E55 vs WRX (non STI)
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MY decently modified STI can not beat my C63 with a tune. Off the line however my STI takes a full car on my C63. With every shift of the STI though (which is like every 1.5 seconds) the C63 takes a 1/2 car. By 3rd gear in the STI my C63 is nosing past still in 2nd. By the time the C63 hits 3rd the STI is a memory.
Now the E55 or the E63? My STI would beat them both.
The STI is a crazy fun car to drive. I can take a 1.5g turn at like 50MPH. Ive had all 4 wheels off the ground as well. If you want to compare take the E55 and the STI and put them on a Rally track and watch the E55 crash into a tree on the first turn.
Edit: It was probably a debaged STI also. Did it have the big hood scoop? Many STI owners do the giant wing of death delete and remove the STI badge.
Now the E55 or the E63? My STI would beat them both.
The STI is a crazy fun car to drive. I can take a 1.5g turn at like 50MPH. Ive had all 4 wheels off the ground as well. If you want to compare take the E55 and the STI and put them on a Rally track and watch the E55 crash into a tree on the first turn.
Edit: It was probably a debaged STI also. Did it have the big hood scoop? Many STI owners do the giant wing of death delete and remove the STI badge.
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While we have seen some amazing times from the C63 tune only , the E63 will not be stomped on by a tune only C.
You say not worth the gas, when in fact the matchup is highly intriguing and can result in many suprises.
I have seen the stock E63 beat tuned C63 on numerous occassions.
My tuned CLS63 was certainly not victimized by any C63's at Fomoso, I would not be so confident.
The C63 is our champion, highly respected platform, but it will not chew up and spit out the E in tune form only.
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Thats silly.
While we have seen some amazing times from the C63 tune only , the E63 will not be stomped on by a tune only C.
You say not worth the gas, when in fact the matchup is highly intriguing and can result in many suprises.
I have seen the stock E63 beat tuned C63 on numerous occassions.
My tuned CLS63 was certainly not victimized by any C63's at Fomoso, I would not be so confident.
The C63 is our champion, highly respected platform, but it will not chew up and spit out the E in tune form only.
While we have seen some amazing times from the C63 tune only , the E63 will not be stomped on by a tune only C.
You say not worth the gas, when in fact the matchup is highly intriguing and can result in many suprises.
I have seen the stock E63 beat tuned C63 on numerous occassions.
My tuned CLS63 was certainly not victimized by any C63's at Fomoso, I would not be so confident.
The C63 is our champion, highly respected platform, but it will not chew up and spit out the E in tune form only.
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A tune only C63 destroys a stock E63 all day. Sorry dude. Beating up on track noobs doesnt mean the E63 is a close race. It means they dont know how to race the 1/4.
Unless you suck at driving a tuned C63 will beat a stock E63. Take identical drivers with identical skills and the tuned C63 completely walks a stock E63.
I dont even know why this is a discussion, its a common fact.. just ask anyone with a stock E63 on this forum. Hell Ive walked tuned E63's from this forum.
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I repect the E63 and I think you are being a little defensive maybe.
Bruce at TTM has a beast of a E63. He is putting down about 490whp. We race about 5 times and I got him 4 out of 5 tune only in my C63. He was having some tranny troubles though so we are set for a rematch soon!
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Ohh and as far as the CLS63 without a tune. I walked one on the same day about 3 times.... Hes on this forum also... you can ask.
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Um, I have killed a variety of WRXs, STis, Evos, RS-4s, and a whole bunch of other AWD vehicles in my C32 from a dig. There is no reason that a (assuming FI 2003+) E55 would have a problem with a stock or lightly modded one unless there was something wrong with the E55. Your global assessment of "keep your AMG away from STis and EVOs is way off mark.
BTW, your approach of "you freaking moron" followed by "love your car, good job" is not exactly friendly/diplomatic. Comes across as pretty harsh, actually.
BTW, why didn't you get your "10 second" CLK63 into the fray with the E55 and the Subies to bring back dignity to the MBZ brand?? Hell, I take every chance to run my C32 against anyone. My favorites are when I get completely smoked. There is nothing finer than feeling good acceleration in your back while you watch someone with a much faster car passing you like you were parked.
BTW, your approach of "you freaking moron" followed by "love your car, good job" is not exactly friendly/diplomatic. Comes across as pretty harsh, actually.
BTW, why didn't you get your "10 second" CLK63 into the fray with the E55 and the Subies to bring back dignity to the MBZ brand?? Hell, I take every chance to run my C32 against anyone. My favorites are when I get completely smoked. There is nothing finer than feeling good acceleration in your back while you watch someone with a much faster car passing you like you were parked.
I have to agree. My C32 has walked all over WRX STi's both highly modded and near stock (turbo ex & boost control), old ones and newest models, in straight line and on the roadcourse. An E55 is way faster than my car, even bone stock so, if the guy lost, it was cause either he was not trying, had car problems or cannot drive for $h!... But, how hard is it to floor it and go? Probaly just playing with the poor sod. WRX is not a slow car and with mods can hit some serious HP, but is also heavy and about as aerodynamic as a brick. Maybe he was running a serious shot of NOS???
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A lightly modded one would also destroy a C32 on a roadcourse as well.
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i would say that a modded C32 (such as one with my mods) is quicker in a straight line than any STI short of a turbo swap or nitrous. turboback, accessport, intake (not that anything is really gained there)....they don't keep up. but yah, you throw a gt35r with a FMIC, it's over for the 32.
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Yes, they can be insanely fast. My buddy's EVO puts 785 HP to the wheels and runs low tens here in Denver (6,000'). My E55 would get raped...but I have something else to handle these AWD imports...Turbo Hayabusa ![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Here's a video the car doing the 1/4 in 10.2:
http://www.streetfire.net/video/epic...mph_190593.htm
It's a sleeper too...no wing, no ricer stickers so he gets a lot of kills...mostly other Subies and EVO's hehe
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Here's a video the car doing the 1/4 in 10.2:
http://www.streetfire.net/video/epic...mph_190593.htm
It's a sleeper too...no wing, no ricer stickers so he gets a lot of kills...mostly other Subies and EVO's hehe
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Lol, I have about 150 witnesses including about 20 of the Lex SCCA chapter. I did not say that we cannot build a faster WRX and cannot vouce for skills
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If you want to compare take the E55 and the STI and put them on a Rally track and watch the E55 crash into a tree on the first turn.
Edit: It was probably a debaged STI also. Did it have the big hood scoop? Many STI owners do the giant wing of death delete and remove the STI badge.
Edit: It was probably a debaged STI also. Did it have the big hood scoop? Many STI owners do the giant wing of death delete and remove the STI badge.
LOL. Yaaa because that is a totally good way to compare. A car ment for rally v. a luxury perfromance car made for street. Its hard to really compare these 2 cars since there both differant in so many ways. Im guessing as said here it was modded or debadged or the driver was just a poor driver lol. The E55 can do nor to 60 in 4.3 seconds. Im sure if the driver knew what he was doing he could of given the WRX a nice run.
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Not sure what you're trying to say but an STi is probably the best choice in that perfomance category for the road circuit, domineering SCCA T2 until penalized. A C32 couldn't hope to do that.
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LOL. Yaaa because that is a totally good way to compare. A car ment for rally v. a luxury perfromance car made for street. Its hard to really compare these 2 cars since there both differant in so many ways. Im guessing as said here it was modded or debadged or the driver was just a poor driver lol. The E55 can do nor to 60 in 4.3 seconds. Im sure if the driver knew what he was doing he could of given the WRX a nice run.
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I have to agree. My C32 has walked all over WRX STi's both highly modded and near stock (turbo ex & boost control), old ones and newest models, in straight line and on the roadcourse. An E55 is way faster than my car, even bone stock so, if the guy lost, it was cause either he was not trying, had car problems or cannot drive for $h!... But, how hard is it to floor it and go? Probaly just playing with the poor sod. WRX is not a slow car and with mods can hit some serious HP, but is also heavy and about as aerodynamic as a brick. Maybe he was running a serious shot of NOS???
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Why dont we stop dicussing the c's and e's and start talking about how funny it would be to watch an s65 smoke these little sti's. Talk about a car no see's coming until it's infront of you.
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Fail Thread, Ricers get spanked non stop with my E55. Also, up top the fail. Try a 3rd gear dump and pump at 75mph and see 3-5 cars on an STi.
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You can only talk about a kill story for so long. It's better we talk about other cars hypothedically racing wrx's on this thread after it has died down then to start a new with some pointless stuff.