Jons95c36amg

Actually there is someone on the board forgot his screen name who has a Clk55 with just boltons ran a 12.3@113.

skratch77

heres me and my brother racing when I was stock,I gave him the better lane since a I was on drag radials

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgEjbYalmc

BLKCLK550

nah clk550 and clk55 are slow cars, we have grand mother cruisers, i was told by Improviz. HE found best times for cls55 and posted slowest times for clk lol. thx for your posts, they prove how ignorant he is with his almighty CLS55 /AMG.

Jons95c36amg

112 trap speed is weak. Mustve been hot and humid.

skratch77

no thats real world bud,we have a slow track,not like sac where everyone traps like 3-4mph faster than the rest of the country.

went up there with like 5 e55s and we were all trapping 112-113 that day on that track.

my car was dyno'd a few days before that run and even still had the same gas in the tank.474ftlb 403whp

BLKCLK550

so are you the younger one or older brother?

skratch77

im the older,my car has alot more power now lol,you can see how the taller M/T drags kill the top end also in that run,I got pissed and hot lapped it right after I got my slip and ran in his lane and ran a 12.4 at like 113.6

You cant see it in the vid but I was spinning then hooked and then the stupid traction control bogged ect

BLKCLK550

yeah traction controll sucks, how did it feel losing to younger brother?

Brisk335

No offense but Car and drivers times are pureee BS! Plz dont magazine race.. E55AMGGG04 is down to run the clk550 and clk55 amgs, you guys are gonna get walked pretty well.

I think alot of people who know what is what will tell you that.
I mean they said a C63 can do 0-60mph in 3.9 seconds but a E55 can still beat it, when they themselves say e55 does mid 4's?


0-60mph is nothing, esp from magazines.

I have run clk550 and 55 kompressor cls, The CLS55 is alot faster then the clk550.. from 0-100mph, im talking 2-3 cars on a awesome day for the clk550 lol.

skratch77

Well before we ran I thought I was going to pull a 1.8 60ft and figured I would kill him off the line but ended up with a 2.1 and it was my first time on d/r but right after that run I ran my best time and he still hasnt beaten it lol.

I shut the tc off on the next run,you can see the car bog for no reason at all in the run while he pulls away.

Jons95c36amg

I'm bringing up the mag #s for Improviz sake.

BLKCLK550

+1

BLKCLK550

Stock 335i puts 2-3 cars on clk550?

Jons95c36amg

Stock 135i,335i gets raped by my Clk55. I kept up with a jb3 135i! Thats 80hp over stock!

BLKCLK550

thats what i am asking because i easily put 4-5 cars on stock 09 335i sports coupe and thats stock for stock.

Brisk335

Sorry, wasnt reading thorugh all of it.. Just it has been proved by E55AMGGG04, mthis and myself that magazines, with somewhat of a exception for edmunds, that the way they test there cars are not very real world.

Never tryed a clk550 when my car was stock, nor of course with my new car since im breaking it in.

I pulled easily on a CLK550 when i was tune only with mild boost. I was behind him, he went WOT first then as did i and i was able to come around and pass him without a problem. I was neck and neck with a CLS55AMG it was damn fast, the CLS was a pretty good deal faster than the clk550 i raced. The cls55 race i have on video, the clk550 race i dont..

BLKCLK550

Was the race with clk550 set up or you just followed him ? because i sometimes floor it then let off a bit, unless it was a set up run where both went on 3 honks you can't claim it as a kill. I get passed by camrys i floor then let off and watch them pass me and then they flash hazards. know what i mean ?

i saw the cls video same night it was posted, that car moves so did yours but upo top as speeds vent on 5.5L v8 was gaining hard.

Brisk335

The CLS55 didnt seem to do any better in higher speeds aganist me at all? If anything when i got into my third gear i almost felt as if we would have kept going it, i would have got a small edge on him. but of course im saying that as speculation as we stopped.

No it was not setup, it was a street race. but listening to his exhaust and the way i pulled, he didnt let off, if he let off i would have blew by him.

Someone else raced a clk550 in my car entering a highway, but that was a friend in my car and i wasnt in there, they said they both went WOT, and my car again walked away and around the clk550.

E55AMGGG04 can verify both stories on my part.But then again this isnt what seems to be the issue at hand.
I was just comparing my 2 races aganist a cls55 and clk550, and the cls55 was def. faster comapred to the cls55 anyway you slice it.

Im sure these races will be setup soon once the snow is gone, E55AMGGG04 has put the offer up so w.e. would like to comapre there car to a properly running E55 hit him up

BLKCLK550

Yeah no one is denying the fact that cls 55 amg is faster than a stock clk55 or clk550, the point is it wont blow doors off. My clk550 is not stock anymore so saying cls55 will blow my doors off... but then again some people think 1-2 cars is blowing doors off.

Brisk335

In what form of speed are comparing here a 40 to 120 roll? a 0-100mph which no1 is doing good in this weather or a 60-130mph?

Traps speed for each respective car shows what will happen here.. I wont speculate any further on car lengths until it happens, since i can only compare on my personal runs seperately with each car...

BLKCLK550

how many cars would you have to beat someone by to say "i blew his doors off" ?

Deuuuce

I agree. An LS3 6A Vette would do that on an 85 degree day. Pretty similar performance to a CLS55.

Improviz

I did do research. I did tons of it when I had my CLK55, in fact. That's how I know Car & Driver's 5-60 time for a 208 CLK55 like yours, which FYI was 5.2, not 4.6.

I also did research in terms of knowing that you're cherry picking a freakishly fast 209, of which no other tested example hit those numbers; for example, this 209 CLK55, which C&D tested, didn't come **CLOSE** to the numbers you're claiming for it as routine and normal (we'll do the 209 too, just to be thorough, but here's a teaser):
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 30.5 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 5.0 sec. a tad bit slower than 4.6?

But hey, you want to talk numbers for the 208 CLK55, which is what you've got, by golly, let's "do some research" and roll them ALL out:

Car & Driver:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests
0-60: 5.0
0-100: 12.2
5-60: 5.2 (a far cry from 4.6)
1/4 mi: 13.6 @ 106

Road & Track (2001 road test, their website is screwed up so I had to look it up hard copy):
0-60: 5.3
0-100: 12.4
1/4 mi: 13.7 @ 105.6

Motor Trend:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../features.html
0-60: 5.36
0-90: 10.77
0-100: n/a
1/4 mi: 13.60 @ 104.98

Cab:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...car_price.html
0-60: 5.23
0-100: n/a
1/4 mi: 13.74/104.44

Edmunds.com:
http://www.insideline.com/mercedes-b...clk55-amg.html
0-60: 5.0
0-100: n/a
1/4: 13.48 @ 106.3

Motorweek.com:
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2025.shtml
0-60: 5.2
0-100: n/a
1/4: 13.4 @ 107

So by no means do these numbers, in aggrate, point to a 4.6 second 5-60 run, or anything close to it.

So how about the European press? How did they do in the 208 CLK55?

Well, let's look, shall we?

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/clk55amg1998-1.htm
Test in ams 25/1998
Gewicht 1591 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,9 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,3 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,3 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,4 s
0 - 160 km/h 11,9 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 19,3 s

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/...mgst2000-1.htm
Supertest in sport auto 05/2000
Gewicht 1593 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,9 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,3 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 9,9 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,4 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,6 s
0 - 200 km/h 19,8 s

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/clk55amg2002-1.htm
Test in sport auto 12/2002
Gewicht 1698 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,9 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,3 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,2 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,3 s
0 - 160 km/h 11,6 s
0 - 180 km/h 14,6 s
0 - 200 km/h 18,7 s

Hmm, given that 100 km/h is 62 mph, and 160 is 100 mph, those numbers look pretty close to the American tests!! And THEY don't point to a 4.6 second 5-60 run either.

So, how about the 209 CLK55:
Car & Driver:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 30.5 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...4f58116c18.pdf
0-60: 4.5
0-100: 11.0
5-60: 4.6
1/4 mi: 13.1 @ 109

Motor Trend:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html
0-60: 4.9
1/4 mile: 13.24 @ 107.41

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html
0-60: 4.8
0-100: 11.5
1/4 mi: 13.14 @ 108.07

So there's the data. Most of the 208's ran in the 106-107 range, with a few in the 104-105 range. Same for the 209: most were in the 107-108 range, with the fastest one running the 109 and 4.6 5-60.

But given that there are 9 tests of the 208 CLK55 and none of them ran anywhere close to the fastest 209. So frankly, the data you urged me to "research" IN NO WAY points to a 4.6 sec 5-60 run as being "the norm", even for a 209, and DEFINITELY not for a 208. And taking the one that's the fastest by a large margin and trying to hold this up as the norm is also pretty dumb, as the data show that the norm is not even in this ballpark for a 208.

Keep dreaming, jon...from what I've read, you're a pretty good dreamer. Posting dyno results that a tuner told you were basically suspect, wild kill stories about pulling an E90 M3 up past 130 mph, supercharged Mustangs, etc. etc. etc...

Improviz

Oh, there you go lying again. Firstly, I never said anything of the sort about your car; I'm simply saying you're an idiot if you think it will give a CLS55 "a good race", and we'll find that out soon enough when E55AMG04 blows your doors off.

Secondly, if you've got a test from any of the American mags for the CLK550, by all means post it, as none of them have any such test on their website, which is why I had to go overseas to find one. Apparently they never bothered to test one.

So when are you guys going to run and get this on video?

And when are you going to post puff the magic timeslip of the phony 12.8 run you did that only exists in your mind?

Improviz

Yes, it will. If it's running 0-112.5 in the same amount of time it takes you to get to 100, you'll be buslengths behind it by 130. You're so ignorant about car racing against faster cars, it's just breathtaking.

The only place you'll be 1-2 cars off of a supercharged 55 is in the same place you ran that supposed 12.8 second 1/4 mile: in your wettest of dreams. You run that thing from 40-130, and you'll be 8 plus lengths back.