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Old 02-02-2009, 10:16 PM
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Im the owner of the M3. I was told by some other forum members this thread was going on and was also told the OP was telling people I made up a fake name on this forum and have been posting as someone else (AMGuyE55) I personally don't have time to be doing such things and have a feeling it is some other, more childish members of a different forum trying to stir the pot. For the record, my mods are as listed in the video, untuned. The only reason I am posting on here is because the video of the races were posted on streetfire.net and don't want to get flamed or bashed by this forums members for saying I post on here from a fake name. Im man enough to post from my own.
ok? thanks for making your point? AMGuyE55 came off very defensive and we simply questioned his motives....thats all. No one is getting flamed or bashed, so chill out.

and out of curiosity, if you dont have a tune, how did you get above 155? your car is limited to 155 from the factory.

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Originally Posted by jturkel
ok? thanks for making your point? AMGuyE55 came off very defensive and we simply questioned his motives....thats all. No one is getting flamed or bashed, so chill out.

and out of curiosity, if you dont have a tune, how did you get above 155? your car is limited to 155 from the factory.
Oh boy here we go again, most cars can do a little more then 155. All I'm going to say.
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Kindafast....what were your mods in this race? Did you have the complete Stg II setup?
Old 02-03-2009, 12:36 AM
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I have LET 185 crank pulley, LET intake, LET HE, res and secondary cats delete and maybe a tune, my MB dealership told me they reset the ECU back in September, is it possible to go above 155 if it was once there but then reset?

Isn't stage1 just tune and stageII pulley? I thought stage III was headers and everything in STGII?

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Old 02-03-2009, 12:43 AM
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I just found this thread nevermind https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...wer-times.html
Old 02-03-2009, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kindafast
I have LET 185 crank pulley, LET intake, LET HE, res and secondary cats delete and maybe a tune, my MB dealership told me they reset the ECU back in September, is it possible to go above 155 if it was once there but then reset?

Isn't stage1 just tune and stageII pulley? I thought stage III was headers and everything in STGII?
Eh....It is debatable, but I think most would consider:
Stage I - pulley and tune.
Stage II - Stage 1 + plugs, wires, intake, headers
Stage III - Stage II + cam, lsd
Stage III+ - anything else on top ie: nitrous, meth injection

how do you maybe have a tune? if they reset your ecu, your tune would go bye-bye. I don't know how it would affect he delimiter. This is why I am confused how the M3 went above 155 (heck, more like 165+) without a tune. The speed-limiter doesn't allow it to get that high up without someone taking off that speed-limiter during a tune.
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......"160......Film it!, Film it!........I got it..........170........bleep, bleep, bleep"......


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Good runs in Mexico man! Be careful!
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Originally Posted by Akademiks
Oh boy here we go again, most cars can do a little more then 155. All I'm going to say.
156, 157, maybe even 160, but not 170 and pulling. Something stinks here.
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Originally Posted by kindafast
I have LET 185 crank pulley, LET intake, LET HE, res and secondary cats delete and maybe a tune, my MB dealership told me they reset the ECU back in September, is it possible to go above 155 if it was once there but then reset?

Isn't stage1 just tune and stageII pulley? I thought stage III was headers and everything in STGII?
An ECU reset by the dealer will restore the speed limiter.
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Good runs in Mexico man! Be careful!
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by kindafast
I have LET 185 crank pulley, LET intake, LET HE, res and secondary cats delete and maybe a tune, my MB dealership told me they reset the ECU back in September, is it possible to go above 155 if it was once there but then reset?

Isn't stage1 just tune and stageII pulley? I thought stage III was headers and everything in STGII?
Great race kindafast. However, I am a little surprised now. I cant believe that the m3 was side by side with you with your mods, especially the 185 mm pulley. Do you have some cooling issues?
BTW, I enjoy all the racing videos you make. I wish I lived close to mexico to do what you do with my c32.
Maybe you should get your ecu flashed again by LET.
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Great race kindafast. However, I am a little surprised now. I cant believe that the m3 was side by side with you with your mods, especially the 185 mm pulley. Do you have some cooling issues?
BTW, I enjoy all the racing videos you make. I wish I lived close to mexico to do what you do with my c32.
Maybe you should get your ecu flashed again by LET.
with a 185, high flow cats, intake, and even no tune, the c32 should pull MUCH harder than that. Like i previously stated, with just my intake and code3 pulley and beltwrap kit, pulled 2 cars on an M3 with a full car. that is with no tune and less boost than a 185.

maybe it would be best to get the ECU looked at it again and retuned (just in case it got messedup)
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Originally Posted by alkrstev
Great race kindafast. However, I am a little surprised now. I cant believe that the m3 was side by side with you with your mods, especially the 185 mm pulley. Do you have some cooling issues?
BTW, I enjoy all the racing videos you make. I wish I lived close to mexico to do what you do with my c32.
Maybe you should get your ecu flashed again by LET.
Thanks! I am having no cooling issues.
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Originally Posted by jturkel
Like i previously stated, with just my intake and code3 pulley and beltwrap kit, pulled 2 cars on an M3 with a full car. that is with no tune and less boost than a 185.
I actually find that hard to believe...
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I actually find that hard to believe...
ok.....you want videos? i will get you some. you obviously don't know much about C32s that are modded.....if you pull a car length on a supercharged cobra, then M3s have nothing.....do some searching on the forum
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ok.....you want videos? i will get you some. you obviously don't know much about C32s that are modded.....if you pull a car length on a supercharged cobra, then M3s have nothing.....do some searching on the forum
Well said.

Man, next time when i see my friend with the e46 m3, i will ask to film and race it. My car is stock with extra weight of Quad tips.
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Then why does the OP's video show different?
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Then why does the OP's video show different?
Did you sell the headers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqcN224O_eA
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Originally Posted by kindafast
His is a Stage II....intake, full exhaust (headers), chip(or tune).....only way to get above the 155 speed limiter. just verified it with my buddies with E46s.
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Originally Posted by jturkel
His is a Stage II....intake, full exhaust (headers), chip(or tune).....only way to get above the 155 speed limiter. just verified it with my buddies with E46s.
What a surprise

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His is a Stage II....intake, full exhaust (headers), chip(or tune).....only way to get above the 155 speed limiter. just verified it with my buddies with E46s.

lol I didn't know M3's had " stages "

I have a ****ty K&N that did nothing for me since im NOT TUNED
I don't have headers anymore, they are sitting in my garage, you can look under the hood urself.
I have the stock headers w gutted cats
I have the entire stock mid-pipe, I only have an axle back MUFFLER
And my car ISN'T chipped or tuned, that's why I even told the OP why I have to reset my DME everytime I start the car or I get the CEL for not having cats w out a tune. Ask anyone that knows anything about E46 M3's and how the DME reacts to not having software w no cats.

Since the day I got my car it's been hitting over 155, so I don't know wtf you guys are talking about. I don't know anyone with an M3 that has ever been speed limited to 155.

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Originally Posted by DanoM3
lol I didn't know M3's had " stages "

I have a ****ty K&N that did nothing for me since im NOT TUNED
I don't have headers anymore, they are sitting in my garage, you can look under the hood urself.
I have the stock headers w gutted cats
I have the entire stock mid-pipe, I only have an axle back MUFFLER
And my car ISN'T chipped or tuned, that's why I even told the OP why I have to reset my DME everytime I start the car or I get the CEL for not having cats w out a tune. Ask anyone that knows anything about E46 M3's and how the DME reacts to not having software w no cats.

Since the day I got my car it's been hitting over 155, so I don't know wtf you guys are talking about. I don't know anyone with an M3 that has ever been speed limited to 155.
Dano, it is common knowledge that the E46 is speed limited by the UNTAMPERED ECU to 155 (although it will sometimes show more on the speedo, as the M3 speedos read incredibly high---probably to feed the fragile egos of the purchasers). It is also common knowledge that, when reprogramming, nobody just removes the limiter. Rather, they also bump up the rev limiter and change the ignition timing and A/F mixture to maximize performance.

Don't take my word for it about the 155 limit, search m3forum.

Perhaps the previous owner of your car had the ECU reprogrammed? If you are the original owner then either (1) someone snuck an ECU reprogram in without you knowing, or (2) you are FOS.
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I bought the car with 12,000 miles on it and have had it every day since. I've also taken the car to BMW for every service and have never been denied due to having an aftermarket tune/flash or whatever you are claiming my car has. Since the second I got in my car the day I bought it, it has never seen a day that it didnt redline at least 20 times. I've asked BMW and other indie shops if the car was tuned in the past and both said no. Reason i've asked them is because the car has never been limited to 155. Like I said the day I got it I did over 155 and it has been on my mind ever since. I just recently was @ BMW for a service and they didn't want to touch my car because the DME was saying I had faulty cats and all my o2 sensors were shot. They were saying those parts needed to be fixed first before they could do the service. The car has no cats and the sensors read fine when connected to autologic. Luckily my SA is cool and let me slide. If the car was tuned/chipped/touched by God/ whatever you want to say, the car would not be throwing these codes. Like I said before, since the car ISN'T tuned I carry my code reader in my car and have to delete the codes EVERYTIME before starting if I dont want to see the CEL come on. I don't understand why it's so hard to believe. Im not here to bull**** anyone and have never had that desire to be a bull****ter. The C32 is fast I'll give him that, but as far as saying im a BS'er this and that, it's un-needed. And as far as raising the rev limiter I wouldnt want to do that, as the car is already high strung and redlines @ 8000, I couldn't see myself taking it any higher than that, or see much benefit out of doing so.

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Your M3 goes 170+. In order to do so, it has an ECU tune. You did not know. No big deal.
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It would also take 350+ hp to get to that mark.


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