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Old 01-26-2010, 01:05 AM
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Corvette Z06 vs CL65 AMG *video*

So... went to a car meet in Mexico the other day and stumbled upon a very arrogant CL65 driver that thought he would beat anything out there with 612hp...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo907leWUjs
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lol arrogant people are the best to face rape

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Was the MB racing? It got stepped on every race.... I mean stomped on. That is really embarassing. Great video!
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Originally Posted by kindafast
So... went to a car meet in Mexico the other day and stumbled upon a very arrogant CL65 driver that thought he would beat anything out there with 612hp...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo907leWUjs
Good stuff!!! the cl65 jumped the honks a couple times there & still lost badly, then icing w/demand for a dig!! looked/sounded like he brake boosted launch what a moron! totally spun
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Those Cl65s are over 5k lbs so even with 600+hp it didnt help.
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That guy was an idiot for thinking he had a chance. I toyed with a C6Z06 on the interstate before and still got walked, but not nearly as bad as the CL.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Those Cl65s are over 5k lbs so even with 600+hp it didnt help.
The W215 CL65 weighs in at a svelte 4,654lbs.

It is all about power to weight ratios... stock for stock.. the CL65 has 7.7lbs/HP whereas the Z06 has about 6.2lbs/HP. That is a pretty significant difference.

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That guy was an idiot for thinking he had a chance. I toyed with a C6Z06 on the interstate before and still got walked, but not nearly as bad as the CL.
Maybe poor wording on your part but I'd hope you know a CL65 is far faster than your CLK on the freeway let alone a Z06. If he didn't walk you like you threw on the handbrake then he needs to go to shift-school.

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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
Maybe poor wording on your part but I'd hope you know a CL65 is far faster than your CLK on the freeway let alone a Z06. If he didn't walk you like you threw on the handbrake then he needs to go to shift-school.
Agreed, poor wording on my part. I was just saying that I didn't get walked nearly as bad; it could have been because of speed at launch, what gear we were in, how far he downshifted, or whatever. Obviously the big TT V12 is a beast on the interstate compared to the V8

edit: found a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ67z-8PzUo

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Nothing like 4th gear on the Z06. I miss mine dearly...good kill!
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Originally Posted by vmspionage
Agreed, poor wording on my part. I was just saying that I didn't get walked nearly as bad; it could have been because of speed at launch, what gear we were in, how far he downshifted, or whatever. Obviously the big TT V12 is a beast on the interstate compared to the V8

edit: found a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ67z-8PzUo
I hear you. Thanks for the link. Of course, put the 65 and your CLK through some curves and the roles are reversed as you know first hand.

By the way, next to your link there was a video of a CL65 getting walked hard by a Hamann F430. Don't what the hell they'd done to it but being NA the results were astonishing. I ran dead even stock-stock with an F430 coupe 70-140 a year or so back but it looks they can be tuned something rotten, unless that CL65 had issues.
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The poor old CL certainly got a pounding. But in a straight drag I would have thought that a 65 would beat a CLK63BE, and yet it was mentioned that a member said he was walked but not as bad as the 65.
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The poor old CL certainly got a pounding. But in a straight drag I would have thought that a 65 would beat a CLK63BE, and yet it was mentioned that a member said he was walked but not as bad as the 65.
Please read the entire thread before posting.
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It all comes down to weight, the CL is a very heavy car. Nice Kill
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
The W215 CL65 weighs in at a svelte 4,654lbs.

It is all about power to weight ratios... stock for stock.. the CL65 has 7.7lbs/HP whereas the Z06 has about 6.2lbs/HP. That is a pretty significant difference.

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Oops! I meant almost 5k lbs.
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DUDE@! HE lost worse than I did! haha, that means I would murder him! hahaha!
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Thanks!

I was expecting the CL65 to be a little quicker, but not sure if he downshifted enough times or had the ESP on/off.

Hopefully I run into a tuned 65 some day to level the playing field.

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DUDE@! HE lost worse than I did! haha, that means I would murder him! hahaha!
Your car sounds better too!
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DUDE@! HE lost worse than I did! haha, that means I would murder him! hahaha!


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Sorry dude! don't know what your getting at.
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Originally Posted by sound 8
Sorry dude! don't know what your getting at.
There are too many factors in a street race to use it as a method of comparing a car's performance, especially without identical conditions and drivers.
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Originally Posted by vmspionage
There are too many factors in a street race to use it as a method of comparing a car's performance, especially without identical conditions and drivers.
+1

You can't do what I would call "a race by proxy"...line them up and run them at the same time is the only way to do it.

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Originally Posted by vmspionage
There are too many factors in a street race to use it as a method of comparing a car's performance, especially without identical conditions and drivers.
This is true...but if you agree to the parameters of the race and both drivers are good and well experienced with their cars, I actually see this as probably being the best way to test pure speed of the cars.

On a drag strip, it often comes down to the 60' time. Plus the races don't go into the high speeds.

In a roll-on street race, tire spin and launching skill is taken out of the equation. It's strictly who's car is fastest. As long as both drivers stomp on the pedal at the same time, the end result will be the faster car winning.
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
In a roll-on street race, tire spin and launching skill is taken out of the equation. It's strictly who's car is fastest. As long as both drivers stomp on the pedal at the same time, the end result will be the faster car winning.
Except for shifting... if you forgot that, well, you've been driving a Benz too long!
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
This is true...but if you agree to the parameters of the race and both drivers are good and well experienced with their cars, I actually see this as probably being the best way to test pure speed of the cars.

On a drag strip, it often comes down to the 60' time. Plus the races don't go into the high speeds.

In a roll-on street race, tire spin and launching skill is taken out of the equation. It's strictly who's car is fastest. As long as both drivers stomp on the pedal at the same time, the end result will be the faster car winning.
I am not sure that statement is entirely true. In this colder weather, my car spins like crazy when you hammer the throttle...even above 60mph. The CL65 was endowed with less than ideal rubber in the rear (275s in each corner). A Z06 has 50mm (18+%) more rubber contacting the road surface on each rear tire.

Granted, I do agree that a roll-on race is a better gauge of a car's performance than a standing start.
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