My CLK63 BS vs. CLS55
04-18-2008, 06:28 PM
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More money (daddy's) than brains..... enough said......
Actually not enough said...I never said a stock Z06 could run an 11.5 on stock tires. The car has problems hooking up...and furthermore... d!ck head... I never claimed to be John Force.... but as we all have seen you are the brightest person in the world...
Tom
Actually not enough said...I never said a stock Z06 could run an 11.5 on stock tires. The car has problems hooking up...and furthermore... d!ck head... I never claimed to be John Force.... but as we all have seen you are the brightest person in the world...
Tom
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04-18-2008, 06:33 PM
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04-18-2008, 06:44 PM
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Actually I will apologize about the daddy/money comment. I am not "hating" on you for what you have. Maybe if you would just stop acting like a punk we could be bestest friends...
Tom
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04-18-2008, 06:46 PM
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Do you know how many times I hear "Daddy's Money"? It gets real old, real fast, but it's kind of funny, if that is the best thing you can come up with you are a pretty sorry azz MF! Don't get mad at me be cause you are a pathetic OFF (over financed), don't hate beacuse I spent more on mods than your sorry azz Bimmer is probably worth. Don't hate because I make more money in a month than you will make in a year...or two. Hell, I probably spend more on vacations in a year than you make....don't hate me my friend, don't hate!
You want to see arrogance, I'll show you arrogance...I wrote a check for a Vanquish last weekend...and guess what, the check cleared. My garage is most likely larger than your entire sorry azz house. If I want a faster car, I will go out tomorrow and buy one...if it's not fast enough I will dump $100k into it if I have to. I own a motorcyle that is worth more than your M5. I owned an M5 when they were still cool to own and not yesterdays news... Should I keep going, or has this been arrogant enough? Let me know, I have a ton more material.
EDIT...my mistake I see you own a CL 65 not an M5...I saw your screen name and just assumed?
So do you have the new CL65....or yesterdays news?
You want to see arrogance, I'll show you arrogance...I wrote a check for a Vanquish last weekend...and guess what, the check cleared. My garage is most likely larger than your entire sorry azz house. If I want a faster car, I will go out tomorrow and buy one...if it's not fast enough I will dump $100k into it if I have to. I own a motorcyle that is worth more than your M5. I owned an M5 when they were still cool to own and not yesterdays news... Should I keep going, or has this been arrogant enough? Let me know, I have a ton more material.
EDIT...my mistake I see you own a CL 65 not an M5...I saw your screen name and just assumed?
So do you have the new CL65....or yesterdays news?
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04-18-2008, 06:52 PM
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You want to see arrogance, I'll show you arrogance...I wrote a check for a Vanquish last weekend...and guess what, the check cleared. My garage is most likely larger than your entire sorry azz house. If I want a faster car, I will go out tomorrow and buy one...if it's not fast enough I will dump $100k into it if I have to. I own a motorcyle that is worth more than your M5. I owned an M5 when they were still cool to own and not yesterdays news... Should I keep going, or has this been arrogant enough? Let me know, I have a ton more material.
Wish i can walk into a car dealer, buy a car i like, write a check for it and clear it just like that. Maybe you can spot some change for a lowly brotha? lol
04-18-2008, 06:54 PM
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How am I acting like a punk? I posted a legit kill story and you start in on me how a Z06 "should" beat me. Like I said earlier, could ah, should ah, would ah...It did not beat me. How did I become the punk for defending myself? I am so sick of peopel on here throwing in their two cents about what should beat what and why. If it does not happen in the real world it is myth. You bring up "modded GT 500", well guess what...it was not, is that my fault? Should I have told the guy " I can't run you, your not modded enough" that would sound more arrogant than anything I have already said.
04-18-2008, 07:01 PM
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jrcart:
In case you didn't read it. I was sincere in my apology about the daddy/money comment...in all seriousness...I regret it and it was wrong of me and I will apologize once more for it.
FYI
I had an E39 M5 when "it was still cool". I had the M5 AND an Audi RS6 (a 6 month overlap). I purchased the RS6 strangely enough from Audi of Naperville. I then owned a Jeep SRT8... and now a 2005 CL65. So get it straight.... I am an OFF owner of a CL65!!!
As for the house I just sold my personal residence for 7 figures it had 5 bedrooms and it was in a posh suburb of DC...so I am not sure about the garage comment.
Tom
In case you didn't read it. I was sincere in my apology about the daddy/money comment...in all seriousness...I regret it and it was wrong of me and I will apologize once more for it.
FYI
I had an E39 M5 when "it was still cool". I had the M5 AND an Audi RS6 (a 6 month overlap). I purchased the RS6 strangely enough from Audi of Naperville. I then owned a Jeep SRT8... and now a 2005 CL65. So get it straight.... I am an OFF owner of a CL65!!!
As for the house I just sold my personal residence for 7 figures it had 5 bedrooms and it was in a posh suburb of DC...so I am not sure about the garage comment.
Tom
04-18-2008, 07:03 PM
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Uh....502hp at the wheels and about 500 pounds lighter than a CLS that's what! If I could have hooked it would have been much worse. Have you been sleeping for the past 6 months while the build of my car has been posted all over this site? What stock 65 do you think is going to beat my car? CL? SL? S?...not a chance in hell if it's stock. I've been lookin for a 65 to terrorize, any takers?
... SL65 runs even w/C6 Z06! weighs 3100lbs a lot less than your bs, any tuned 600/or stk 65 will give you good trouble, ever heard of TORQUE
800+lb of it?? I'll gladly run you in my SL600 after tuning
Remember there is always someone faster.... What was your RWTO again?? 450 or??? in the dyno from Evosport they seemed to leave that part out in your final dyno??
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04-18-2008, 07:04 PM
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How am I acting like a punk? I posted a legit kill story and you start in on me how a Z06 "should" beat me. Like I said earlier, could ah, should ah, would ah...It did not beat me. How did I become the punk for defending myself? I am so sick of peopel on here throwing in their two cents about what should beat what and why. If it does not happen in the real world it is myth. You bring up "modded GT 500", well guess what...it was not, is that my fault? Should I have told the guy " I can't run you, your not modded enough" that would sound more arrogant than anything I have already said.
I really wasn't trying to tick you off by suggesting a Z06 should have run better than it did...okay maybe the 7 car lengths was a bit much. But your response was straight out of Punk 101 class...
Tom
04-18-2008, 07:06 PM
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jrcart:
In case you didn't read it. I was sincere in my apology about the daddy/money comment...in all seriousness...I regret it and it was wrong of me and I will apologize once more for it.
FYI
I had an E39 M5 when "it was still cool". I had the M5 AND an Audi RS6 (a 6 month overlap). I purchased the RS6 strangely enough from Audi of Naperville. I then owned a Jeep SRT8... and now a 2005 CL65. So get it straight.... I am an OFF owner of a CL65!!!
As for the house I just sold my personal residence for 7 figures it had 5 bedrooms and it was in a posh suburb of DC...so I am not sure about the garage comment.
Tom
In case you didn't read it. I was sincere in my apology about the daddy/money comment...in all seriousness...I regret it and it was wrong of me and I will apologize once more for it.
FYI
I had an E39 M5 when "it was still cool". I had the M5 AND an Audi RS6 (a 6 month overlap). I purchased the RS6 strangely enough from Audi of Naperville. I then owned a Jeep SRT8... and now a 2005 CL65. So get it straight.... I am an OFF owner of a CL65!!!
As for the house I just sold my personal residence for 7 figures it had 5 bedrooms and it was in a posh suburb of DC...so I am not sure about the garage comment.
Tom
04-18-2008, 07:39 PM
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Ricker:
I had a Powerchip tune on my M5. It didn't add to much for a N/A engine... but it did smooth out the throttle. They were very easy to work with and since it was an upload through the OBD port it was pretty easy to do as they sent the laptop and cable. The Powerchip tune for the CL65 seems a little weak.. only 30hp gain. Not quite the same jump as the 600 tune.
Tom
I had a Powerchip tune on my M5. It didn't add to much for a N/A engine... but it did smooth out the throttle. They were very easy to work with and since it was an upload through the OBD port it was pretty easy to do as they sent the laptop and cable. The Powerchip tune for the CL65 seems a little weak.. only 30hp gain. Not quite the same jump as the 600 tune.
Tom
04-18-2008, 08:07 PM
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Powerchip is a solid company, but RennTech seems to offer the best tune, numbers wise. If want something more raw, and don't mind shelling out some cash, Brabus offers a tuning program for the AMG's M275 V12, that includes I believe revised turbochargers and better cooling. Or, if you want even more than that, look up Evosport's crack at the V12. Man I love the aftermarket. 
04-18-2008, 08:44 PM
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You want to see arrogance, I'll show you arrogance...I wrote a check for a Vanquish last weekend...and guess what, the check cleared. My garage is most likely larger than your entire sorry azz house. If I want a faster car, I will go out tomorrow and buy one...if it's not fast enough I will dump $100k into it if I have to. I own a motorcyle that is worth more than your M5. I owned an M5 when they were still cool to own and not yesterdays news... Should I keep going, or has this been arrogant enough? Let me know, I have a ton more material.
04-18-2008, 09:10 PM
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check this out....
Originally Posted by Thericker
I kept hearing this but now am a believer! wow!! under-rated AHOY!!
Performance of Maybach
Base engine size 5.5 liters 6.0 liters
Base engine type V-12 V-12
Horsepower 550 hp 604 hp
Horsepower rpm 5,250 4,800
Torque 663 lb-ft. 738 lb-ft.
Torque rpm 2,300 2,000
Payload 1,157 lbs. 1,157 lbs.
Drive type rear-wheel rear-wheel
Turning radius 24.3 ' 24.3 '
stock 600 5.5 = Horsepower 550 hp & Torque 663 lb-ft
Just like the E55 rating @ 469 hp when we all know after a lot of dyno testing it is = to all the other 5.5 liter 500hp engines.
Did a search on stock 600 TT engine dyno.... Holy shi*t!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBrady
481.5 rwhp OEM... that is just amazing. We are TRULY in the golden age of automotive performance. car will SMOKE virtually any of the factory muscle cars from the 60s and 70s. a VERY quiet, VERY refined, VERY fast beast.
Regarding drivetrain loss. The smoother you make a car and the stronger (heavier) the components (hint: this is a heavy smooth POWERFUL car) the greater the drivetrain loss. 15% is a reasonable number for a NON IRS rear wheel drive car with a manual transmission. Most luxury cars in this class have a least 20% loss and can be higher (4wd). 22% seems exceedingly reasonable.
22% loss calc: 481.5 / 78 x 100 = 617 flywheel horsepower.
also, 718 flywheel torque
This 600 TT car engine appears to be underated by OVER 100hp and 100tq
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Originally Posted by Thericker
I kept hearing this but now am a believer! wow!! under-rated AHOY!!
Performance of Maybach
Base engine size 5.5 liters 6.0 liters
Base engine type V-12 V-12
Horsepower 550 hp 604 hp
Horsepower rpm 5,250 4,800
Torque 663 lb-ft. 738 lb-ft.
Torque rpm 2,300 2,000
Payload 1,157 lbs. 1,157 lbs.
Drive type rear-wheel rear-wheel
Turning radius 24.3 ' 24.3 '
stock 600 5.5 = Horsepower 550 hp & Torque 663 lb-ft
Just like the E55 rating @ 469 hp when we all know after a lot of dyno testing it is = to all the other 5.5 liter 500hp engines.
Did a search on stock 600 TT engine dyno.... Holy shi*t!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBrady
481.5 rwhp OEM... that is just amazing. We are TRULY in the golden age of automotive performance. car will SMOKE virtually any of the factory muscle cars from the 60s and 70s. a VERY quiet, VERY refined, VERY fast beast.
Regarding drivetrain loss. The smoother you make a car and the stronger (heavier) the components (hint: this is a heavy smooth POWERFUL car) the greater the drivetrain loss. 15% is a reasonable number for a NON IRS rear wheel drive car with a manual transmission. Most luxury cars in this class have a least 20% loss and can be higher (4wd). 22% seems exceedingly reasonable.
22% loss calc: 481.5 / 78 x 100 = 617 flywheel horsepower.
also, 718 flywheel torque
This 600 TT car engine appears to be underated by OVER 100hp and 100tq
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