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Old 08-05-2008, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by renesis83
those are some pretty high gains, I am impressed,
how reliable is the car after that or does it turn in to a gernade
My mechanic now works at a BMW dealership and he is seeing a lot of problems with tuned 335s. He also said BMW is cracking down hard and keep dreaming about warranty afterwards.
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Latest on my 600 is, IC & pump thru codes & are being replaced along w/new engine mounts...I think the 335i guys are going to be singing a different tune when I get her back & re-race Mario

Yo Mario tell Mike to come back down too we all need a re-match after this news...
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We live pretty close to each other, I have always wanted to race an E60 M5 with my 335i would you be up for it?
Now ricker's soon going to be all fixed up I'll see how you do against him in the rematch. If you don't get obliterated then you've certainly got a fast 335i and I'd be happy to meet up
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Latest on my 600 is, IC & pump thru codes & are being replaced along w/new engine mounts...I think the 335i guys are going to be singing a different tune when I get her back & re-race Mario

Yo Mario tell Mike to come back down too we all need a re-match after this news...
Excellent!!, I knew it had to be a bad pump...You would be surprised how much power gets robbed by heat in these engines. The V12 is a sun of heat by itself. I am glad they found problem. Happy hunting.
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Thanks bro!

Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
Excellent!!, I knew it had to be a bad pump...You would be surprised how much power gets robbed by heat in these engines. The V12 is a sun of heat by itself. I am glad they found problem. Happy hunting.

It was funny when I went down to pick-up my loaner (new Toyota Camry) I spoke to the lead mechanic, as he told me the news I cheered woo-hoo! he looked at me like I was nuts saying "Jeez your excited somethings wrong?" I said yes, I want her to work as intended..
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Originally Posted by SLK55R
My mechanic now works at a BMW dealership and he is seeing a lot of problems with tuned 335s. He also said BMW is cracking down hard and keep dreaming about warranty afterwards.
It is true the 335i's are having some problems but its because of the car not the tune. They are having wastegates problems and high pressure fuel pumps failing. It has nothing to do with the tune because 90% of the failures are on bone stock cars with less than 10,000 miles.
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Latest on my 600 is, IC & pump thru codes & are being replaced along w/new engine mounts...I think the 335i guys are going to be singing a different tune when I get her back & re-race Mario

Yo Mario tell Mike to come back down too we all need a re-match after this news...
please film..

I have no problems cars with the n54 being fast and telling people how much better their car is and how it cost 1/3 of the price and its still a BMW.. ect.. ect and its sex on wheels..

but beating a SL600 by a few car lengths will need more than JB3, Intake, FMIC and Race Gas.

I read the post on the E90 forum.. he claims for $500 he can beat a SL600. He just forgot to mention the FMIC, Intake and money spent on lowering the car.

He also claims the SL600 has a full exhaust.. which only really has a straight pipe. Hardly a mod. MB's exhaust do nothing.

The weak argument my car is cheaper and faster is left for the boys in blue, dogde and Chevy. SRT-4-8, LS1, LS2, LS3, cobras ect... and lets not forget the Honda boys.

That argument holds no water around here.


Let's see what happends when both cars run healthy.

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Mario's a good guy, but yes he did leave out his other mods, he also has an upgraded Intercooler, in his defense though he's also rockin' 20"s

I just talked w/him on the phn he must be thinking he might get beat once my 600's outta' the shop because he just upgraded the Juicebox software from stage 3 to it's final beta testing level *RACE MAP TUNE*.....He also used Race gas in our race, I'm sure he will on our re-match..

I'll be rollin' w/seat coolers/massage function ON, plus full spare in the trunk

I told him mod the hell out of it! Your going to see a different race once she's fixed... This is going to be a 6 + pager I fear lol.....

Here's his sig info from e90 world.....
E90 335iA BLK/BLK 20" DPE GT-6, BMS Dual intake, RPI intercooler, JB3, Koni Yellow, H&R
He needs to update the ECU info now *RACE MAP TUNE* He also has different Exhaust, not sure if it's just tipps or a cat-back?

I'll try getting video, I bought a new Voyager LG phn it has nice video function..

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Originally Posted by TopGun32
please film..


The weak argument my car is cheaper and faster is left for the boys in blue, dogde and Chevy. SRT-4-8, LS1, LS2, LS3, cobras ect... and lets not forget the Honda boys.

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I got it too, when I had my C6 Vette..
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The weak argument my car is cheaper and faster is left for the boys in blue, dogde and Chevy. SRT-4-8, LS1, LS2, LS3, cobras ect... and lets not forget the Honda boys.

That argument holds no water around here.
As opposed to "Well my interior is nicer" or "Hey at least it's a German car!"?
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Yes, the race will be fun and we will have to get it on video. I wanted to clarify my mods, I have JB3 and intakes. I sold the intercooler a couple of weeks ago, and for exhaust I just have 4" tips. Hopefully you will get your SL back today.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
Yes, the race will be fun and we will have to get it on video. I wanted to clarify my mods, I have JB3 and intakes. I sold the intercooler a couple of weeks ago, and for exhaust I just have 4" tips. Hopefully you will get your SL back today.
Wait you just told me on the phone you updated your ECU from JB3 to *RACE MAP TUNE*

Doubt they'll be done w/SL today there's a bunch o' little things being fixed along w/IC & motor mounts, like my nav/cigg lighter/etc...
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Sorry bro I missed your post, I'm going to get any airbox mod they offer plus ECU & lowering maybe a couple more depending on what they can do for my 600! I agree the Scorpion airbox looks evil!
I'm really itching to see the results on that box. Although not as tidy as the OEM bit, the improved flow looks to be significant. There's a lot of fury within the M275 just begging to be unleashed. You're going to see some satisfying results!
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Wait you just told me on the phone you updated your ECU from JB3 to *RACE MAP TUNE*

Doubt they'll be done w/SL today there's a bunch o' little things being fixed along w/IC & motor mounts, like my nav/cigg lighter/etc...
I just want you to understand that its the same software just a different setting. Yes it does have a slightly more aggressive setting.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
I just want you to understand that its the same software just a different setting. Yes it does have a slightly more aggressive setting.
I know it's the same Juicebox Co. but not the same tune setting you used when we raced last week

re-read my earlier quote...
he just upgraded the Juicebox software from stage 3 to it's final beta testing level *RACE MAP TUNE*

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Well comon..... Aside from the 65's, 55's and 600's what else is "boosted"


In stock form
What else is there?
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and lets not forget the Honda boys.

That argument holds no water around here.

whats wrong with having a Honda that cost 10k including mods that can beat cars that are way more expensive?

I never understood people who talk down on other cars just because they are cheaper.
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Originally Posted by CrazyDonkey
whats wrong with having a Honda that cost 10k including mods that can beat cars that are way more expensive?

I never understood people who talk down on other cars just because they are cheaper.
you are missing the point..

there is always somebody cheaper and faster... the argument is endless.

Coming from owning a 91, 94,98 Honda Acccord, 96 Acura Integra, 2001 CL-Type S.. I know what I'm talking about.

The reason I posted such comment was due to the 335 driver talking smack of how he beat a $120k car with a car worth $40k and $500 chip.

ready the post bro.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
you are missing the point..

there is always somebody cheaper and faster... the argument is endless.

Coming from owning a 91, 94,98 Honda Acccord, 96 Acura Integra, 2001 CL-Type S.. I know what I'm talking about.

The reason I posted such comment was due to the 335 driver talking smack of how he beat a $120k car with a car worth $40k and $500 chip.

ready the post bro.
Actually the original window sticker says $140k not inc tax etc.. though I bought it for half that Nothing like a used 600 w/warranty
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
I read the post on the E90 forum.. he claims for $500 he can beat a SL600. He just forgot to mention the FMIC, Intake and money spent on lowering the car.

The weak argument my car is cheaper and faster is left for the boys in blue, dogde and Chevy. SRT-4-8, LS1, LS2, LS3, cobras ect... and lets not forget the Honda boys.

That argument holds no water around here.


Let's see what happends when both cars run healthy.
You left out pontiac...thats the exact same argument being used on the slk vs gto thread..lol.

I agree that he should've posted all his mods..and not try to hide the fact he needed to be relatively heavily modded to beat the mercedes.

That in a way makes him a ricer...just like if i said i beat a bugatti veyron off the line and didnt mention the fact that he was parked and he wasn't even driving the car.
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wow long thread so im late to the game!

335i is a nice car but watch out turbos tend to go boom with added boost. Warranty does not work well if you have any mods and a turbo job is 13k!! A SL600 should easily walk a 335i so his car is running hard. Just run him a bunch of times until his car runs into limp home mode with excessive coolant temp and very high oil temps. The funny part is that people have not noticed that its not just oil temps causing issues with these 335i's but that coolant hits 274 and that equals a red engine light and limp home mode. For serious use that car needs a intercooler, radiator, and oil cooler upgrade.

As for the "wiggle" you get changing lanes Ricker, that is your tire wiggling around. I have the same issue with my SL55 which has 295/30/19 PS2s as well (on renntech 10.5 inch wide monolites). I will never buy a Michelin PS2 again after having both my E55 and SL55 wiggle all over the place under load. The smooth ride comes from a super soft side wall and that super soft side wall means its wanders all over the place when you put a ton of load through it. If you take your tire, deflate it, and poke your finger into the side wall you will feel a section that is extremely thin and very soft. That wiggle is the tire just flexing like crazy under load. Move to Bridgestones or Yokos next time around and it will feel a ton better.
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
wow long thread so im late to the game!

335i is a nice car but watch out turbos tend to go boom with added boost. Warranty does not work well if you have any mods and a turbo job is 13k!! A SL600 should easily walk a 335i so his car is running hard. Just run him a bunch of times until his car runs into limp home mode with excessive coolant temp and very high oil temps. The funny part is that people have not noticed that its not just oil temps causing issues with these 335i's but that coolant hits 274 and that equals a red engine light and limp home mode. For serious use that car needs a intercooler, radiator, and oil cooler upgrade.

As for the "wiggle" you get changing lanes Ricker, that is your tire wiggling around. I have the same issue with my SL55 which has 295/30/19 PS2s as well (on renntech 10.5 inch wide monolites). I will never buy a Michelin PS2 again after having both my E55 and SL55 wiggle all over the place under load. The smooth ride comes from a super soft side wall and that super soft side wall means its wanders all over the place when you put a ton of load through it. If you take your tire, deflate it, and poke your finger into the side wall you will feel a section that is extremely thin and very soft. That wiggle is the tire just flexing like crazy under load. Move to Bridgestones or Yokos next time around and it will feel a ton better.
Thank you for the info!!!

Damn I thought it might be that, I remember squeezing in on the side walls of the big 295's before install sheet is soft! I thought it might be in the front end because I don't feel it under full throttle while running in a straight line only while changing lanes & especially while changing lanes & punching it!!

Even at slow surface street speeds if I change a lane it freakin' wobbles, I put big 265/35's up front I noticed how the sidewall shape is nice an fatt compared to say Pirellis and others you mentioned..

BTW SL600 should be ready tomorrow, & Mario's ready to run!! He said he just bought a bunch of Torco, hell if he wants to use it during our race so am I......I'll be videoing from my new LG Voyager phn, & perhaps Mario's bro's will tale us and catch it w/real vid cam!!

I told him to just duct tape it to my bumper or will never see his car again lol..


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