 63 Timmy2TARs TVR Cerbera 4.5LW 27.09
53 76 toadusmodus TVR Cerbera 4.2 27.12
54 90 JaryJ VW Golf 27.13
55 35 TvrTone TVR Cerbera 27.15
56 39 big arm TVR Cerbera 27.2
57 43 AM04ARO Vauxhall Monaro 27.21
58 86 tbdgriffith500 TVR Griffith 500 27.23
59 40 XTR2Turbo Chevrolet Corvette C6 27.28
60 80 Olly TVR Cerbera 27.29
61 25 speed six TVR Cerbera 27.39
62 45 C8 CDS TVR Cerbera 27.49
63 61 Slarty Bartfast BMW M3CSL 27.53
64 82 maahny BMW M Coupe 27.63
65 62 Cyclone1 BMW 335D M-SPORT 27.68
66 53 Ben2 TVR Tuscan 2 S 27.74
67 72 warpig1 TVR Cerbera Sp Six 27.95
68 34 BLUETHUNDER TVR Cerbera 4.2 27.96
69 29 RussellM TVR Cerbera 27.99
70 74 buzz01 TVR Cerbera 28.06
71 59 jfk1958 TVR Cerbera 28.26
72 84 wfarrell BMW Z3 M Coupe 28.27
73 24 Morgan Monaro 6.0VXR 28.3
74 56 deerhunter Audi RS4 B5 28.37
75 70 RUF123 Mercedes E55 28.4
76 71 timberman Mercedes C32 AMG 28.45
77 23 v66len Holden Capa F-320 28.5
78 36 s4woody BMW M5 E39 28.53
79 88 NO.53 TVR Griffith 28.71
80 17 allblack Audi RS Avant 28.82
81 52 A GTS MG Xpower SV 29.05
82 87 Fatdad Hyundai 30.23
83 57 C3BER TVR Cerbera 4.5 RR 30.33
84 92 Andy Howarth Subaru 30.75
85 22 caretaker Audi RS4 30.93
86 73 Hollowpockets TVR T350 31.06
87 15 Michael Swift Subaru 31.09
88 89 toptotz Seat leon cupra r 31.31
89 28 Alex Harris BMW 330 31.94
90 14 Army Chap Peugeot 32.81

Improviz

Thanks for the info. Do you have the trap speeds available? All I see here are times, and I would love to see those traps!

timberman

here you go
the numbers at the end refer to time placings

I'd just like to point out that the SL65 was standard apart from having the limiter removed, hence the higher than restricted 155 speeds

1 - adrian w - Noble M400 - 173.2 - 1
2 - Mr Harris - Lamborghini - 172.33 - 4
3 - Yorkshire - Porsche 997 Turbo - 169.52 - 3
4 - Blkrokt - Porsche 996 TT - 166.31 - 6
5 - LuckyP - Ultima GTR - 165.51 - 2
6 - phatgixer - Mercedes SL65 AMG - 164.77 - 9
7 - Songman3 - Corvette C6-ZD6 - 164.17 - 8
8 - kenny0811 - Porsche 996 Turbo - 163.63 - 10
9 - N GTS - Dodge Viper - 162.8 - 41
10 - paulsearle - TVR Twin Turbo Griffith 500 - 162.74 - 11
11 - jasonsear - Nissan GTR R34 - 162.62 - 5
12 - Twerlie - Noble M12 - 162.15 - 7
13 - HarryW - TVR Cerbera - 160.98 - 30
14 - NickCCC - TVR Cerbera - 160.69 - 17
15 - tinker27 - Mazda RX7 - 160 - 12
16 - 996TurboSean - Porsche 996 Turbo - 159.83 - 27
17 - Brummiewedge - TVR Cerbera LS2 - 159.2 - 15
18 - henna777 - Porsche 997 GT3 - 159.2 - 19
19 - keithyboy - TVR Cerbera - 158.75 - 31
20 - Housemaster - Porsche 996 GT3 MKII - 158.02 - 18
21 - Focused - TVR Cerbera - 157.69 - 24
22 - Unknown - Mazda RX7 - 157.25 - 28
23 - acrman - Dodge Viper SRT Coupe - 157.08 - 21
24 - Flea - Fiat Coupé 20v Turbo - 156.31 - 29
25 - Mr Noble - Noble M12 GTO3R - 155.98 - 14
26 - cbj - Gardner Douglas GD427 Euro - 155.88 - 13
27 - MadMark - TVR Cerbera 4.5LW - 155.88 - 38
28 - bigblockmark - TVR Tuscan S - 155.77 - 26
29 - Longbow - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 155.55 - 32
30 - pocty - Porsche 996 GT3 RS - 155.39 - 36
31 - scooper - TVR T350c Red Rose - 155.28 - 33
32 - nelly1 - TVR Tuscan - 155.07 - 22
33 - Wilder - TVR Cerbera - 155.01 - 35
34 - cupra3 - Seat Ibiza - 154.32 - 37
35 - FUBAR - TVR Cerbera - 154.21 - 40
36 - grahamn - TVR Cerbera - 153.89 - 25
37 - R8NAN - TVR Cerbera - 153.84 - 46
38 - satman - TVR Cerbera - 153.73 - 43
39 - TvrTone - TVR Cerbera - 153.57 - 56
40 - Luckyone - TVR Cerbera - 152.53 - 50
41 - Cerberowner - TVR Cerbera - 152.48 - 49
42 - KeithW - TVR Cerbera - 152.22 - 34
43 - Byker28i - TVR Cerbera - 152.22 - 47
44 - daddysumo - Noble M12 GTO 3R - 150.83 - 20
45 - C8 CDS - TVR Cerbera - 150.83 - 63
46 - touching cloth - TVR Cerbera - 150.78 - 48
47 - firesafetydave - Mercedes E55 - 150.68 - 44
48 - AM04ARO - Vauxhall Monaro - 150.22 - 58
49 - DMC - Ford Shelby GT-500 Evolution - 150.12 - 16
50 - Olly - TVR Cerbera - 150.02 - 61
51 - buzz01 - TVR Cerbera - 149.87 - 71
52 - kippax - TVR Tuscan - 149.77 - 39
53 - Timmy2TARs - TVR Cerbera 4.5LW - 149.72 - 53
54 - toadusmodus - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 149.72 - 54
55 - big arm - TVR Cerbera - 149.57 - 57
56 - Seasider - TVR Griffith - 149.07 - 42
57 - Slarty Bartfast - BMW M3CSL - 148.87 - 64
58 - jfk1958 - TVR Cerbera - 148.63 - 72
59 - JaryJ - VW Golf - 148.08 - 55
60 - Funkster - Noble GTO 3R - 147.84 - 45
61 - XTR2Turbo - Chevrolet Corvette C6 - 147.35 - 60
62 - speed six - TVR Cerbera - 147.3 - 62
63 - RussellM - TVR Cerbera - 146.82 - 70
64 - tbdgriffith500 - TVR Griffith 500 - 146.58 - 59
65 - warpig1 - TVR Cerbera Speed Six - 146.05 - 68
66 - Katman - TVR Cerbera - 145.77 - 52
67 - Morgan - Vauxhall Monaro 6.0VXR - 145.48 - 74
68 - Ben2 - TVR Tuscan 2 S - 145.29 - 67
69 - VX220T - VX220 Turbo - 145.06 - 51
70 - maahny - BMW M Coupe - 144.68 - 65
71 - BLUETHUNDER - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 144.59 - 69
72 - deerhunter - Audi RS4 B5 - 144.31 - 75
73 - Cyclone1 - BMW 335D M-SPORT - 143.52 - 66
74 - s4woody - BMW M5 E39 - 143.39 - 79
75 - RUF123 - Mercedes E55 - 142.79 - 76
76 - timberman - Mercedes C32 AMG - 142.61 - 77
77 - NO.53 - TVR Griffith - 141.61 - 80
78 - wfarrell - BMW Z3 M Coupe - 141.53 - 73
79 - v66len - Holden Capa F-320 - 140.5 - 78
80 - allblack - Audi RS Avant - 138.67 - 81
81 - A GTS - MG Xpower SV - 135.93 - 82
82 - Fatdad - Hyundai - 135.03 - 83
83 - Andy Howarth - Subaru - 126.2 - 84
84 - toptotz - Seat leon cupra r - 125.7 - 87
85 - Michael Swift - Subaru - 124.54 - 86
86 - caretaker - Audi RS4 - 124.37 - 85
87 - Alex Harris - BMW 330 - 123.48 - 88
88 - Army Chap - Peugeot - 119.27 - 89

here's a link to the event organisers web page showing the complete results table, (you may need to sign up to view it )

http://fightingtorque.org/supercar/i...id=6&Itemid=69

Improviz

Thanks!

ItalianStallion

When the weather warms up a bit (like end of March or so), I am willing to arrange a race between a stock C6 Z06 and any stock SL600 from a highway roll in the tri-state region (in Mexican highways of course). Dead serious.

Zlicious

Hello Exodus,

I totally believe your stroy and I currently owned a C6 Z06. Why do I believe it? because ANYTHING can happen on the street OR THE TRACK (Not sure why people always refer to anything happening only on the street). Let me assure you that stock for stock, the only Mercedes that is as fast as the Z06is the SLR. Sock for stock, the SL600 is not going to outrun a Z06. Now, what if you are the better driver? What is the Z06 lost traction? What if the Z06 was in the wrong gear? Rev-limiter? etc. Well, then obviously you will win.

I hardly discredit Z06 kills on any forums (well, except the Viper forums, those guys were truly in denial...but not anymore with the new 08, ha) becasue I know anything can happen out there. You won, that was that. Good job. Next time, you might not get so lucky and run into a driver that is alert and competent. Only then will you be in trouble..

Zlicious

Oh, and btw, if there are any modded SL600's, AMG's, etc. in the MI area that like to have a good time and cruise, let me know.

Vabene7

Exodus,
It's not worth going on. Everyone is so ready to call anything out that seems out of the ordinary.
So many factors that occured in your pulls with the vette, that no one can predict the outcome. Faster, slower or indifferent, it just went the way it did.
So many geeks that read and post here are overly ready to pounce and call you out for not being honest. So gay......

People.....relax and just enjoy the reading....

ItalianStallion

I'm still up for a friendly run. NYC area or Nothern NJ, I'm good . Stock C6 Z06.

Improviz

There's nothing "gay" about considering how likely (or unlikely) an event is in light of KNOWN FACTS about two cars' relative performance. And the FACT is that even heavily-modded E55s get walked by bone stock Z06s, as can be seen in the videos I linked to here:
Also, look at the numbers provided by Timberman above. A stock Z06 did the 3/4 mile run thusly:
1 7 adrian w Noble M400 23.49 @ 173.2
2 16 LuckyP Ultima GTR 23.8 @ 165.51
3 4 Yorkshire Porsche 997 Turbo 23.94 @ 169.52
4 91 Mr Harris Lamborghini 24.03 @ 172.33
5 6 jasonsear Nissan GTR R34 24.36 @ 162.62
6 9 Blkrokt Porsche 996 TT 24.39 @ 166.31
7 26 Twerlie Noble M12 24.64 @ 162.15
8 11 Songman3 Corvette C6-Z06 24.64 @ 164.17
9 2 phatgixer Mercedes SL65 AMG 24.78 @ 164.77

The Benz which would run the closest to an SL600, an E55, ran
43 19 firesafetydave Mercedes E55 26.65 @ 150.68

That's two full seconds. Unless this Z06 driver was handicapped with an IQ of 90, no screwup he could have made, short of running with his parking brake on, would be insurmountable over that distance.

And gearing-wise, how could he screw it up? The Z06 shifts into 2nd at 59 mph, so he'd be pretty low on the rpm scale to throw it into this gear, unless he was stupid enough to go for 3rd--in which case he could downshift and close the gap.

After 2nd, he'd have to execute a shift at 88 mph into 3rd, and one more into 4th at 121; he wouldn't have to shift again, as 4th would take him all the way up to 157, faster than they went in this race.

Even if he was a mediocre shifter, two shifts wouldn't cost him two full seconds.

So how is it possible for him to blow a 60-150 race in a car which traps 10 mph faster through the 1/4, and runs a 3/4 mile race two full seconds and 14 mph faster than the car he was running, when both vehicles got on it at the same time?

And what is "gay" about wondering how it is possible? Should we just accept any claim on its face, no matter how implausible, just because the guy is driving a Benz? Particularly when he won't even agree to do it again or show up at a 1/4 mile track?

Get real. We reserve the right to discuss, in a discussion forum, whether or not a "kill story" seems plausible. And while it may be difficult for you to believe, sometimes people can, and do, embellisn and/or make stuff up and post it here; click here for an example:

Vabene7

We should catch up one of these days..... I was in money-makin-manhattan today at the car show.
I would love to see the new ride - & let you see what I did to to my 209.
Take it for a test ride and see what you think.



Originally Posted by Improviz View Post
Hmm, let me guess, the E55 was a Stage 5 Renntech, and he smoked that big bad Z06....just like this guy did in his Stage 5 Renntech, in two races, one from 30 mph, and one from 40!!
Link to video:
Link to thread:

Brutal...man, that modded E55 just mopped the floor up w/that Z06!

OK, I believe him now! [/sarcasm]


I'm not listening, but I hear ya.......

ItalianStallion

Once the weather breaks, I'll be hitting up those Thurs night meets in Edgewater. Maybe I'll see you there sometime.