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Old 08-14-2008, 05:47 AM
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I hope dealer doesnt **** with your ECU and ruin your car. Im in that perdiciment right now.
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I hope dealer doesnt **** with your ECU and ruin your car. Im in that perdiciment right now.
My ECU is bone stock what do you mean?
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You left out pontiac...thats the exact same argument being used on the slk vs gto thread..lol.

I agree that he should've posted all his mods..and not try to hide the fact he needed to be relatively heavily modded to beat the mercedes.

That in a way makes him a ricer...just like if i said i beat a bugatti veyron off the line and didnt mention the fact that he was parked and he wasn't even driving the car.
All my mods have always been listed on my sig on E90post and when I raced TheRicker I had the STOCK intercooler. I sold the intercooler about two weeks before we raced. I have ECU and intakes thats it, not really "highly modified"
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My ECU is bone stock what do you mean?
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w220/256597-dealership-reset-ecu.html
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[IGNORE ALL THIS BELOW, I NOW SEE THE NEW THREAD POSTED, SORRY...]

Ahhh!!!

I feel like someone ripped the last 10 pages out of my library book!

I found this "older" thread. Read the whole thing and the end of the story is missing! WTF!

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those are some pretty high gains, I am impressed,
how reliable is the car after that or does it turn in to a gernade
Yes its a time bomb when putting close to 400whp. This guy had one and it was running poorly knocking often. The comp on these motors are too high for too much boost.
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Yes its a time bomb when putting close to 400whp. This guy had one and it was running poorly knocking often. The comp on these motors are too high for too much boost.
Your right about too high compression but these are "direct port injection" motors and run very different that a stanard BMW motor. Even the E46 M3 with 11.5 CR is having no problem running 10psi on a stock block and its not even Direct Port.
I have 26k on my car with 15psi and zero problems, many guys have 50k with 12 to 15psi and no problems. If you have a good tune like the Juice Box 3 then there's nothing to worry about. Good software is more than just adding boost.
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parts

were do you guys get performance parts for your Mercedes.
like pte thermostat? tried to google that and could not find anything.
my sl600 is still stock, so need parts.
many thanks!
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Originally Posted by sl600_pilot
were do you guys get performance parts for your Mercedes.
like pte thermostat? tried to google that and could not find anything.
my sl600 is still stock, so need parts.
many thanks!
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you in the wrong thread....they're fighting right now
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Dude no way in hell an SL600 rolling should lose to a tuned 335...Hell If you lost to a 335, I do not care if it is Terry Burger himself , you would lose to the CLS 63!!! I was at the track with Terry and while he had quicker ET's MY CAR OUTRAPPED HIS by 1.5 mph.

Sean bro,

did you get your car fixed?

It obviously was broken
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I personally run the JB3 now and the tune is amazing and reduces boost do to the the increased IAT Decay, so it is pretty much a saftey feature that helps to not overboost the turbo's. Also Vishnu's car is not the fastest around, also vishnu has many problems with limp modes, major boost spikes and pulling timing and increasing boost above the recommended level which is around 15 psi on 91 or 93 octane.......

Also to the guy who said he had a ET which was better than Terry's car obviously doesnt mean anything, its all about the time, because if i am not mistaken a 11.8 @ 115 beats a car at 12.0@116.5.......obviously we would all like to see high ET's though


Also I ran a guy from this forum 2 weeks ago who has a 2005 E55 AMG and won by about 3 car lengths from a 40-120mph run, we ran it 3 times, everytime was the same result.........


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JB3 1.1V
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Code 3 spearco FMIC
usually running 100 octane

With that setup I am right around 400whp and 400wtq........
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Dude no way in hell an SL600 rolling should lose to a tuned 335...Hell If you lost to a 335, I do not care if it is Terry Burger himself , you would lose to the CLS 63!!! I was at the track with Terry and while he had quicker ET's MY CAR OUTRAPPED HIS by 1.5 mph.

Sean bro,

did you get your car fixed?

It obviously was broken
Yup fixed & he tried to run vs me & his friends C6 but got left in trhe DUST

Hey it was great meeting you all! Krazzeee results from multi races Danny (W211 BEAST) deff must have a failing intercooler, (MJ50) got beat by Mario's 335i by 2 lengths he told us he has a Renn pulley & ECU

I used 100 octane mix & pulled Danny by 10+ lengths Mario also beat Danny by 5+ lengths Mario DIDN'T use RACE GAS..

Best part!!!! Mario's bro came out w/heavily modded C6 Corvette longtube headers Supercharged etc... My SL600 ran DEAD even w/him on (2) races he's putting down around 500 rwhp so he must've suffered from the heat or something, though he said it felt strong He's run a 12.00 flat @ 118+ mph on a CA 1/4 track..

I think my 600 tt likes RACE GAS Today was great, you w211 guys better watch out for modded 335i's today deff proved there a MAJOR SLEEPER
Originally Posted by MJ50
it was nice meeting you all (sean, mario, dwayne, danny and evan)
i hate to admit but yes, mario's E90 335i pulled harder than mine...
after doing few runs with danny on the way back home, i pulled much better even after he had a head start.... i want another run with mario
taking up all the lanes on 101 at 40mph was fun
Originally Posted by MJ50
had another run with mario's 335i today...
downshifting to 2nd made a world of difference thx for the tip guys...
i accidentally shifted to 3rd one time today and i had no chance...
sorry to misrepresent E55 last week...
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I ran Dwayne's C6 the last Euro-meet we all went to, I figured something like heat or IC must've plagued his C6, (we ran dead even on 2 races) but you say he was still
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Bring the Vette.
Mario had a friend with a SCed C6 this past weekend...it was quick. It left all of us in the dust. It out runs stock Z06s.
Mario lined up w/Dwayne & my SL but said he gave up after we both started pulling on him, (I think there wasn't enough room for a 3 way lol!) I hope we can run them again.
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That day the SL had race gas (torco) it did seem like the SL was pulling away from me. I guess Octane does make a difference in "boosted" cars.

I guess my 600tt likes the 100 octane, I'll be running it again @ the next meet def would like to race all you guys
His 335i isn't competition for an SL600TT

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Funny you have the same mods as Mario...

Originally Posted by Blackedout335i
I personally run the JB3 now and the tune is amazing and reduces boost do to the the increased IAT Decay, so it is pretty much a saftey feature that helps to not overboost the turbo's. Also Vishnu's car is not the fastest around, also vishnu has many problems with limp modes, major boost spikes and pulling timing and increasing boost above the recommended level which is around 15 psi on 91 or 93 octane.......

Also to the guy who said he had a ET which was better than Terry's car obviously doesnt mean anything, its all about the time, because if i am not mistaken a 11.8 @ 115 beats a car at 12.0@116.5.......obviously we would all like to see high ET's though


Also I ran a guy from this forum 2 weeks ago who has a 2005 E55 AMG and won by about 3 car lengths from a 40-120mph run, we ran it 3 times, everytime was the same result.........


I run:

JB3 1.1V
RR catless DP's
AFE dual cone intake
Code 3 spearco FMIC
usually running 100 octane

With that setup I am right around 400whp and 400wtq........
Let's run'em
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Dude no way in hell an SL600 rolling should lose to a tuned 335...Hell If you lost to a 335, I do not care if it is Terry Burger himself , you would lose to the CLS 63!!! I was at the track with Terry and while he had quicker ET's MY CAR OUTRAPPED HIS by 1.5 mph.

Sean bro,

did you get your car fixed?

It obviously was broken
Let's run 'em Juice! it'll be a good race..
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Let's run 'em Juice! it'll be a good race..
I was gonna say.. Dam I knew you would WALK away, car would abuse me uptop.

Those bimmers are incredible from a dig but even my 63 will catch and pass.

yeah yeah TB did "out ET" me but he could still lose to my 63 , especially if he sleeps atthe light. Not likely, my car would definately start pulling the 335 at 90 ish.

The SL600 man o man that would likely beat me , wished I would have run you when she was brokeee, LOL.

Danny is coming to run me @ fontana Nov1st
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Originally Posted by juicee63
I was gonna say.. Dam I knew you would WALK away, car would abuse me uptop.

Those bimmers are incredible from a dig but even my 63 will catch and pass.

yeah yeah TB did "out ET" me but he could still lose to my 63 , especially if he sleeps atthe light. Not likely, my car would definately start pulling the 335 at 90 ish.

The SL600 man o man that would likely beat me , wished I would have run you when she was brokeee, LOL.

Danny is coming to run me @ fontana Nov1st
Errrr I think he'll be enjoying the view of your taillights

ps..How bout we hit the TNT 1/8 mile @ irwindale on thur night?

Only thing I have deleted MUFFLERS, the irwindale track says NO mufflers NO track time, do you know if they'll catch my missing mufflers before we run @ tech chk in? the car idles very nicely because of the Turb's

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Originally Posted by juicee63
I was gonna say.. Dam I knew you would WALK away, car would abuse me uptop.

Those bimmers are incredible from a dig but even my 63 will catch and pass.

yeah yeah TB did "out ET" me but he could still lose to my 63 , especially if he sleeps atthe light. Not likely, my car would definately start pulling the 335 at 90 ish.

The SL600 man o man that would likely beat me , wished I would have run you when she was brokeee, LOL.

Danny is coming to run me @ fontana Nov1st
I just realized you're not stock... What do you have?

And Sean... Are you rolling to Fontana?
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I don't understand how you lost to the 335 even stage3, they still run mid 12's.
A well runing SL600 should be runing 1/4 in the high 11's, very low 12's in stock form. If I'd have to guess before your race, I'd put money on your SL instead of the C6 as well.
You should take your car to 1/4 track and see how well you do. Make sure to have AC off and speedshift on at a high RPM when launching from a roll.
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You guys need to stop under estimating the 335. Thats what I said before we did some runs with him, but that car is sickeningly fast. You'll see when they post the vids.
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I don't understand how you lost to the 335 even stage3, they still run mid 12's.
A well runing SL600 should be runing 1/4 in the high 11's, very low 12's in stock form. If I'd have to guess before your race, I'd put money on your SL instead of the C6 as well.
You should take your car to 1/4 track and see how well you do. Make sure to have AC off and speedshift on at a high RPM when launching from a roll.
You need to re-read it....I had repairs done & used race gas the 335i had NO chance of keeping up after I did this & the 335i LOST... still a fast car though..

I found out later the 335i was using RACE GAS as well, infact he used it on ALL the previous runs when I didn't, it makes a BIG difference on us CA 91 octane guys, the gas here is absolute KRAP! also Turbo'd cars love high octane
EVERY SINGLE high 11' - mid to high 12' RECORD RUN ON DRAGTIMES w/335's was made WHILE USING RACE GAS, in addition to nearly every MOD available they can bolt-on or ADD to that 335 model bmw.

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Originally Posted by W211 BEAST
I just realized you're not stock... What do you have?

And Sean... Are you rolling to Fontana?
Not certain it's the 1st of nov, I'll deff try n' make it...

ps Juice is modded, & a helluva driver, you should try racing someone w/less experience as well as a stock vehicle like you have
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We're just ding it for fun. I know I dont stand much of a chance. Just trying to get my feet wet. I figure if I race someone better than me it will motivate me to want to become better. And I'm happy to hear that you gave that little 335 what it deserved. Sorry Mario, but it feels like crap when you lose to a 335. Thw orld just doesnt make sense anymore. lol
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You guys wont be talking so much **** once these turbo upgrades come out that have been in development for a while now. also AMS performance has steped in on the ball game with the 335i, so I guess you will be seeing my taillights once I get some bigger turbos...........


hmmmmm I smell easy low 11's, possibly high 10's at 500+ whp and wtq on my 335i.............

you gotta remember this car is only 2 years old. Let me upgrade my turbos and i think there will be alot more crying going down on this board.......
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Originally Posted by Blackedout335i
You guys wont be talking so much **** once these turbo upgrades come out that have been in development for a while now. also AMS performance has steped in on the ball game with the 335i, so I guess you will be seeing my taillights once I get some bigger turbos...........


hmmmmm I smell easy low 11's, possibly high 10's at 500+ whp and wtq on my 335i.............

you gotta remember this car is only 2 years old. Let me upgrade my turbos and i think there will be alot more crying going down on this board.......
yeah, yeah, yeah, if I had this mod blah, blah, etc... Where are you located, I'll show you my taillghts w/my stock turbos on my STOCK SL600 right now all in good fun of course
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